The vaccine is safe

Deborah_ said:

Where does this idea come from that a vaccine can make anyone infertile?

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The HPV vaccines have induced more than their fair share of neurological injuries.* There are two new cases about ovary shutdowns, instead. Two isn't significant, but on top of the genuine neuro concerns, we should watch that.

Also, the new vaccine works based on RNA, a different principle than previous vaccines. Because of that, anticipated side effects are even less predictable.

Children of God for Life endorses vaccines (as do I) that meet three requirements,

1. they are ethical,
2. they have negligible side effects, and
3. they are effective.

A vast majority of them meet those minimums or, at least, have alternatives that do.
Chickenpox & post-1979 rubella fail on #1 and have failed on #2 for our family.
HPV has passed #1. It fails #2, but the jury is still out on #3.
The Pfizer covid-19 passes on #1, but #2 & #3 are still unknown in the long term and in wide distribution.
(We have gotten every other worthwhile vaccine.)

*Said injuries were similar to those seen in Covid-19 vaccine testing by AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson.

Deborah_ said:

If there were, sterilisation operations would be unnecessary.

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Also, "side-effect" sterilization would be "dirty" compared to a drug that was intentionally designed for that purpose. The latter would probably have unwanted side effects, too, but the former would be like a shotgun effect.

Since when are 60 & 70+ year olds primed to start families by getting pregnant?

Why on earth those who have such severe allergies that they carry an epi pen with them thought that getting this vaccine was such a good idea I have no clue.

Come spring I'll get mine.
Maybe sooner if enough people refuse it.

Then we can have an immunity party. EVERYONE who has some immunity by either getting the virus or a vaccine can get together and have some fun.

I'll make some sausages and other delightful items. (Grinding is good)

Those who don't have any immunity... maybe one day when you come out of quarantine.

JohnDB said:

Why on earth those who have such severe allergies that they carry an epi pen with them thought that getting this vaccine was such a good idea I have no clue.

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The "allergic" reaction that my family experienced isn't an "allergy" proper. It is called a "De Novo mutation" that we have a predisposition towards. The "allergy" model is just the easiest way to explain it.

Deborah_ said:

Where does this idea come from that a vaccine can make anyone infertile? There is no method known to science of making someone permanently infertile simply by giving them an injection. If there were, sterilisation operations would be unnecessary.

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Not sure, I only know that it was advise given at work in the care home when they offered the vaccine dates. I have read somewhere about a previous vaccine creating a problem with fatility, but cannot remember where. Rita

JohnDB said:

Since when are 60 & 70+ year olds primed to start families by getting pregnant?

Why on earth those who have such severe allergies that they carry an epi pen with them thought that getting this vaccine was such a good idea I have no clue.

Come spring I'll get mine.
Maybe sooner if enough people refuse it.

Then we can have an immunity party. EVERYONE who has some immunity by either getting the virus or a vaccine can get together and have some fun.

I'll make some sausages and other delightful items. (Grinding is good)

Those who don't have any immunity... maybe one day when you come out of quarantine.

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People with epi pens have had vaccinations before with no problems, no info was given with this one that there was a risk. It’s not that it is a vaccine that has caused the issue but the way the Pfizer vaccine works.

In the uk it is the healthcare workers receiving the vaccines , along with the elderly, first. The workers range from 18years - retirement age, so many could be starting families.
Rita

They're trying to cover all bases prior to issuance of this vaccine. Waiting to hear of a "mandate". Which , if JB gets the White House isn't unlikely. After all, he said in his ad campaigns that he'd make a national mask mandate as a matter of patriotism not inconvenience. What then are we to expect him to declare about a vaccine?

• Coronavirus vaccines can have side effects. That typically means they’re working.

• You "Should Not" Take COVID Vaccine if You Have This Condition, Alerts FDA

Infographic: Many U.S. Hospitals Are Running Critically Short Of ICU Beds

I don't think that a vaccine would cause the damage this virus is doing.

