Genesis chapter 1 & 2 as well as to chapter 6, a second Look

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a poster asked me to start a post and not hijack his, (???), if replying means Hijacking. oh well.

The Matter at hand is this, "We have been taught in ERROR concerning the BEGINNING.

I'm here to set the record straight , and asking for your imput in seeking the truth.

Evidence put forth.
Chapter 1
#1. Genesis 1:1 and verse 2 there is no Gap theory.

#2. Genesis 1:3,4, & 5 "the LIGHT" is wisdom.

#3. Genesis 1:6-13 the Eco Systems.

#4. Genesis 1:14-19 Astronomy, of the luminary, and their effects on the Earth.

#5. Genesis 1:20-23 Water and some winged Animals.

#6. Genesis 1:24 &25 Land and some air animals.

#7. Genesis 1:26-31 the creation of "MANKIND", and

Chapter #2 support this creation account in Chapter with details.

Chapter #3. Mankind, filling the Earth, by first having Children in the Garden First, (which account for Cain wife, and the sons of God in chapter 6).

so in oder to understand the creation Account, one need to know the TRUTH of the account.

so a discussion of the CREATION of God is at Hand. starting with #1.
 

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#1. No Gap Theory.
the key to solving this error is in the usage of the Hebrew word for “EARTH” or “LAND”, H776 ’eres as used in Genesis 1:2 and Jeremiah 4:23. there are two usage of H776 ’eres. first usage, “EARTH”. in the Old Testament It expresses a world view contrary to ancient myths, as well as many modern theories seeking to explain the origin of the universe and the forces which sustain it. ’Eres may be translated "earth," the temporal scene of human activity, experience, and history. The material world had a beginning when God "made the earth by His power," "formed it," and "spread it out".

but usage #2, of this same word can be translated as LAND, and does not only denote the entire terrestrial planet, but is also used of some of the earth's component parts. English words like land, country, ground, and soil transfer its meaning into our language. example, "the LAND of Egypt," "the LAND of the Philistines," "the LAND of Israel," "the LAND of Benjamin," and so on. and many relate this to the actions in Jeremiah of total destruction of the "Land. So we can clearly see from the above definitions that Jeremiah was talking only about a certain LAND on the EARTH, and not the entire planet. As definition #2 states, “it refers to an area occupied by a nation or tribe”, in this case Judah. Because verse 23 states, “The whole LAND shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end”. The LAND was Judah, and not the entire planet. notice how I been capitalizing “LAND”. let’s put it in plain language. the Original Word: ’eres can mean LAND, like we say today the LAND of Lincoln. do we mean the entire planet? no we’re speaking of the Land of Illinois, the state, not the entire planet. now, the bible example, and how it is used in context. Genesis 2:11 "The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold”. the whole “LAND” (H776 אֶרֶץ 'erets). is this the whole “EARTH”? NO just as definition #2 states, some of the earth's component parts, like in ground, country, or “LAND”. this is how the devil deceive or beguiled people, by not researching out words. so in Genesis 1:2 it is speaking of the entire planet, (nothing is MADE, shaped, or formed.) and in Jeremiah only the “LAND” of Judah. see how easy that was to understand?, research. the research which leads us to step #2.

Step #2 the repopulating of the earth error, again we will take the quick and easy way to put an end, or to rest this error. the KJ version of the bible was written in old English. so we need an old English dictionary to use, because words change meaning over time. scripture, Genesis 1:28 "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth”. here, the misunderstood word is “replenish”. let's get the correct definition. using an old English dictionary, Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English, the word “replenish” means, 1. To fill; (STOP), we don’t have to go any further. there is where the error lay. most think replenish mean to do it again. no, it mean to fill or let’s continue, to stock with numbers or abundance. how plain can one get. definition #2. To finish; to complete. {Not in use}.

so in conclusion: the Earth was not destroyed at Genesis 1:2 and neither was it RE-plenish, (do it again), but filled with PEOPLE. I hope one can see the truth now. if one want the long or (complete version) of “tohuw“, and “bohuw”, as how it was used in Jeremiah 4 just ask.


my source for H776 ’eres earth, land. VINE'S COMPLETE old Testament EXPOSITORY DICTIONARY.

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#2. Genesis 1:3,4, & 5 "the LIGHT" is wisdom.

Foundation Scripture
: Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
Teaching Scriptures: Genesis 1:3 "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."
Supportive Scripture: John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

There are many theories and explanation as to what, or who the “LIGHT” is in Genesis chapter 1. lets see what the bible say, and then we can lay aside all these different theories and explanation aside and know the truth. so what or who is the LIGHT? the bible tells us of two lights in Genesis chapter 1, and one is identified as a “Who”, and the other is identified as a “what”.

