Faith : Update

quietthinker · Dec 11, 2020

Behold said:
Readers ....

Let me give you a quick lesson on : THE Faith that God accepts.

Let say you are in my class.
and you ask.....".so, whose faith does God accept.""""

Well, its more then just yours,= in this context......

= "Jesus. the AUTHOR and FINISHER of your faith".....

Now.....

Do you see......'"""FINISHER""""?

Finisher of what, Reader?

=YOUR FAITH.

"'"""so what are you showing me,?""

IM showing you that :

Philippians 1:6, says that """"God who started salvation is all the born again, will HIMSELF be faithful to complete it".""""

"complete what, ?/?????

= Your SALVATiON..

"but i thought I was to complete it"....>"thats what the heretic who taught me led me to believe"..

I know.

See, a deceived heretic told you that "working out your salvation" means to complete it, and so, you were lied to, again.
Listen, only God can complete the GIFT He gives....>"the gift of Righteousness".."the GIFT of Salvation".

Now..... Salvation is not your faith.... Salvation is Jesus's Blood, and THAT is GOD's Blood, and THAT is why it starts your salvation and completes it, for you. Philippians 1:6

"but what about my faith"...

well, What about it?

"dont i have to hang onto my faith, and grit my teeth, and endure to the end, so that my Faith can keep me saved as long as its not DEAD"?

No

"Really?

Yes.

See, God is the Savior......not your faith.
Its "GRACE THROUGH Faith".....>Not Faith as GRACE.

For example, if you were at the Pearly Gates, and Jude was there, and He said....>"what are you trusting in to get you past me, and into Heaven".

And you said...>"my Faith"......

Jude would say...."Depart fool".

But if you said....>"im only trusting in CHRIST to save me and keep me saved"...... Then Jude says......."that's right, you are saved and kept saved by Christ, who is the "author and finisher of your faith".........and not you. Hebrews 12:2

"enter into the Joy of the Lord".

I've met quiet a few who assume to be master mechanics.....they dissemble and reassemble infinitum.....so often in fact I wonder whether the vehicle actually gets to run on the road.

Time has shown me it was the children, the ones dismissed, had a handle on what matters but I never saw them in the so called workshop.......strange, don't you think?

Behold · Dec 11, 2020

quietthinker said:
I've met quiet a few who assume to be master mechanics.....they dissemble and reassemble infinitum.....so often in fact I wonder whether the vehicle actually gets to run on the road.
Time has shown me it was the children, the ones dismissed, had a handle on what matters but I never saw them in the so called workshop.......strange, don't you think?

I think of all my Forum Threads as a Class where people come to sit for a while and think about the Light im sharing.

I think of every person i meet as a canvas that God wants to paint into a beautiful trophy of His Amazing Grace.

I have dealt with "souls" on many Continents.
I have preached Jesus to the French, to the Russians, to the Taiwanese, To the Israeli's, and more.

My deceased Dad, (not my Father, as my Father is God), but my Dad, was a Master Mechanic for a Global Company named "Monsanto".
My older Bro, deceased, was a Pastor... His name is Lavon.
My younger Brother, is a missionary and head Administrator for this group. His name is Robert.

Classification Protestant
Theology Reformed evangelical
Governance Presbyterian

I myself am a Evangelist - Teacher, Musician/Artist. and my name is Larry.
Im Seminary Trained, and that includes training in manuscript evidence.

None of us that i listed are worthy of our Calling., and certainly we will tell you so.
I just did...
I was born again in 1977, and called to be an Evangelist and Teacher in 1986, and was not following God at the time, and could have not cared less.
I was not in church when i was called, but that didnt stop my Father.

Im not the same person as i was when He called me.

That's why im here.

quietthinker · Dec 11, 2020

Behold said:
I think of all my Forum Threads as a Class where people come to sit for a while and think about the Light im sharing.

I think of every person i meet as a canvas that God wants to paint into a beautiful trophy of His Amazing Grace.

I have dealt with "souls" on many Continents.
I have preached Jesus to the French, to the Russians, to the Taiwanese, To the Israeli's, and more.

My deceased Dad, (not my Father, as my Father is God), but my Dad, was a Master Mechanic for a Global Company named "Monsanto".
My older Bro, deceased, was a Pastor... His name is Lavon.
My younger Brother, is a missionary and head Administrator for this group. His name is Robert.