Both those statements are true. The natural side effects do mean the vaccines is working, similar to any vaccine. However the allergic reactions to the vaccines happened as soon as it was administered to the two nurses, so they have determined that this vaccine triggers an allergic reaction that already exists. So they are advising those with existing extreme allergies not to have it. Many of my friends have had the natural side effects, they are all okay. Even the two nurses are okay, but they did need medical intervention and they won’t be able to have the second dose.
Rita

Deborah_ said:

Where does this idea come from that a vaccine can make anyone infertile?

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It is not merely an idea. It is a fact:
"...A recent study (2018) analysed information representing 8 million 25-to-29-year-old US women between 2007 and 2014. Approximately 60% of women who did not receive the HPV vaccine had been pregnant at least once, whereas only 35% of women who were exposed to the vaccine had conceived [3]...."
Vaccines & Infertility – The Other Side of Vaccines

You will note that the choice of words here is inappropriate. What should have been said is that 65% of women who were vaccinated with HPV vaccine were found to be infertile. That is huge and noteworthy. And if this is possible with one vaccine, it is possible with others, especially if they have been deliberately manipulated in the lab.

While the COVID vaccines are being touted for political reasons only, the fact remains that none of them have been tested (1) carefully, (2) thoroughly, (3) professionally, (4) independently, (5) non-politically, and (6) long-term. You cannot positively determine a vaccines drawbacks with a few months with very limited numbers of people, and having avoided those who are in the high-risk age group.

Hello everyone... kinda new here... I just thought I would join in on this conversation. I believe that this Plandemic has been blown way out of proportion, especially when you have a world wide lockdown. I see major problems of believing this is a serious illness to worry about when, you have the mainstream media all touting the same narrative and censoring anything that does not go with their narrative. There is something not right when schools, regular jobs, restaurants, churches, are following their "guidelines" are deemed non-essential and have to close but places like WalMart, Costco, Casinos, liquor stores, marijuana dispensaries, and bars can stay open?? There is something not right when healthy people are forced into wearing a mask (and breathing in their own waste). There is something wrong when a vaccine will be mandatory. (forced at gunpoint) Do you all not see this is just not right? Here are some references that you may read and do your own research. I for one WILL NOT TAKE THAT VACCINE. I refuse. I am standing and believing that the Lord will keep me from any pestilence or plague and it will not come near my dwelling place. please read and watch and pray for discernment.


Human 2.0 ? A Wake-Up About COVID19 Vaccine - Dr. Carrie Madej (a good Plandemic Companion video)

PLANDEMIC Part 1 (Dr. Judy Mikovits)


Johns Hopkins student newsletter exposes facts about COVID-19 deaths contradicting the public narrative

December 3, 2020 11:33 AM By James Bailey 7 Comments

An article published on November 22, 2020, by a student at Johns Hopkins in their student newsletter exposed the facts about COVID-19 deaths proving the public narrative is false. The article written by Genieve Briand was quickly removed from the Johns Hopkins website by higher authorities, but thanks to the Internet archives, it is still accessible and shown below.


z3news.com/w/johns-hopkins-student-newsletter-exposes-facts-covid19-deaths-contradicting-public-narrative/


" THEY'VE KILLED GOD. I CAN'T FEEL GOD ANYMORE-MY SOUL IS DEAD." VOLUNTEER SAID AFTER RECEIVING THE VACCINE FOR C0V -i.d.

cnn.com/2020/12/08/us/houston-doctor-covid-dies-trnd/index.html

People get Covid-19/Coronavirus, then recover, then get it again later, then recover.

Vaccination is apparently unnecessary, but in their desperation, for pleasure with "dead flesh". To classifiy the effect as a virus, has with vaccination shifted the cause of death.

The Doctor in the Article, first had heart complications, then died from a stroke....the vaccination has only shifted the organ preferences leading to death, for the susceptible party.

Big Epic Fail! Unfortunately, unless covid-19 evolves or mutates, the issue is closed, everyone will be vaccinated most people will eventually die! (this is a first in medical history, rapid vaccination, without proper observation length)

Enoch111 said:

"...A recent study (2018) analysed information representing 8 million 25-to-29-year-old US women between 2007 and 2014. Approximately 60% of women who did not receive the HPV vaccine had been pregnant at least once, whereas only 35% of women who were exposed to the vaccine had conceived [3]...."

