Why four more years?

Ronald Nolette · Dec 10, 2020

Backlit said:
Why do the conservative Christian right want four more years of Trump? To make life easier? To establish righteousness? What's motivating your prayers for Trump? Make America greater?
Or are you pleading with God for four more years to give you time to pray more for your family to enter the kingdom before Jesus comes? Or to pray for the liberals that they may see and understand the gospel before Jesus comes? Or perhaps you recognise you aren't ready to meet Jesus yet? Or your church isn't ready? Maybe we all need more time?

Yes to all!

1 Timothy 2:1-3
King James Version

2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

I am ready to go now, but as long as my recall to heaven is delayed, I would pray to be able to lead a quiet peaceable life. but if the Lord decides for believers in America to undergo real persecution like many of our brethren do- we as His people in this nation are woefully unprepared for that generally speaking.

GTW27 · Dec 10, 2020

Indeed it is true that satan has accomplished much in 2020. But how did he do it? Some times he uses opposites.(another of his devises) In the beginning he said that your eyes will be opened(a temptation), and yet man became blind unless Jesus opens them."I was blind but now I see." So he has done once again in this country. We should be praying The Lords will be done, not left, not right, for that is our own will be done, and that has consequences as you see today, in this country, and on these boards. Irregardless of the side you find yourself standing on, His will will be done on earth as it is in heaven. If perchance this is a test of love of others, and trust in Him, how are we doing?

Addy · Dec 10, 2020

GTW27 said:
Indeed it is true that satan has accomplished much in 2020. But how did he do it? Some times he uses opposites.(another of his devises) In the beginning he said that your eyes will be opened(a temptation), and yet man became blind unless Jesus opens them."I was blind but now I see." So he has done once again in this country. We should be praying The Lords will be done, not left, not right, for that is our own will be done, and that has consequences as you see today, in this country, and on these boards. Irregardless of the side you find yourself standing on, His will will be done on earth as it is in heaven. If perchance this is a test of love of others, and trust in Him, how are we doing?

This is brilliantly written. The Lord's will be done... NOT what Christians decide should be named and claimed.

marks · Dec 10, 2020

Adoration said:
My Dear @Heart2Soul ... I am at peace... I live in peace... and I have learned to stay hidden in the shadow of His Mighty wings... My words are a lament over the state of your nation. Bad enough Christians fight and battle over doctrine... and now we have covid and the election... where even more division has occurred between the children of Christ.... From where I sit... I see that satan has indeed accomplished much in 2020... to further divide the believers. I am grateful to have chosen to simply observe for the most part and pray. There is far too much noise at this time... when there should be stillness... repenting and praying. That is how I see it.... but YES.... God is in control... and I do rejoice in HIM... however... I am still greatly saddened by what I see happening in America.

Thank you so much for your prayers!!

Much love!

TheslightestID · Dec 10, 2020

marks said:
My reasons?

I think under a Trump administration we will have a better economy and more jobs, less taxation and regulation, fewer foreign conflicts (wars), Essentially more freedom and prosperity, because of a president who loves this country.

I think under a Biden administration we will have weaker economy, fewer jobs, more taxation and regulation, more foreign conflicts. Biden intends to rejoin the UN, to re-marry China - did you know Joe Biden wants to share your genetic information with the Chinese government??? Essentially strip us of freedoms, and enslave us, because of a fraudulent president who hates this nation, and the God we believe in.

But why does this matter? God will work within either scenario. In fact, if Biden is inaugurated - I will not say if he wins, because I believe this was a fraudulent election - I believe this tells us we are closer to the end of the age.

But in times of peace and prosperity there is a lot more opportunity to evangelize and fellowship.

And then there's Harris!

Why four more years? Because that's what we voted for!!!

That covers about everything I have to say on this.

With Biden, it's just business as usual, and business as usual isn't nearly enough.

April_Rose · Dec 10, 2020

(To the OP) Hmm,.. why four more years? Well,.. which would you rather have? A free country or a communist one?