Classification Protestant
Theology Reformed evangelical
Governance Presbyterian

I myself am a Evangelist - Teacher, Musician/Artist. and my name is Larry.
Im Seminary Trained, and that includes training in manuscript evidence.

None of us that i listed are worthy of our Calling., and certainly we will tell you so.
I just did...
I was born again in 1977, and called to be an Evangelist and Teacher in 1986, and was not following God at the time, and could have not cared less.
I was not in church when i was called, but that didnt stop my Father.

Im not the same person as i was when He called me.

That's why im here.

Interesting Larry ....what does stand out however is that most who consider themselves 'master mechanics' have similar output.

Gideons300 · Dec 11, 2020

Behold said:
God help forums and churches recover from the damage that false teachers have caused.....for so many decades.
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Departing from the faith, is a very specific thing.
Its this.....
= everyone who is fallen from Grace, who is teaching that you can lose your salvation, or believes this, has left the real Faith.
Everyone who is teaching a Gospel of Works, has left the faith.
Everyone who teaches that water baptism saves you, has left the faith.
Everyone who teaches you that unless you speak in Tongues, you are not "filled with the spirit", has left the faith.
Everyone who teaches that God causes Evil, and causes some to go to hell, having no free will to Choose Christ by Faith, ...these teachers have left the faith.

Reader....How many of those do you think are members of this forum? Or are members of your Church? Members of your Family?
Or are members of every other Christian forum, or regarding all denominations. ?

See, the wrong idea of "leaving faith", is this.....>"well, Donnie and His wife use to be in church all the time, but now they never go and i think i saw Donnie going into a Gay Bar wearing a pink shirt "..

So, that is not the correct understanding of """leaving faith"""....as DONNIE, is a BACKSLIDER...who may still have correct understanding of God's Grace, while the person who is judging Donnie, has probably left the faith.
That's interesting, isn't it. ?

So, to "leave the faith"....is to no longer believe right about it. That is how you leave it.
You leave it, by going back to the Law, or as Paul teaches "falling from Grace".
Its falling from Grace, departing from the correct understanding of GRACE and "going BACK into the FLESH", of ...>"here is what i am NOW doing to try to keep myself saved",
= that is how you Leave the faith.

""""Left the faith""""", is to fail this test im going to give you Reader.

Here is the Test..

If you know that you are going to die, in 30 seconds..........
You are DEAD 30 seconds from now.
Are you ready to meet God?
You now have 20 seconds to breath, and still have a heart beat.

So, what are you trusting to get you into heaven.. ????

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If you have fallen from Grace......if you have left the faith........you did not think instantly......>"ONLY JESUS".

Instead you sort of felt oddly ......>UMMMMMMMMM, well..........and maybe you had a vision of all those sins, or all that stuff you have done.....

But you did not have a calm and instant revelation that ALL you believe will get you into heaven, and keep you out of hell, is "ONLY JESUS">

Now, no need to post your position, and play a game.
God just saw the Truth, and now you know it.

So, did that test sting you?
If it didn't, it might later tonight or tomorrow......and if that happens, you have some wrong believing to get out of......asap.

So, THAT is who has "left the faith".

= All SELF SAVERS

I am confused. You are a strong adherent of OSAS, yes? That no sin, past, present or future, cqn separate you from God and your reward in Heaven.

So, a man gets saved, follows hard after the Lord, but eventually is convinced that your faith must continue to the end to be saved. To you this is a sin, right? But it is impossible for such a one to leave the faith, or to be of the devil. No matter how many people He leads to believe that enduring to the end is necessary, even this sin is absolved. Right?

Do you see the corner you are painting yourself in? For if you say, they have departed from the faith, then you are saying they can indeed lose your salvation.

And if, on the other hand, if you say "Well, they were never saved to begin with, then if that be the case, then no one can know for sure they are saved and therefore must adhere to your belief that 'grace plus nothing' saves them.

Do you see that on making that statement, you are making that very thing as something necessary to hold onto to be saved. You cannot have it both ways.

blessings,

Gideon

Behold · Dec 12, 2020

Gideons300 said:
I am confused. You are a strong adherent of OSAS, yes? That no sin, past, present or future, cqn separate you from God and your reward in Heaven.