THE FIRST DAY
Genesis 1:3 "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."Genesis 1:4 "And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness."Genesis 1:5 "And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day."

NOW THE FOURTH DAY,
Genesis 1:14 "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:"Genesis 1:15 "And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so."Genesis 1:16 "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also."Genesis 1:17 "And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,"Genesis 1:18 "And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good."Genesis 1:19 "And the evening and the morning were the fourth day."

there is a couple of distinction between what happen on day 1 at the beginning, and on day 4.

#1. God divided the light from the darkness in verse 4, on the first day. but in verse 14 it is the sun and the earth that divide the day from the night. we have two division of light/day, and darkness/night. if it was good, why divide the same thing again? and three, in verse 4, it's, "LIGHT", a single designation, whereas in verse 14 it's plural. and one more distinction, the Light in Day one is feminine and a Noun, as compared to the Light on day 4 is a verb. Here's the revelation,

the definition of Light in verse 4, is H216 אוֹר 'owr (ore) n-f.
1. illumination.
2. (concretely) luminary (in every sense, including lightning, happiness, etc.).
[from H215]
KJV: bright, clear, + day, light (-ning), morning, sun.

Notice that word "happiness" in the definition #2, why put happiness in this definition of Light? I'll be coming back to it.

the definition of “Light” in verse 14, the shinning light, not the object that is the source of the light, but the shining light itself is,
H215 אוֹר 'owr (ore) v.
1. to be luminous.
2. (causative) to make luminous.
{literally and metaphorically}
[a primitive root]
KJV: X break of day, glorious, kindle, (be, en-, give, show) light (-en, -ened), set on fire, shine.

Notice how the kjv can translate this light, "shine" keep this in mind. lets compare the two Lights,
the LIGHT in verse 4 & 5 is
H216 אוֹר 'owr (ore) n-f.
1. illumination.
2. (concretely) luminary (in every sense, including lightning, happiness, etc.).
[from H215]
KJV: bright, clear, + day, light (-ning), morning, sun.
Root(s): H215

Look at the first definition of each, 1. to be luminous. 1. illumination. see the difference. also NOTICE, in H215 אוֹר 'owr (ore) v. the KJV can translate this LIGHT, "Shine" which in found in verse 14. but the Light in verse 4 & 5 is not or is not translate so, or can be translated as "shine". so the conclusion, the Light in verses 4 & 5 is not the same in verse 14, the scriptures makes that crystal Clear.

remember, I said keep definition H216 אוֹר 'owr (ore) n-f. in your mind, about "happiness", lets look at it.
1. illumination.
2. (concretely) luminary (in every sense, including lightning, happiness, etc.).
[from H215]
KJV: bright, clear, + day, light (-ning), morning, sun.

notice #2. in the second definition, "happiness", now scripture, Proverbs 8:22 "The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old." Proverbs 8:23 "I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was."Proverbs 8:24 "When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water." Proverbs 8:25 "Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:" Proverbs 8:26 "While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world." Proverbs 8:27 "When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:" Proverbs 8:28 "When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:" Proverbs 8:29 "When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:" Proverbs 8:30 "Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;" Proverbs 8:31 "Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men."

that word "delight" guess what it means? that's right "Happiness" the same happiness found in definition H216 אוֹר 'owr (ore) n-f.
1. illumination.
2. (concretely) luminary (in every sense, including lightning, happiness, etc.).
[from H215]
KJV: bright, clear, + day, light (-ning), morning, sun.

the Light here is 1. illumination. or enlighten. Ephesians 1:18 "The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints," so illumination is to GIVE knowledge and UNDERSTANDING, which is "WISDOM", and the Lord Jesus is that WISDOM as Proverbs 8 above states.

one more, in Proverbs 8:31 "Rejoicing", another word for it..... that's right "happiness" so all understanding point to "WISDOM, wisdom is what open our eyes of understanding ... with KNOWLEDGE, true KNOWLEDGE. this is where EVE was deceived, KNOWLEDGE without Wisdom of God.

so without a doubt, the LIGHT in verses 4 and 5 is not natural sunlight, or physical natural, but the LIGHT in verses 4 & 5 is WISDOM, the Light of the world. and here God is saying understand what I'm doing in CREATION.

