The Parable Of The Woman And The Manchild

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Basically this parable is telling us that God has designated a place-of-safety for a group ("remnant") where He will feed and protect them for the 1260 days of the GT.

The place-of-safety is not a wilderness. Rather, the word "wilderness" is a catchphrase which is designed to direct us to more information concerning this parable. Specifically, we are directed to the Israel's past where they was protected and fed while they were in the "wilderness."

1 Corinthians 10
Warnings From Israel's History
1For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. 2They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3They all ate the same spiritual food 4and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. 5Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered over the desert.
11These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come.

God protected Israel from the advances of the Egyptians with a "pillar of fire and a cloud."

Exodus 14:24
During the last watch of the night the LORD looked down from the pillar of fire and cloud at the Egyptian army and threw it into confusion.

Similarly, God is going to protect this "remnant" from the advances of the AC's armies.

Isaiah 4
2In that day shall the branch of the LORD be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel.
3And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
4When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.
5And the LORD will create upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a defence.
6And there shall be a tabernacle for a shadow in the day time from the heat, and for a place of refuge, and for a covert from storm and from rain.

And, just as God fed Israel with manna while in the wilderness....

Exodus 16:35
The Israelites ate manna forty years, until they came to a land that was settled; they ate manna until they reached the border of Canaan.

... God is going to feed this remnant manna for the 1260 days of the GT.

Revelation 2:17
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it.

If you haven't picked up on it, the place-of-safety is Mount Zion in Jerusalem. Those who understand this parable are called to this "place" when the time comes.

Joel 2:32
32And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

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Luke 21:20-22
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
(KJV)

The saved remnant of Israel written in God's Word is not just about a small believing remnant that will be in Jerusalem at that time. The remnant of Israel is scattered throughout all nations when Christ comes, for that's what our gathering to Him at His coming is about.

And our Lord Jesus warned for His servants that live outside Jerusalem to not enter in when those armies surround it. The reason is, He's going to pour out His cup of wrath upon them. That's what those "days of vengeance" are about, God's vengeance.

Jerusalem WILL NOT be a place to be just prior to Christ return there. The visions of a saved remnant upon Mount Zion with Christ is for AFTER the cup of His wrath is poured out. When the saints are gathered to Christ in Jerusalem, that's when the Milennium time starts. This present world will have ended.

Today, the othrodox Jews in Jerusalem have the materials ready to build another temple. And Jerusalem during the great tribulation is where the antichrist/false messiah is coming, just prior to Christ's return to destroy him. There is NO safety for a Christian in that. We are not to be found supporting that fake temple, nor the orthodox Jews starting up Old Covenant worship again with animal sacrifices, which will lead to false messiah's reign and false worship to him in that area.
 

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I'm very much interested in discussing the 144,000 to see what people know about that group.

Can anyone expound of them?

Kim
 

Paul

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gs, one of the problems I have with your post is the title, it is not a parable.
 

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Hello Kim,

I believe that the 144K will be the only (male) Christians alive at Christ's advent. Bible prophecy in the past has always been where God provided survival "instructions" to a select group which He ordained to survive a impending disaster. Noah is the classic example. Similarly, in the future, God has provied survival instructions for a select group (the 144K and the daughters of Zion) to survive the coming Great Tribulation and apocalypse.

This is a brief intro. More info can be found on the threads:

The Calling of the 144,000 http://www.christianityboard.com/topic/11461-the-calling-of-the-144000/

God's appointed place-of-safety http://www.christianityboard.com/topic/12225-gods-appointed-place-of-safety/

Guy
 

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Hello Kim,

I believe that the 144K will be the only (male) Christians alive at Christ's advent. Bible prophecy in the past has always been where God provided survival "instructions" to a select group which He ordained to survive a impending disaster. Noah is the classic example. Similarly, in the future, God has provied survival instructions for a select group (the 144K and the daughters of Zion) to survive the coming Great Tribulation and apocalypse.

This is a brief intro. More info can be found on the threads:

The Calling of the 144,000 http://www.christian...-of-the-144000/

God's appointed place-of-safety http://www.christian...lace-of-safety/

Guy
Guy,

You are correct, the 144,000 that are mentioned are males, I know that. I believe there are women and children possibly in their group with them. You mentioned they are called the daughers of Zion. In the Old Testament like in Numbers 1:21 whenever the tribes were mentioned only the men were involved with the counting. The tribes and numbers in Rev. 7:5-8 is God doing the same thing as He did in the Old Testament. You can just see it carried over in the same manner as in the book of Numbers. It's really amazing that the same thing that was being done in the Old Testament is still continued over into the New Testament. We don't see this done very often.

I think everyone except the 144,000 men will go in the gathering away in Rev. 10:7. What do you think about that? Paul called it a mystery. In Rev. 10:7 you see the "mystery" being fulfilled. This is the mystery of the gathering away that Paul was speaking of, I believe. That is why the daughters of Zion aren't with the 144,000 men at the end during the Great Tribulation.

I have already read those other 2 threads as I am searching to know more about this groups of 144,000 and their women and children.

I think I've seen you and veternal discussing this topic on another forum somewhere.

I'm greatly interested in it.

Do you have a website you recomment for learning about it? A forum? Where is this group? Can I talk to them?

Kim
 

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Kim,

You stated: It's really amazing that the same thing that was being done in the Old Testament is still continued over into the New Testament. We don't see this done very often.

My response: Yes it is.

You stated: I think everyone except the 144,000 men will go in the gathering away in Rev. 10:7. What do you think about that?

My response: I agree.

You stated: Do you have a website you recomment for learning about it? A forum?

My response: You'd think there would be one. I guess that it maybe time to start one.

You stated: Where is this group?

My response:They are out there. Like you, they have interest in the subject, but they do not know they are being called. Not all Christians have an interest in the 144K. Those that do are being called.

You stated: Can I talk to them?

My response: What would you like to know?

Guy