So, a man gets saved, follows hard after the Lord, but eventually is convinced that your faith must continue to the end to be saved. To you this is a sin, right?

Yes, i agree with you, that you are definitely confused.
So, let me try to help you out of that... confusion.

You believe this.....>""""""a man gets saved, follows hard after the Lord, but eventually is convinced that your faith must continue to the end to be saved.?""""

So, your point is......that Man, is supposed to be doing that. This "man" is supposed to be trying to keep themselves saved......and that thinking confirms the deception you are under. That is the deceived understanding of a self saver who has fallen from Grace, and is convinced that they, by self effort, continue their salvation by "enduring", or "confessing" or "repenting" or whatever works they can try to do that have replaced the Cross as their redemption.

You even have the wrong understanding of OSAS, as do all who are fallen from Grace as proven by the FACT = that they are trying by lifestyle to keep their salvation.
So, let me help you to understand the true meaning of OSAS.

Its this, Gideion300,

OSAS simply means.....>"once Born again, ALWAYS born again".

Gideons300 · Dec 12, 2020

Behold said:
Yes, i agree with you, that you are definitely confused.
So, let me try to help you out of that... confusion.

You believe this.....>""""""a man gets saved, follows hard after the Lord, but eventually is convinced that your faith must continue to the end to be saved.?""""

So, your point is......that Man, is supposed to be doing that. This "man" is supposed to be trying to keep themselves saved......and that thinking confirms the deception you are under. That is the deceived understanding of a self saver who has fallen from Grace, and is convinced that they, by self effort, continue their salvation by "enduring", or "confessing" or "repenting" or whatever works they can try to do that have replaced the Cross as their redemption.

You even have the wrong understanding of OSAS, as do all who are fallen from Grace as proven by the FACT = that they are trying by lifestyle to keep their salvation.
So, let me help you to understand the true meaning of OSAS.

Its this, Gideion300,

OSAS simply means.....>"once Born again, ALWAYS born again".

LOL, great dodge. Now, if you do not want to answer the question, I totally get it. This was a hypothetical question to you, one for which you have no answer as it shows the dancing on both sides of the line without having to explain your total inconsistencies of your "take".

I can accept your belief in OSAS or in your words OBAABA. But from this vantage point, you cast judgement and harsh accusations of heretic and false brother for any who do not agree completely with you.

You yourself have said in past posts that a man can get saved, and later on become a child abuser and murderer and when I asked you if he was still saved, you stated "Absolutely". Nothing can change his status as born again.

Yet, in the case of a man who comes to believe that it is he to endure to the end who is saved, because, well, the Bible actually tells us so, this man will split hell wide open??

Amazing. Do you actually see how crazy and contradictory thst sounds?

Gids

Behold · Dec 12, 2020

Gideons300 said:
LOL, great dodge.

Gids

Ok, its time....

So, Listen carefully Gideon300.

The Devil knows what i am to this forum, and why im here and what im accomplishing.
You realized it also...
So, you would like to use my credibility to jump start what you've been straining at the straps to get going for a while here, on this Forum, of which ive informed a Mod all about it, including exactly what you will say...
Keep that in mind.

So, all this is good, because in the months ive been here, ive been teaching relentlessly 2 topics.

1.) Right Believing
2.) How to spot a heretic.. How To Discern this ....

So, what you want to do is begin your pronouncement that is just burning inside you,... to tell these People and this Forum that God Himself gave you a personal visitation.
God... The Father.
Not an Angel, and not Mary, and not a inner voice.
But GOD, The Father, left His Throne, just for you, and VISTED You to anoint you as His end times "Prophet", who has a message of total condemnation and coming judgment for all the born again.

So, lets let you get going with this, as this is why you are on this Forum, or are found on any Christian forum, and are currently on my Thread.

And remember, i know what you have Threaded about this, so, now is not the time to revise it. (dodge).
Believe me.

Lets hear it, so that these people can see for themselves...
And if you need to make the pronouncement on your own Thread, then i'll see you there.

Behold · Dec 12, 2020

quietthinker said:
Interesting Larry ....what does stand out however is that most who consider themselves 'master mechanics' have similar output.

You should try to invest more into a christian forum than opinion laced false innuendo.

Why dont you write a Thread today or soon, , that is invested in showing the believers here what must be your considerable skill related to expounding NT verses.
If you to that, i'd be inclined to join you.

