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marks said:

Law increases sin.

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Law only increases sin for the unbeliever still in the realm of the flesh. Believers are able to keep the commands of God because of the Holy Spirit. For them the commands of God do not provoke resistance to the commands of God but rather a genuine desire to keep them and love them. Believers love righteousness. They are not put off by the commands of God. The commands of God are a delight to them.

marks said:

So then this doen't include the person who hasn't overcome all their sin yet, but hates the sin in their life. You aren't talking about that person?

Much love!

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If the person you're referring to who hates sin in their life doesn't purposely live in sin like an unbeliever, but instead wants to resist it and walk in holiness, then yes, I'm not talking about that person. That's a saved person.

Christophany said:

face it you are afraid to say what the gospel really is for fear it will expose you.

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Expose me?

I already told you the gospel is plainly laid out in scripture. That’s the gospel I believe in; Not the fairytale gospel of Once Saved Always Saved.

Where’s your gospel laid out at?

It must not be in the Bible. You haven’t referenced it yet.

What are you afraid of?

marks said:

1 John 4:16-17
16) And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
17) Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

1 John 3:14-16
14) We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
15) Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
16) Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

1 John 3:19-24
19) And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
20) For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
21) Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
22) And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23) And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
24) And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Much love!

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Note vs. 24. That's the point I'm making about the witness of the Spirit. The witness of the Spirit in you testifying that you are a son of God is the change of life that Spirit has wrought in you. It's not just a warm feeling of assurance inside. Many unbelievers insist they have the fuzzy feeling inside that they are okay with God. Mormons are big on that. Did you know that?

Taken said:

Are you scared to be specific?

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I don't even understand the questions.

Michiah-Imla said:

Because your question is as silly as asking someone what 2+2 is.

Anyone with a Bible in hand with reading comprehension can find out what the gospel is.

It’s only those with private interpretations of the gospel who seek to find out if others are on their “level”.

Not playing your game.

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Oh, but you are.

BarnyFife said:

Oh, but you are.

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Glad someone else see it...

But one day the mocking will end.

One day...

Our time here is but a vapor, and everyone will give an account for their behavior here on earth.

And it won’t be rewards that will be lost either.

Michiah-Imla said:

Expose me?

I already told you the gospel is plainly laid out in scripture. That’s the gospel I believe in; Not the fairytale gospel of Once Saved Always Saved.

Where’s your gospel laid out at?

It must not be in the Bible. You haven’t referenced it yet.

What are you afraid of?

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Still playing dodge ball

Michiah-Imla said:

Glad someone else see it...

But one day the mocking will end.

One day...

Our time here is but a vapor, and everyone will give an account for their behavior here on earth.

And it won’t be rewards that will be lost either.

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You're kinda mean. Kindness and gentleness are fruits of the Spirit.

BarnyFife said:

You're kinda mean. Kindness and gentleness are fruits of the Spirit.

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Was Paul mean here:

Acts of the Apostles 13:10?

Was Jesus mean here:

Matthew 23:33?

Was Peter mean here:

2 Peter 2:14?

Surely they had the fruits of the Spirit though offering sharp rebukes at times.

And even Paul chose rather to use strong language in his epistles so he wouldn’t have to rebuke his readers sharply in person.

2 Corinthians 13:10 Therefore I write these things being absent, lest being present I should use sharpness, according to the power which the Lord hath given me to edification, and not to destruction.

Michiah-Imla said:

Was Paul mean here:

Acts of the Apostles 13:10?

Was Jesus mean here:

Matthew 23:33?

Was Peter mean here:

2 Peter 2:14?

Surely they had the fruits of the Spirit though offering sharp rebukes at times.

And even Paul chose rather to use strong language in his epistles so he wouldn’t have to rebuke his readers sharply in person.

2 Corinthians 13:10 Therefore I write these things being absent, lest being present I should use sharpness, according to the power which the Lord hath given me to edification, and not to destruction.

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Newsflash- you are not an Apostle

And you sure ain't nuttin like Jesus........................

next.........

Christophany said:

Newsflash- you are not an Apostle

next.........

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Newsflash:

Romans 15:14 And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another.