John 1:5 "And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."
Romans 1:22 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,"

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#3. Genesis 1:6-13 the Eco Systems. and MAN, "man is to care for what God made"

God gave man the wisdom of this planet, and we have lost this knowledge, before he made anything, he made man, and man was here when God made all the Ecosystem, the LIGHT is the wisdom of God, scripture, Proverbs 8:31 "Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men." delights here is in the plural, meaning the wisdom of God in all his Works. Psalms 104:24 "O LORD, how manifold are thy works! in wisdom hast thou made them all: the earth is full of thy riches.". and man was here to witness all of God's work in wisdom, In KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING. and we will get to man Forming on day 3 in chapter 2.but now onto the Ecosystem

What is an Ecosystem?
An ecosystem, a term very often used in biology, is a community of plants and animals interacting with each other in a given area, and also with their non-living environments. The non-living environments include weather, earth, sun, soil, climate and atmosphere. The ecosystem relates to the way that all these different organisms live in close proximity to each other and how they interact with each other.

Ecosystem Structure
At a basic functional level, ecosystem generally contains primary producers (plants) capable of harvesting energy from the sun through the process called photosynthesis. This energy then flows through the food chain. Next come consumers. Consumers could be primary consumers (herbivores) or secondary consumers (carnivores). These consumers feed on the captured energy. Decomposers work at the bottom of the food chain. Dead tissues and waste products are produced at all levels. Scavengers, detritivores and decomposers not only feed on this energy but also break organic matter back into its organic constituents. It is the microbes that finish the job of decomposition and produce organic constituents that can again be used by producers.

Energy that flows through the food chain i.e. from producers to consumers to decomposers is always inefficient. That means less energy is available at secondary consumers level than at primary producers level. Its not surprising but amount of energy produced from place to place varies a lot due to amount of solar radiation and the availability of nutrients and water.

Types of Ecosystem
There are many types of ecosystems, but the three major classes of ecosystems, sometimes referred to as ‘biomes’, which are relatively contained, are the following:

Freshwater Ecosystems
Terrestrial Ecosystems
Ocean Ecosystems

These can then be broken up into smaller ecosystems. For instance, in the freshwater ecosystems we find:
Pond Ecosystems – These are usually relatively small and contained. Most of the time they include various types of plants, amphibians and insects. Sometimes they include fish, but as these cannot move around as easily as amphibians and insects, it is less likely, and most of the time fish are artificially introduced to these environments by humans.
River Ecosystems – Because rivers always link to the sea, they are more likely to contain fish alongside the usual plants, amphibians and insects.
These sorts of ecosystems can also include birds because birds often hunt in and around water for small fish or insects.

As is clear from the title, freshwater ecosystems are those that are contained to freshwater environments. This includes, but is not limited to, ponds, rivers and other waterways that are not the sea (which is, of course, saltwater and cannot support freshwater creatures for very long). Freshwater ecosystems are actually the smallest of the three major classes of ecosystems. The ecosystems of freshwater systems include relatively small fish (bigger fish are usually found in the sea), amphibians (such as frogs, toads and newts), insects of various sorts and, of course, plants. The absolutely smallest living part of the food web of these sorts of ecosystems is plankton, a small organism that is often eaten by fish and other small creatures.

Terrestrial ecosystems are many because there are so many different sorts of places on Earth. Some of the most common terrestrial ecosystems that are found are the following:
Rainforests – Rainforests usually have extremely dense ecosystems because there are so many different types of animals all living in a very small area.
Tundra – As mentioned above, tundra usually have relatively simple ecosystems because of the limited amount of life that can be supported in these harsh conditions.
Deserts – Quite the opposite of tundra in many ways, but still harsh, more animals live in the extreme heat than live in the extreme cold of Antarctica, for instance.
Savannas – These differ from deserts because of the amount of rain that they get each year. Whereas deserts get only a tiny amount of precipitation every tea, savannas tend to be a bit wetter which is better for supporting more life.
Forests – There are many different types of forests all over the world including deciduous forests and coniferous forests. These can support a lot of life and can have very complex ecosystems.
Grasslands – Grasslands support a wide variety of life and can have very complex and involved ecosystems.
Since there are so many different types of terrestrial ecosystems, it can be difficult to make generalizations that cover them all.
Because terrestrial ecosystems are so diverse, it is difficult to make generalizations about them. However, a few things are true almost all of the time. For instance, most contain herbivores that eat plants (that get their sustenance from the sun and the soil) and all have carnivores that eat herbivores and other carnivores. Some places, such the poles, contain mainly carnivores because not plant life grows. A lot of animals and plants that grow and live in terrestrial ecosystems also interact with freshwater and sometimes even ocean ecosystems.