Oseas · Dec 12, 2020

I took a look at the testimonials of this topic, you cast from your own self a lot of words "as a flood" on this topic that you opened, and I realized that you only confused some people, others refuted your artificially composed theories, others doubted your preaching, and they consider your messages are simply hollow and empty, as mere sowing of chaff typical of demons, and so on.

The subject is very interesting: Faith - "update", but you did not said still, according Scriptures, even through the "flood" of your words, what FAITH is. What prevails is the Word of God. The Word is God, understand?

JesusLovesYou · Dec 12, 2020

Behold said:
Readers ....

Let me give you a quick lesson on : THE Faith that God accepts.

Let say you are in my class.
and you ask.....".so, whose faith does God accept.""""

Well, its more then just yours,= in this context......

= "Jesus. the AUTHOR and FINISHER of your faith".....

Now.....

Do you see......'"""FINISHER""""?

Finisher of what, Reader?

=YOUR FAITH.

"'"""so what are you showing me,?""

IM showing you that :

Philippians 1:6, says that """"God who started salvation is all the born again, will HIMSELF be faithful to complete it".""""

"complete what, ?/?????

= Your SALVATiON..

"but i thought I was to complete it"....>"thats what the heretic who taught me led me to believe"..

I know.

See, a deceived heretic told you that "working out your salvation" means to complete it, and so, you were lied to, again.
Listen, only God can complete the GIFT He gives....>"the gift of Righteousness".."the GIFT of Salvation".

Now..... Salvation is not your faith.... Salvation is Jesus's Blood, and THAT is GOD's Blood, and THAT is why it starts your salvation and completes it, for you. Philippians 1:6

"but what about my faith"...

well, What about it?

"dont i have to hang onto my faith, and grit my teeth, and endure to the end, so that my Faith can keep me saved as long as its not DEAD"?

No

"Really?

Yes.

See, God is the Savior......not your faith.
Its "GRACE THROUGH Faith".....>Not Faith as GRACE.

For example, if you were at the Pearly Gates, and Jude was there, and He said....>"what are you trusting in to get you past me, and into Heaven".

And you said...>"my Faith"......

Jude would say...."Depart fool".

But if you said....>"im only trusting in CHRIST to save me and keep me saved"...... Then Jude says......."that's right, you are saved and kept saved by Christ, who is the "author and finisher of your faith".........and not you. Hebrews 12:2

"enter into the Joy of the Lord".

It is not possible to separate faith and grace, and just concentrate on one or the other. If we are saved by grace through faith, than it is important what one puts his faith in. Otherwise, there is no grace. First, one believes, and because of the faith in Jesus, he is saved by the grace of God. And what one believes will be seen clearly in the life of that person. Faith is the means by which one gets to grace, and grace teaches us how to live and what real faith in God is.

Behold · Dec 12, 2020

JesusLovesYou said:
It is not possible to separate faith and grace, and just concentrate on one or the other. If we are saved by grace through faith, than it is important what one puts his faith in. Otherwise, there is no grace. First, one believes, and because of the faith in Jesus, he is saved by the grace of God. And what one believes will be seen clearly in the life of that person. Faith is the means by which one gets to grace, and grace teaches us how to live and what real faith in God is.

Well, lets talk about that, Jesuslovesyou.

First .......there is the faith that God accepts to give you the new birth.
That is a one time, acceptance, proven to be so, as the result is that a person is BORN AGAIN, = ONCE.

Then, there is the discipleship Faith, or "walking the walk", or "dont let your faith become DEAD", or... "working out your salvation".
That is a different faith, as this one is subsequent to the Faith that God accepted as "faith is counted as Righteousness".
Follow me?
So..
in that context....

1. Real faith, operates as DAILY right believing, as a part of Discipleship.
Deceived faith, operates as works, and self effort, that is the enemy of the Cross and a failed Discipleship.
The Born again, can be both.
One of the mistakes a believer makes, is to confuse trying to be good with real faith.
Real faith, produces right living, because real faith, exists as Right Believing.
If you believe wrong, you live wrong, .. your Christianity is a fail...>Its a sinning and confessing, trap.
If you believe right, then you live right, and your Christianity exists as empowered by God's Grace.

Truther · Dec 12, 2020

Behold said:
It could be said that there is a lot less faith in God than this world needs.
WE are in black days, on this earth.
God is going to cut it short, but black days are here.