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This shouldn't be accepted uncritically. The data doesn't warrant the conclusion.
Concerns about a paper on HPV vaccination and pregnancy rates

And the paper in question has since been retracted!

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15287394.2018.1477640

If you are sitting at a blackjack table with money in play and you are seeing everyone with face cards (you have two yourself) what do you do? (Dealer has 13)

Now today we in Nashville had 1,100 new cases of coronavirus with at least 280 requesting medical care and 30 needing ICU beds.

Conversely in 60,000+ administered Vaccines we have those two hyper allergic people have allergic reactions to the vaccines.

Guess you are bad at blackjack too right?

JohnDB said:

If you are sitting at a blackjack table with money in play and you are seeing everyone with face cards (you have two yourself) what do you do? (Dealer has 13)

Now today we in Nashville had 1,100 new cases of coronavirus with at least 280 requesting medical care and 30 needing ICU beds.

Conversely in 60,000+ administered Vaccines we have those two hyper allergic people have allergic reactions to the vaccines.

Guess you are bad at blackjack too right?

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You trust your hospital to tell you the truth when there is so much $$$ to be made off COVID? It's odd that the common influenza is way down this year as compared with last year. Even you have to be curious why, I would think, since you are the bearer of the facts and truth...

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Flu cases ‘drop’ 95% compared to last year. Are patients being misdiagnosed as having COVID-19?
Could it be... and stay with me on this... that many of the illnesses that are attributed to COVID-19 are actually just the flu?
by Michio Hasai

October 19, 2020

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COVID-19 is caused by a coronavirus and the flu is caused by an influenza virus. These are two similar but distinct types of viruses that can be easily differentiated in a lab. But new data from the CDC may point to the flu being misdiagnosed as COVID-19, resulting in higher coronavirus numbers but much lower flu numbers. In fact, there has been a 95% decrease in flu cases during current weeks 40-41.

This time last year, there were 1251 flu cases reported to the CDC during weeks 40-41. This is about average. But in 2020, we’re seeing a record low number of 61 total flu cases reported in the same time period. It doesn’t take a medical degree to come to the logical conclusion that the flu didn’t suddenly disappear but that it’s simply being misdiagnosed as COVID-19.

There are two most likely scenarios causing this. The first is nefarious; doctors and hospitals are misdiagnosing on purpose. Whether for political or financial reasons, medical professionals are reporting flu cases as COVID-19. The second and more likely scenario is that people who have been infected with COVID-19 and did not see symptoms were subsequently infected with the flu and then went to the doctor. They were tested and since they had both viruses in their system, they were reported as the higher-paying COVID-19 diagnosis.


On the Ingraham Angle last night, Laura Ingraham and Phil Kerpen discussed this trend and pointed to the likelihood that the flu isn’t really gone, but COVID-19 numbers are more politically and financially expedient to report.

JohnDB said:

Conversely in 60,000+ administered Vaccines we have those two hyper allergic people have allergic reactions to the vaccines.

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If the two who are hyper-allergic get screened out, it is win-win.

Sabertooth said:

If the two who are hyper-allergic get screened out, it is win-win.

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Yeah...

Each year millions to billions of people get the fresh round of vaccines for influenza virus every year without side effects other than feeling poorly for a day.

They make a new one based upon the formula that works but with the new strain of influenza.

They've had a formula that worked for corona type viruses...and they used it.
Guess what?
It worked too! Same or better than the others they tried it on.

The reason influenza Vaccines don't always work is because of the many strains and variations that are out there... you might catch the one you just got vaccinated for or maybe not.

But this is a slow mutating virus...so your vaccine will work and work well.
They don't know how well yet because the proof of innocculation against infection requires a two year long study...we got 6 months at best.

So we shall see what happens... eventually but in the meantime we can get vaccinated against disease. 95% effective...better than most influenza Vaccines and just as good as mumps rubella and polio.

JohnDB said:

They don't know how well yet because the proof of innocculation against infection requires a two year long study...we got 6 months at best.

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This vaccine is built on a new paradigm, so we are in uncharted waters. Early-adopters and the cautious will organically separate into experimental & control groups, respectively. That will help the study, too.

Being on the maiden voyage of the Titanic does not appeal to everybody.