Ronald Nolette · Dec 10, 2020

GTW27 said:
Indeed it is true that satan has accomplished much in 2020. But how did he do it? Some times he uses opposites.(another of his devises) In the beginning he said that your eyes will be opened(a temptation), and yet man became blind unless Jesus opens them."I was blind but now I see." So he has done once again in this country. We should be praying The Lords will be done, not left, not right, for that is our own will be done, and that has consequences as you see today, in this country, and on these boards. Irregardless of the side you find yourself standing on, His will will be done on earth as it is in heaven. If perchance this is a test of love of others, and trust in Him, how are we doing?

Very true. But we have to choose if we partake in the privilege we have in voting.

We pray, we wartch and see. Trump appears to be teh lesser of two evils.

But it is true, no one gets elected without God allowing it!

GTW27 · Dec 10, 2020

And when one who comes who is sent from the enemy and appointed by The lord to a rebellious people, he will come as one on the side of Christians. He will give you your Christian values but yet he himself has none. He will come with the appearance of a lamb and yet speak like a dragon. Little by little he will exult himself and what he does above all things. And people will fall for his words. And they will follow him where ever he leads. He is one who serves the god of gold and silver and will bow his knee to no one, for in his mind his people have exalted him to be king. Him and him alone.

And he will divide the land, us and them, and them and us. And yet The Lord clearly has said, "a kingdom divided will not stand."

Taken · Dec 10, 2020

Adoration said:
My Dear @Heart2Soul ... I am at peace... I live in peace... and I have learned to stay hidden in the shadow of His Mighty wings... My words are a lament over the state of your nation. Bad enough Christians fight and battle over doctrine... and now we have covid and the election... where even more division has occurred between the children of Christ.... From where I sit... I see that satan has indeed accomplished much in 2020... to further divide the believers. I am grateful to have chosen to simply observe for the most part and pray. There is far too much noise at this time... when there should be stillness... repenting and praying. That is how I see it.... but YES.... God is in control... and I do rejoice in HIM... however... I am still greatly saddened by what I see happening in America.

I'm greatly pleased at what Trump has accomplished....and his Generosity.

What you see here is the smidgen worst of the worst that can be bought for peanuts...and highlighted 24-7 on bought networks...
and the uncovering of (Long over due and called for ) Corrupt Politicos "glued" by Pseudo "entitlement" to the People's honored seats and Offices.

If one wants to get in on a ridiculous street tangle ...any Large Democrat run city is the place to stage it...just as has repeatedly been highlighted on Media outlets.

^ That is Not the People at Large.

Glory to God,
Taken

Brakelite · Dec 10, 2020

marks said:
I think under a Trump administration we will have a better economy and more jobs, less taxation and regulation, fewer foreign conflicts (wars), Essentially more freedom and prosperity, because of a president who loves this country.

I think under a Biden administration we will have weaker economy, fewer jobs, more taxation and regulation, more foreign conflicts. Biden intends to rejoin the UN, to re-marry China - did you know Joe Biden wants to share your genetic information with the Chinese government??? Essentially strip us of freedoms, and enslave us, because of a fraudulent president

I agree with this and think an entirely valid reason for voting anyone into office. I stopped at the reasons you think Biden a fraud. Not so sure I want to pass judgement on something I have no knowledge of.

marks said:
But why does this matter? God will work within either scenario.

Yes, but God is limited by His own righteousness and holiness. Satan has no such scruples and his agents are using both sides to implement their agenda methinks. At this stage of world history, and I shall prophetically, I agree that it matters not in the long run... But think four more years may offer the church a small window of opportunity.

marks said:
And then there's Harris!

The elephant in the room

dev553344 · Dec 10, 2020

Backlit said:
Why do the conservative Christian right want four more years of Trump? To make life easier? To establish righteousness? What's motivating your prayers for Trump? Make America greater?
Or are you pleading with God for four more years to give you time to pray more for your family to enter the kingdom before Jesus comes? Or to pray for the liberals that they may see and understand the gospel before Jesus comes? Or perhaps you recognise you aren't ready to meet Jesus yet? Or your church isn't ready? Maybe we all need more time?

