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When a man claims to be a Christian and gives lip service to underpin that claim but is found violating its very principles, that man hamstrings himself and qualifies as worse than an unbeliever.
Would you give specific examples of when Trump has done this?
 

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well since trump's been president the stock market went up approximately 6000 points +- before the covid panic unemployment was down as low as its ever been in the US interest rates for home loans were at the lowest he started a posable peace in the middle east that no one has been able to do, he chilled out the wacko north Korean leader that no was able to do, has been up for a Nobel and made arrangements for the pharmaceuticals to fast track vaccines that are now available.

the younger generation don't think the US is a business, and they are way wrong. the US Gov doesn't do anything it commissions companies and corporations to do just about everything. so a business savvy person would be a good thing.

but he called out the chinese on there abuse of the trade agreement and the corrupt house in the Chinese pockets couldn't take him out for the same reason in the name of something else, and so shazam, an economy crippling virous comes out of china just like that.

as far as the Lord and the US of A the free world in general is being left to it's reprobate minds simple as that.
 
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In Mr Trump's case, the man has established his inability as a leader with integrity by his persistent lying....and that right from the outset of his presidency. I think christians who think he's God's gift to America have lost their ability to recognise when a man is no longer bone fide....they also insist on projecting their hopes on one who gives lip service to what they think they believe all the while denying the obvious.
Trump was a very capable leader, some say the most productive since Lincoln. If you listen to CNN, NBC, or other main stream media and believe what you here, you will either hate him or think like you do. His personality has flaws, but it is not so much as what he says, it has been what he said he was going to do and he did it.
Regardless of what you think, and you think your Christianity is on point, well contemplate this: God appoints all leaders of the world for His purpose! And if you resist His appointed authorities, then you will bring judgment on yourself! (Romans 13:1-2)
Trump, I believe, has a faith in God, calls himself a Christian and stands by that. We can't refute someone's faith, regardless of how shallow it is. The Bible states some have weak faith, backed by little knowledge. That's the key right? To grow in the knowledge of the Lord. We grow to love the Word. You must realize that only 500 years ago, very few had the Bible, it wasn't printed until the 16th century. So they knew little and many had faith based on little knowledge. So, in no way is Trump a mature Christian who has studied and grown over decades. He couldn't even quote his favorite scripture when asked or correctly pronounce 1 Corinthians (He referenced a scripture from that book, to a Christian University audience, as One Corinthians.) Besides, we all make errors in our assumptions and theology - don't we? We are all sinners.
Frankly, could Trump, if he miraculously wins (which is possible on Jan. 6, when Congress votes to approve the Electoral College and only one from the House and Senate disapprove, then through a series of actions, it can be overturned); then what would he do for four more years? Make America Great Again? I don't think so. Because the country and the world is sooooooooooooooo corrupt. I think it is time for Judgment Day - many do. I thought God should have judged us when we legalized Gay Marriage. The world system is rotten and evil. This whole pandemic is diabolical, surrounded by lies, deception, fear and control. Who works that way? Satan. So, the elites behind this Globalist take over have Biden, as a puppet, who will, (if he is inaugurated on Jan. 20), usher us into the One World Government. This after destroying our economy through more viruses and lockdowns. You've heard of the Great Reset? They have in mind a Covid-21 to dish out, which will be a more deadly virus, then later on when they get that vaccine, forced vaccinations. All along our freedoms are disappearing in front of our eyes and then the Reset, will force us all to relinquish all our property, which for many will have been lost or in foreclosure. No, Trump can't thwart Satan and his Antichrist and their mission - God has already allowed it, it's prophesied, or didn't you get the memo?
 
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Would you give specific examples of when Trump has done this?
I could if I went to the effort of chasing up various news reports from the past four years.....this I couldn't be bothered doing.
If you are unfamiliar with Mr Trumps various speeches and pronouncements, doing a search for them will no doubt verify it.
 

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I could if I went to the effort of chasing up various news reports from the past four years.....this I couldn't be bothered doing.
If you are unfamiliar with Mr Trumps various speeches and pronouncements, doing a search for them will no doubt verify it.
Actually, it’s up to you to offer support when you make such serious accusations. I’m not even sure what you’re talking about.
 

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False Prophets are either lying[1] or did not test the spirits after receiving revelations.[2] You will know them by their fruits[3] and the Bible gives plenty of warning about them and their motives.[4]

ALL revelations must line up with Scripture and God's principles. God will NEVER contradict Himself because He is unchanging[5] and not the author of confusion.[6]
  1. Deuteronomy 13:1-5, Luke 21:8, Mark 13:3-6, 13:20-23, Matthew 24:3-5, 24:22-28
  2. 1 Corinthians 12:1-3, 1 John 4:1-6, 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22, 2 Timothy 3:10-17
  3. Matthew 7:15-23
  4. 2 Peter 2:1-3, 1 Timothy 6:3-10, 2 Timothy 3:1-9, 4:1-8
  5. Hebrews 13:5-10, Malachi 3:6-7
  6. 1 Corinthians 14:29-33
 
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Pat Robertson? What are his credentials?

