Repentance is the Gift Of God !

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ChristisGod

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My point is that Jesus said that not everyone who professes His name will inherit eternal life, only those who does His Father's will.
His sheep have been given eternal life snd no one can snatch them from Him. John 10.

Any more lies you want to tell ?

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Repentance is a gift from God. Repentance means to turn from or forsake sin. This requires obedience (yielding to God), which you espouse is unnecessary to obtain eternal life; yet Jesus taught otherwise.

Proverbs 28
[13] He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
God gives repentance as a gift.
 

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no, grace and faith is given to those that Jesus died for as Savior, actually the restoration of the Life Adam originally had. repentance is something most any living creator can do. for example two males show contest for breading rights in a herd, but one repents of the idea for survival reasons.

in the case of the Almighty, it He might accept one's repentance is what is important and is a gift if you will.
False statement
 

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His sheep have been given eternal life snd no one can snatch them from Him. John 10.

Any more lies you want to tell ?

next...........

You call me a liar, but a liar does not uphold God's commandments.

Genesis 3
[1] Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
[2] And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
[3] But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
[4] And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

1 John 2
[3] And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
 
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brightfame52

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Romans 2 indeed says that 'the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance'.
Yeah it says that. Scripture says Christ as Saviour gives repentance Acts 5:31

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
 
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His sheep have been given eternal life snd no one can snatch them from Him. John 10.

Any more lies you want to tell ?

next...........
I believe that the "lie" he has told is not a lie at all....but is a truth spoken by our Lord Jesus Christ in Matthew 7:21.
 

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Now to show why I believe that repentance is the product of the new birth, lets look at 1 Pet 1:3

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

The words begotten us again, speaking of new birth, is the word anagennaō:
  1. to produce again, be born again, born anew
  2. metaph. to have one's mind changed so that he lives a new life and one conformed to the will of God
So repentance correlates with being born anew, which is produced through the resurrection of Christ from the dead. This explains why Peter says in Acts 5:31

31Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

notice to be born anew is to have one mind changed, which is the essence of repentance.3
 

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Now to show why I believe that repentance is the product of the new birth, lets look at 1 Pet 1:3

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

The words begotten us again, speaking of new birth, is the word anagennaō:
  1. to produce again, be born again, born anew
  2. metaph. to have one's mind changed so that he lives a new life and one conformed to the will of God
So repentance correlates with being born anew, which is produced through the resurrection of Christ from the dead. This explains why Peter says in Acts 5:31

31Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

notice to be born anew is to have one mind changed, which is the essence of repentance.3

He offers it to all men; and you either receive it or you don't.
 

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Thats error, He gives repentance to some, His Elect

The Lord predestinates His elect according to foreknowledge (Romans 8:29-30, 1 Peter 1:2) of whether or not they will receive repentance as a gift. He gives the gift to all men (Acts of the Apostles 17:30); not all men receive it.
 

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The Lord predestinates His elect according to foreknowledge (Romans 8:29-30, 1 Peter 1:2) of whether or not they will receive repentance as a gift. He gives the gift to all men (Acts of the Apostles 17:30); not all men receive it.
False made up statement.
 

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False made up statement.
I backed it up with holy scripture; it is not made up in the slightest. That you would say that it is, is deeply ignorant! For I have referenced the scriptures that teach the reality of the statement.
 

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I backed it up with holy scripture; it is not made up in the slightest. That you would say that it is, is deeply ignorant! For I have referenced the scriptures that teach the reality of the statement.
You backed it up with your imagination. God gives repentance to His People.
 

justbyfaith

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You backed it up with your imagination. God gives repentance to His People.
They have to receive repentance in order to own it. It is a gift; and gifts must be received or else the recipient does not own what is given to them.
 

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False statement

of course you can't prove its false, right? you should read what Paul has to say:


Rom 9:14  What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 
Rom 9:15  For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 
Rom 9:16  So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 
Rom 9:17  For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 
Rom 9:18  Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 
Rom 9:19  Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 
Rom 9:20  Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 
Rom 9:21  Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 
Rom 9:22  What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 
Rom 9:23  And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, 


its about God's Mercy and who He sees fit to have that Mercy on, those are the facts.
 

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of course you can't prove its false, right? you should read what Paul has to say:


Rom 9:14  What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 
Rom 9:15  For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 
Rom 9:16  So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 
Rom 9:17  For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 
Rom 9:18  Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 
Rom 9:19  Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 
Rom 9:20  Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 
Rom 9:21  Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 
Rom 9:22  What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 
Rom 9:23  And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, 


its about God's Mercy and who He sees fit to have that Mercy on, those are the facts.
You proved it
 

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The unregenerate, who are in the flesh still, have no right to or no command to repent. All while in the flesh as natural men are bound to the Law, to do the whole Law as it was with Adam. So any command for men to repent as say in Acts 17:30

30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Its to the regenerate, who through the work of Christ and the Holy Spirit have been freed to be married to another. Rom 7:1-3

Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

Now its only through the death of Christ for an individual are they free from the dominion of the law, however its a secret as who it is Christ died until born again by the Spirit. So even the unregenerate elect for whom Christ died, are bound to do the law. Until they are regenerate, the command to repent isnt for the unregenerate elect. All natural men are bound to and under the dominion of the Law.7