My relative was a nurse and described abortion horrors of babies being mutilated and killed aware of their suffering and death. They say babies do not suffer, but they do in abortions.

Why vote for abortion pro people or socialism to overrun the USA?

Addy · Dec 11, 2020

Taken said:
I'm greatly pleased at what Trump has accomplished....and his Generosity.

What you see here is the smidgen worst of the worst that can be bought for peanuts...and highlighted 24-7 on bought networks...
and the uncovering of (Long over due and called for ) Corrupt Politicos "glued" by Pseudo "entitlement" to the People's honored seats and Offices.

If one wants to get in on a ridiculous street tangle ...any Large Democrat run city is the place to stage it...just as has repeatedly been highlighted on Media outlets.

^ That is Not the People at Large.

Glory to God,
Taken

My take on what is happening does not match what many are seeing.. .believing and feeling... but I am waiting and praying for God's will to be fulfilled.

Brakelite · Dec 11, 2020

Mayflower said:
Ug. Someone asked me if I follow Trump or Jesus. Who I choose for president has nothing to do with who my Savior is and who I ultimately follow. President Trump has better policy. If he goes against his party, then he is removed from office. 4 more years mean more for pro life, pro gun rights, military and law enforcement, border walls, and the economy (if Congress works with him). It means more for Israel as well, which I believe a country that supports and helps Israel is blessed. 4 more years means a better chance I don't have to have my taxes going to fund abortions. So is this Jesus and Barabbas? No. Jesus Christ was crucified for our sins. No good is coming out of this election no matter who gets office. The country is deeply divided and both sides have lost, because both sides have been ugly. I personally believe many Christian's believe the prophets who have said Trump will win a second term. I believe there has been mass fraud, but I only just wish Trump would get 4 more years. But God can use a Democrat too. Lol. I don't hate Biden. And I do believe a revival will come, because that is who my God is.

I think you would be better off first justifying why Israel deserves or warrants the assistance of the United States. I think we tend to put our blinkers on rather than consider the obvious fact of history that freemasonry had an immense role in the establishment of both Nations. That both are today so inexorably linked is I think more cause for concern than celebration. Unless of course you believe Israel has a major part to play in prophecy but needs the help of the USA to fulfill it. Zionism being practised by a nation purported to have embedded in us constitution a separation of church and state but so strongly financially, spiritually, and emotionally supports Israel is highly debatable as a cause that meets with the approval of the constitution, n not to mention God Himself.

Addy · Dec 11, 2020

GTW27 said:
And when one who comes who is sent from the enemy and appointed by The lord to a rebellious people, he will come as one on the side of Christians. He will give you your Christian values but yet he himself has none. He will come with the appearance of a lamb and yet speak like a dragon. Little by little he will exult himself and what he does above all things. And people will fall for his words. And they will follow him where ever he leads. He is one who serves the god of gold and silver and will bow his knee to no one, for in his mind his people have exalted him to be king. Him and him alone.

And he will divide the land, us and them, and them and us. And yet The Lord clearly has said, "a kingdom divided will not stand."

Sadly... this is also how I see things.

Brakelite · Dec 11, 2020

amadeus said:
Consider why King Hezekiah, when told to get ready because would die soon, prayed for time and was given 15 more years [II Kings 20]. Before that he had pleased God, but within the 15 years, we see him make perhaps his biggest mistake...

Consider here the words of Paul:

"Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content." Phil 4:11

And of Jesus:

"But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof." Matt 6:33-34

Indeed. A very apt parallel between king Hezekiah and our day. Then, he had literal Babylon to stand before in they integrity of his faith and yes, he showed them everything. The Babylonians, being astrologists and astronomers, were more interested in why the sun stood still. What an opportunity for Hezekiah to testify to the power of the Hebrew God... Who knows how different history may have been.
And today? Spiritual Babylon, the mother of harlots is on the rise... What are our faith leaders doing to testify of God's power and goodness?