What are the credentials of any of these modern Word of Faith/prosperity preachers/prophets??

These people are well-known Christian figures... and they have large followings... It will be interesting to see if their predictions are accurate or simply fantasy.
 

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Trump was a very capable leader, some say the most productive since Lincoln. If you listen to CNN, NBC, or other main stream media and believe what you here, you will either hate him or think like you do. His personality has flaws, but it is not so much as what he says, it has been what he said he was going to do and he did it.
Regardless of what you think, and you think your Christianity is on point, well contemplate this: God appoints all leaders of the world for His purpose! And if you resist His appointed authorities, then you will bring judgment on yourself! (Romans 13:1-2)
Trump, I believe, has a faith in God, calls himself a Christian and stands by that. We can't refute someone's faith, regardless of how shallow it is. The Bible states some have weak faith, backed by little knowledge. That's the key right? To grow in the knowledge of the Lord. We grow to love the Word. You must realize that only 500 years ago, very few had the Bible, it wasn't printed until the 16th century. So they knew little and many had faith based on little knowledge. So, in no way is Trump a mature Christian who has studied and grown over decades. He couldn't even quote his favorite scripture when asked or correctly pronounce 1 Corinthians (He referenced a scripture from that book, to a Christian University audience, as One Corinthians.) Besides, we all make errors in our assumptions and theology - don't we? We are all sinners.
Frankly, could Trump, if he miraculously wins (which is possible on Jan. 6, when Congress votes to approve the Electoral College and only one from the House and Senate disapprove, then through a series of actions, it can be overturned); then what would he do for four more years? Make America Great Again? I don't think so. Because the country and the world is sooooooooooooooo corrupt. I think it is time for Judgment Day - many do. I thought God should have judged us when we legalized Gay Marriage. The world system is rotten and evil. This whole pandemic is diabolical, surrounded by lies, deception, fear and control. Who works that way? Satan. So, the elites behind this Globalist take over have Biden, as a puppet, who will, (if he is inaugurated on Jan. 20), usher us into the One World Government. This after destroying our economy through more viruses and lockdowns. You've heard of the Great Reset? They have in mind a Covid-21 to dish out, which will be a more deadly virus, then later on when they get that vaccine, forced vaccinations. All along our freedoms are disappearing in front of our eyes and then the Reset, will force us all to relinquish all our property, which for many will have been lost or in foreclosure. No, Trump can't thwart Satan and his Antichrist and their mission - God has already allowed it, it's prophesied, or didn't you get the memo?

Greetings, Ronald, and Merry Christmas!

I do think many outside the States hear only the headlines their own press puts out and their populaces generally adopt, without stopping to look at what our President actually did for this country and for Israel. Many seem to view what he said as more important than what he did, which I think is a big mistake when it comes to judging politicians. I think that's precisely what's been wrong with American politics for decades. It was all about what politicians said and how they acted, when behind the scenes what they were actually doing was betraying our country left and right. Suddenly we had a man who was the exact opposite from that, and it's why so many found him refreshing. But unless you are an American citizen you won't be able to see it. I guess it's because they have no motivation to, since what happens to this country is of no great concern to them. I think I've only met one non-US citizen who truly understood what was going on.

Anyway, I agree with some of the things in your post. I would qualify, however, that we still have a long ways to go yet before we get to the Antichrist.

God bless,
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I do think many outside the States hear only the headlines their own press puts out and their populaces generally adopt, without stopping to look at what our President actually did for this country and for Israel. Many seem to view what he said as more important than what he did, which I think is a big mistake when it comes to judging politicians. I think that's precisely what's been wrong with American politics for decades. It was all about what politicians said and how they acted, when behind the scenes what they were actually doing was betraying our country left and right. Suddenly we had a man who was the exact opposite from that, and it's why so many found him refreshing. But unless you are an American citizen you won't be able to see it. I guess it's because they have no motivation to, since what happens to this country is no great concern to them. I think I've only met one non-US citizen who truly understood what was going on.

I absolutely agree with this assessment.... and I have admitted that I am one of those who have not been able to look past the rhetoric and behaviour of the president... I have pondered deeply on this matter and I think I might be wrong... Sadly... I got mocked and accused of being the ENEMY on the Presidential election thread...to the point where I don't even desire to be here at all... nor do I really wish to engage with others.... I have been terribly ridiculed and mocked by several contributors and labelled all kind of terrible things.

I also agree that it is impossible for those outside of America to see and truly understand the dynamics of what is going on.... I do have the motivation to at least try and understand... but find that I have been cast as the enemy for following and even liking a contributor that comes from the United Kingdom... Ironically ... his posts were something I was at least able to understand...