This election FIASCO that has happened in America, where the God hating and Christ denying Dem-Socialists and their conspiratorial Media, including social media, have hidden truth, bent truth, and remodeled it, so that Kamala, can become President after Biden finds his resting place, is an amazing thing to have witnessed, that is still happening.

The Devil is the "prince of the Power of the Air"....>and this can be interpreted as the AIRWAVES...
And in the USA, the Airwaves, have become so Satanically Corrupted, that Truth can't be found in the Popular Media Outlets.

They have "Fox" news, that use to be a channel that tried to push back against the LEFT, but now even Fox News, is undone.

There is "NewsMax" which is the only Legit Cable News that is putting out the reality.

IVe taught for many years that "as America goes, so goes the rest of the world".

When She is done the world is done.

And she's done.

Now Start looking at the middle east and keep your eyes on Israel, as Christ rejecting lives on this planet, are about to BE changed a lot more then just wearing a mask.

Trump's commission by God was only to MJGA(make Jerusalem great again).

He has fulfilled Zech 12:1-3 unwittingly.

MAGA was never a last days event, rather globalism and the new World Order.

It took an unabashed outsider to make MJGA happen.

Oseas · Dec 12, 2020

Behold said:
1. Real faith, operates as DAILY right believing, as a part of Discipleship.
Deceived faith, operates as works, and self effort, that is the enemy of the Cross and a failed Discipleship.
The Born again, can be both.

Behold, Scriptures explain Scriptures, why do you preach your own conceptions, and opinions, and conjectures, and suppositions, and theories you invented, instead to preach the Word of God - the Word is God, understand?

You said but did not cite Scriptures, why? You said a "Deceived faith, operates as works, and self effort, that is the enemy of the Cross and a failed Discipleship", and the readers here are seeing that the hood fits exactly on your head, what you are doing with your "deceived faith" here it is exactly what you have just written above according that deceiver spirit that worked through you.

What does the Word of God say? James 2:v.13-20

But will you know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
What does it profit, my brethren, though a man say he has faith, and have not works? can faith save him? So, faith, if it has not works, is dead, being alone. You have faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. - James 2:v.13-20

What matters is the Word of God. The Word is God, understand? In other words, what prevails is the Word of God, not human opinions, and conjectures, and presumptions, suppositions, and son on.

Where is your advantage?
Do you believe that there is one God? you do well: the devils-the demons- also believe, and tremble. Yeah, the demons also believe, yes: 2 Cor. 11:v.13-15
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers - Ministers of the Devil - also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. -that is hell's fire, for ever -

quietthinker · Dec 12, 2020

Behold said:
You should try to invest more into a christian forum than opinion laced false innuendo.

Why dont you write a Thread today or soon, , that is invested in showing the believers here what must be your considerable skill related to expounding NT verses.
If you to that, i'd be inclined to join you.

I should, I should, I should......Ahhhhh.....there are observations and then there are folk telling others......telling them what they should believe.....or should do. Mocking commonly goes hand in hand with the 'shoulds'.....a back door way of diminishing the other while elevating self.

justbyfaith · Dec 12, 2020

Behold said:
That is the deceived understanding of a self saver who has fallen from Grace, and is convinced that they, by self effort, continue their salvation by "enduring", or "confessing" or "repenting" or whatever works they can try to do that have replaced the Cross as their redemption.

Enduring, confessing, and repenting are all things that, biblically, a believer is supposed to do.

TheslightestID · Dec 12, 2020

Behold said:
Readers ....

Let me give you a quick lesson on : THE Faith that God accepts.

Let say you are in my class.
and you ask.....".so, whose faith does God accept.""""

Well, its more then just yours,= in this context......

= "Jesus. the AUTHOR and FINISHER of your faith".....

Now.....

Do you see......'"""FINISHER""""?

Finisher of what, Reader?

=YOUR FAITH.

"'"""so what are you showing me,?""

IM showing you that :

Philippians 1:6, says that """"God who started salvation is all the born again, will HIMSELF be faithful to complete it".""""

"complete what, ?/?????

= Your SALVATiON..

"but i thought I was to complete it"....>"thats what the heretic who taught me led me to believe"..

I know.