Brakelite · Dec 11, 2020

Devin Wintch said:
My relative was a nurse and described abortion horrors of babies being mutilated and killed aware of their suffering and death. They say babies do not suffer, but they do in abortions.

Why vote for abortion pro people or socialism to overrun the USA?

agree.

Brakelite · Dec 11, 2020

Heart2Soul said:
Yes it is sad...however there is a movement growing out of it....Christian's are beginning to rise up and getting stirred up to pray like never before.
And God had to bring to light all the corruption hidden in darkness to expose just how powerful government and big tech had become. I believe His Mercy is what will continue to keep America from falling.
At least until it is time for the Antichrist to come into power.
But before he does we are about to experience the greatest outpouring of His Spirit in the history of mankind and the Great Awakening is happening even now.
God Bless!

You are talking about a spiritual awakening to a secular business. You speak of big tech, corporations, corruption etc and I wholeheartedly agree with you, but I suspect you and many others alike are not making the connections between the spiritual dangers that a conglomerate of secular business and tech pose and that spiritual power that is so quickly becoming the greatest threat, and which so completely fulfills they prophetic narrative. First, have a read of this...Big companies join Vatican-affiliated council pledging inclusive capitalism

Then have a listen to this. The video below may not agree with everyone's worldview. In fact some may even be offended by what the speakers reveal. But I believe people need to step back from their preconceived narratives and opinions and seriously consider what is actually taking place now, rather than using their imagination and clairvoyance skills regarding tomorrow. Four more years? I wonder, when considering what is happening in the world of prophecy, if we have that long

Brakelite · Dec 11, 2020

April_Rose said:
(To the OP) Hmm,.. why four more years? Well,.. which would you rather have? A free country or a communist one?

There are deeper agendas being played out in world politics and religion than the superficial choice between communism and whatever else people are promising.

Mayflower · Dec 11, 2020

Backlit said:
I think you would be better off first justifying why Israel deserves or warrants the assistance of the United States. I think we tend to put our blinkers on rather than consider the obvious fact of history that freemasonry had an immense role in the establishment of both Nations. That both are today so inexorably linked is I think more cause for concern than celebration. Unless of course you believe Israel has a major part to play in prophecy but needs the help of the USA to fulfill it. Zionism being practised by a nation purported to have embedded in us constitution a separation of church and state but so strongly financially, spiritually, and emotionally supports Israel is highly debatable as a cause that meets with the approval of the constitution, n not to mention God Himself.

Not that Israel needs the U.S.A to fulfill prophecy. But it is cool to be part of it. Israel is historical from Jesus time, also. A blessed people. And I have family who are Jewish also. I highly respect Israel and President Trump's support of it as well.

Taken · Dec 11, 2020

Backlit said:
Why do the conservative Christian right want four more years of Trump?

His Results. His Intent.

To make life easier?

LIFE IN this World IS easier when there IS work to do. Trump IS a pathfinder for work to do.

To establish righteousness?

God already established Righteousness.

What's motivating your prayers for Trump?

Same that I PRAY For any other man; to do Gods will.

Make America greater?

Greater? No. Great Again, Blessed By God?
You betcha!

Or are you pleading with God for four more years to give you time to pray more for your family to enter the kingdom before Jesus comes?

No. I don't plead to God for who He has already accomplished.

Or to pray for the liberals that they may see and understand the gospel before Jesus comes?

If liberal defines one outside of God, as you imply, I PRAY Gods will be done.

Or perhaps you recognise you aren't ready to meet Jesus yet?

I'm ready, but it had nothing to do with Trump.

Or your church isn't ready?

My Membership is in Christ's Church and all Members Are Ready.
However the Church is Not Yet full, so we wait until they arrive.

Maybe we all need more time?

Time "was" established for mankind's advantage. Some not yet Born, have advantage afforded them also.

God Bless America,
Taken

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