It is a sad state of affairs... and I regress that I am to the point where I no longer desire to learn... Everyone is so angry... and everyone thinks they're right.... To me it's all just noise.

Merry Christmas to you... I am finishing this day out and then I believe I shall move on.
 
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...then what would he do for four more years? Make America Great Again?
If Trump could somehow put together a real Trump team (and avoid all the Swamp dwellers) he could start by having all the high-level criminals arrested, prosecuted, and jailed. But since the entire judicial system has been demolished from within all the way to the Supreme Court, chances are that the criminals would walk, while the law-abiding citizens are locked up.
 

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Evangelical leader Pat Robertson criticized President Trump on Monday, saying he "lives in an alternate reality" and he truly believes he won the 2020 general election over President-elect Joe Biden. "I think it’s all over. I think the Electoral College has spoken. Source Fox News

This is the same man who prophesied that without question... Trump will win the election. He is now stating that Trump is living in an alternate reality... REALLY?

Trump seems to have depended on the "passion" of the Evangelicals to do his fighting for him... I think it was part of his STRATEGY all along and maybe even part of a deal... and it has worked even better than could ever be imagined.

The issue of the US election has absolutely devastated the Christian world... AT a time where everyone should have been standing in prayer and in unity... they chose to stand divided... Cruel and harsh words have been spoken... all in the name of CHRIST.

It will be interesting to see what God is actually doing with America.

I have been told that I have NO right to be commenting on the subject of the election because I cannot understand patriotism... and I am not American. The fact that I am not a fan of Mr. Trump due to how he has presented himself over the years... puts me at a real disadvantage... and according to several members... my thoughts/opinions are WORTH NOTHING. I am ok with that... but it does sadden me that people have lost the belief in CIVILIZED communication.

For those of you who think it is ACCEPTABLE to BASH and BELITTLE others who do not agree with and/or see things in the same light... there is a word for that.

It's called being PRIDEFUL... The bible has words to say about that.

For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned. ~Romans 12:3
 

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Bro Robertson is getting a mite old. Maybe senile? "Do not condemn your brother in Jesus."
 

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Evangelical leader Pat Robertson criticized President Trump on Monday, saying he "lives in an alternate reality" and he truly believes he won the 2020 general election over President-elect Joe Biden. "I think it’s all over. I think the Electoral College has spoken. Source Fox News

This is the same man who prophesied that without question... Trump will win the election. He is now stating that Trump is living in an alternate reality... REALLY?

Trump seems to have depended on the "passion" of the Evangelicals to do his fighting for him... I think it was part of his STRATEGY all along and maybe even part of a deal... and it has worked even better than could ever be imagined.

The issue of the US election has absolutely devastated the Christian world... AT a time where everyone should have been standing in prayer and in unity... they chose to stand divided... Cruel and harsh words have been spoken... all in the name of CHRIST.

It will be interesting to see what God is actually doing with America.

I have been told that I have NO right to be commenting on the subject of the election because I cannot understand patriotism... and I am not American. The fact that I am not a fan of Mr. Trump due to how he has presented himself over the years... puts me at a real disadvantage... and according to several members... my thoughts/opinions are WORTH NOTHING. I am ok with that... but it does sadden me that people have lost the belief in CIVILIZED communication.

For those of you who think it is ACCEPTABLE to BASH and BELITTLE others who do not agree with and/or see things in the same light... there is a word for that.

It's called being PRIDEFUL... The bible has words to say about that.

For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned. ~Romans 12:3
Robertson is trying to save face so that the $$$ keep coming in.
 
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Bro Robertson is getting a mite old. Maybe senile? "Do not condemn your brother in Jesus."

This isn't about condemning... this is about publicly stating "prophesy"... and then watching to see if it is fulfilled... There are many prophets who are STILL urging Christians to continue fighting because it's not over... I find this very interesting
 

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What are the credentials of any of these modern Word of Faith/prosperity preachers/prophets??

These people are well-known Christian figures... and they have large followings... It will be interesting to see if their predictions are accurate or simply fantasy.
They are false . I know that sounds mean . I dont mean for it to sound mean . but i have well examined them .
I would not dream of accusing one falsey , as God does not like false accusers . BUT they FALSE . Just like romes popes , false .
WE need to serious get ourselves refeshed in our bibles .
The liberal churches are tanked big time as well . I notice something on all sites .
IF you touch their biden annointed god some attack you with vengeance , same goes for the trumpers . THEY have fallen in love
with the hopes in men . Its very sad . All we ever needed was and is JESUS . And we should never have allowed
men to give us lies , false hopes , hopes in this world and its politics . I got my hope . JESUS and i have my kindgom .
And it aint IN THIS WORLD or OF IT . JESUS is all we need , and let those bibles be what we read .
 
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