See, a deceived heretic told you that "working out your salvation" means to complete it, and so, you were lied to, again.
Listen, only God can complete the GIFT He gives....>"the gift of Righteousness".."the GIFT of Salvation".

Now..... Salvation is not your faith.... Salvation is Jesus's Blood, and THAT is GOD's Blood, and THAT is why it starts your salvation and completes it, for you. Philippians 1:6

"but what about my faith"...

well, What about it?

"dont i have to hang onto my faith, and grit my teeth, and endure to the end, so that my Faith can keep me saved as long as its not DEAD"?

No

"Really?

Yes.

See, God is the Savior......not your faith.
Its "GRACE THROUGH Faith".....>Not Faith as GRACE.

For example, if you were at the Pearly Gates, and Jude was there, and He said....>"what are you trusting in to get you past me, and into Heaven".

And you said...>"my Faith"......

Jude would say...."Depart fool".

But if you said....>"im only trusting in CHRIST to save me and keep me saved"...... Then Jude says......."that's right, you are saved and kept saved by Christ, who is the "author and finisher of your faith".........and not you. Hebrews 12:2

"enter into the Joy of the Lord".

Are you saying one can start his salvation, and then do evil, and not do good, yet Christ will still "finish" their salvation?

TheslightestID · Dec 12, 2020

Behold said:
Everyone who is teaching a Gospel of Works, has left the faith.

Do you all see the deception there? Actually it goes further than that to all out untruth. Who has ever seen anyone here teach a gospel of works? They, in reality, teach a gospel of faith and works, which is biblical:

James 2:24 - Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

See, deception is the only way to make their false OSAS doctrine work, keep an eye on them and you will see what I mean.

justbyfaith · Dec 13, 2020

Salvation is by grace through faith and that not of ourselves; it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast (Ephesians 2:8-9).

Romans 4:1-8 also, specifically tells us that we are justified apart from works (especially Romans 4:5-6).

Another is Titus 3:4-7 (especially Titus 3:5).

And another is Romans 11:5-6.

When there is real salvation, works follow; because there has been regeneration and renewal in that person's life: the love of the Lord has been shed abroad in their heart (Romans 5:5). And such a love is not impractical (1 John 3:17-18).

However, salvation in itself is by faith alone.

If I give $5 to the poor, or even $5,000,000, that is not going to produce in me a born again, regenerated and renewed heart. That can only come about by simple faith in Jesus and what He did for you on the Cross.

'nuff said!

Behold · Dec 13, 2020

justbyfaith said:
Enduring, confessing, and repenting are all things that, biblically, a believer is supposed to do.

What you are describing...is what you do if you have not understood your Salvation and are not walking in the Light.

Paul said that "Christ always gives the Victory"......so, if you are not there.......and are instead failing to be a consistent disciple, then there are compounding reasons for this failure to live according to Truth.

1.) you have not understood your Salvation
2.) you are not walking according to Truth
3.) you are not existing in God's Grace as "Right Believing"

See... The devil's replacement religion is to sin, confess, and live like this, until you die.
That is what he wants you to do.
He wants you to FAIL, and that is failure.

Listen, do you think Christ died to redeem anyone, so that they can live the same life of an unbeliever?
See, when you live in the darkness of.... not being delivered from the sinning and repenting and confessing..... then the only difference between your life and an unbeliever's, is that you feel guilty about your sin and they dont.

So, that is not Christianity.
That is a total failure to "work out your salvation", at all.

Behold · Dec 13, 2020

TheslightestID said:
Are you saying one can start his salvation, and then do evil, and not do good, yet Christ will still "finish" their salvation?

We are born again "unto good works".
We the born again are to "present our bodies a LIVING Sacrifice" to God the Father.
We are to "carry our cross, daily".
We are to be in the world, but not of the world.
we are to be shining examples of God's Amazing Grace into this world.
we are to be "salt and light"

We are to be so full of LIGHT...so full of CHRIST's Power, so full of TRUTH... that people notice that "something is different" about us.

We the born again, are the only JESUS that this world will ever SEE.
So, we are to be an ARROW that Points to the WAY.... and Jesus is the Way. John 14:6

But here is the "catch"......until a person who is born again.....lives here in their heart, and within their spiritual understanding. Hebrews 13:9. then they will have no power, no force, no anointing.....nothing.
They will just sin and confess and go to church, and thats about it, or less.

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