A shame that scripture ends up being a newsflash for you.

Go study my friend.

Michiah-Imla said:

Newsflash:

Romans 15:14 And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another.

A shame that scripture ends up being a newsflash for you.

Go study my friend.

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You have no authority since you are unable to tell us what the gospel is from scripture. Who are you kidding ?

Christophany said:

You have no authority since you are unable to tell us what the gospel is from scripture. Who are you kidding ?

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What authority do you have?

You have not told me about the gospel yourself.

But Paul preached the gospel perfectly here:

Acts of the Apostles 13:16-39 KJV
[16] Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience. [17] The God of this people of Israel chose our fathers, and exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land of Egypt, and with an high arm brought he them out of it. [18] And about the time of forty years suffered he their manners in the wilderness. [19] And when he had destroyed seven nations in the land of Chanaan, he divided their land to them by lot. [20] And after that he gave unto them judges about the space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the prophet. [21] And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years. [22] And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will. [23] Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus: [24] When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel. [25] And as John fulfilled his course, he said, Whom think ye that I am? I am not he. But, behold, there cometh one after me, whose shoes of his feet I am not worthy to loose. [26] Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent. [27] For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him. [28] And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain. [29] And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre. [30] But God raised him from the dead: [31] And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people. [32] And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, [33] God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. [34] And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. [35] Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. [36] For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption: [37] But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption. [38] Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: [39] And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

I believe all of the above.

Michiah-Imla said:

Was Paul mean here:

Acts of the Apostles 13:10?

Was Jesus mean here:

Matthew 23:33?

Was Peter mean here:

2 Peter 2:14?

Surely they had the fruits of the Spirit though offering sharp rebukes at times.

And even Paul chose rather to use strong language in his epistles so he wouldn’t have to rebuke his readers sharply in person.

2 Corinthians 13:10 Therefore I write these things being absent, lest being present I should use sharpness, according to the power which the Lord hath given me to edification, and not to destruction.

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Who could've seen this coming? I've never met a mean Christian yet who didn't try to excuse it from Scripture.

Taken said:

Really? A "license to sin" is a "license to be a sexual deviant"?

And where exactly does a sexual deviant "get such a license"?

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They decide grace is a license that makes sinning allowed for them.

Jude 1:4
For certain men have crept in among you unnoticed—ungodly ones who were designated long ago for condemnation. They turn the grace of our God into a license for immorality, and they deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

Turning grace into a license to sin is the equivalent of denying the Lord Jesus. You won't hear Andrew Farley say his teaching turns grace into a license to freely sin, but it surely does, and you won't hear him say making grace a license to freely sin is to deny the Lord Jesus Christ. But as we see, that is what the Bible says.

Ferris Bueller said:

Turning grace into a license to sin is the equivalent of denying the Lord Jesus.

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Why do people say things like this?
Turning grace into a license to sin is not synonymous with denying the Lord Jesus. There are other ways to deny Him.

marks said:

What sin is not willful?

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Sin that indwells our mortal flesh but that we don't act upon.

justbyfaith said:

So, are we no longer forgiven if we fail to keep the law perfectly?

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Ferris Bueller said:

No, lol. Unless your failure to keep the law is because you don't believe in Christ, but just think you do.

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So, if I do not lose my forgiveness when I fail to keep the law, how is the law a requirement? There are no consequences for the believer who violates the law; he is forgiven.

Michiah-Imla said:

If you take a moment and open your Bible you will find it.

It’s very easy to comprehend.

1. Repent.
2. Believe.
3. Endure.

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Sounds like a religion of "do" rather than "done".

Jesus said from the Cross, however, Te Telestai (It is finsihed)

Michiah-Imla said:

I tell you what:

Why don’t you be a good Christian and explain it to me.

Then I’ll compare what you say to the scripture (since you cannot be bothered to check the scriptures yourself).

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How does your understanding of the gospel line up with John 3:16 and 1 Corinthians 15:1-4?

Michiah-Imla said:

Our time here is but a vapor, and everyone will give an account for their behavior here on earth.

And it won’t be rewards that will be lost either.

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Actually, it will be...for many (1 Corinthians 3:11-15)