Ocean ecosystems are relatively contained, although they, like freshwater ecosystems, also include certain birds that hunt for fish and insects close to the ocean’s surface. There are different sorts of ocean ecosystems:

Shallow water – Some tiny fish and coral only live in the shallow waters close to land.
Deep water – Big and even gigantic creatures can live deep in the waters of the oceans. Some of the strangest creatures in the world live right at the bottom of the sea.
Warm water – Warmer waters, such as those of the Pacific Ocean, contain some of the most impressive and intricate ecosystems in the world.
Cold water – Less diverse, cold waters still support relatively complex ecosystems. Plankton usually form the base of the food chain, following by small fish that are either eaten by bigger fish or by other creatures such as seals or penguins.
Ocean ecosystems are amongst some of the most interesting in the world, especially in warm waters such as those of the Pacific Ocean. This is not least because around 75% of the Earth is covered by the sea, which means that there is lots of space for all sorts of different creatures to live and thrive. There are actually three different types of oceanic ecosystems: shallow waters, deep waters and the deep ocean surface. In two of these the very base of the food chain is plankton, just as it is in freshwater ecosystems.

These plankton and other plants that grow in the ocean close to the surface are responsible for almost half of all photosynthesis that occurs on Earth. From this there are herbivorous creatures that eat the plankton, such as shrimp, that are then themselves usually eaten by bigger creatures, particularly fish. Interesting, in the deep ocean, plankton cannot exist because photosynthesis cannot occur since light cannot penetrate that far into the ocean’s depths. Down in the deepest depths of the ocean, therefore, creatures have adapted very strangely and are amongst some of the most fascination and the most terrifying and intriguing living creatures on Earth.

but there is more to the these system that meet the eye, for some are deep below the surface of the earth or above it.

science is saying the same thing the bible is saying in a common language.


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I have a friend whom the Lord has being teaching genesis now for must be 40 years, not sure shes past Chap 4, some men smarter than God.
 

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#4. Genesis 1:14-19 Astronomy, of the luminary, and their effects on the Earth.
I have a friend whom the Lord has being teaching genesis now for must be 40 years, not sure shes past Chap 4, some men smarter than God.
first thanks for the reply, smater than God, lol, don't show any ignorance please. if God is your teacher you can grasp Genesis in 40 weeks or 40 days, for with God... as the scriptures states, Matthew 19:26 "But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."

I first started to study Genesis, on my own, and that was my First mistake. one cannot study God and learn him, no, and I say again, no, one cannot study God to Learn him. God must reveal himself to you/us. and if you ask in FAITH, he will give you wisdom to Understand and Know him. that's why I say, "one have to spend some time with the Lord.

I tried it my way and it cost me lost time and effort ....... and more effort in lost time... (smile). so I surrender to the Lord and, "ASKED" for help. for the scriptures are true, "ye have not because ye ask not". but when you ask, don't ask amiss, but in FAITH. and look out the revelations comes.

I can sit here and lie and say, "Oh I studied hard, and burn the midnight oil, and researched day and night". I can say that and lie, and yes, I did all those things, but I had to go God who revealed them to me, and so much more did he reveal about himself.

yes, when I tried to do it my way, it took me 6 months just to get pass the first chapter in Genesis, and that was with cheating. so i did the math quick, if 6 months and only one chapter and still didn't know anything, and Genesis alone had over 40 chapters, and Isaiah alone had 66 chapters, well the math was not adding up in my favor, and still I was not understanding anything. so I thank the Lord, but no thanks, it would be a waist of my time. and the Lord said try me....... and I took him up on his offer, and he pointed me to an answer that I was seek and when I open the bible, and did not have to turn a page, but where I open it, there was my answer. I had read the verse before many times, but never comprehend the understanding. so God showed me tip, and simple nuggets as to how to understand, by his WISDOM. so after that, I said I'm outta the sack as for men, and relied on God for his teaching. so far he has never failed. and now I have full confidence in HIM.

oh yes, I know he uses people to relay information, but when you have the greater one in you, you will know if they are of God or not.

so it makes no difference if one study 40 years, 40 week or 40 day, if they are taught by God, God taught people will know, for he NEVER contradict his own Word. you can take that to the bank, and anywhere else you like.... God is true.

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so it makes no difference if one study 40 years, 40 week or 40 day, if they are taught by God, God taught people will know, for he NEVER contradict his own Word
Yes God cannot contradict Himself or Christ not even the Holy Spirit.

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Bu yes, we know nothing unless it has being revealed to us, but one mans revelation is not anothers. But at least we agree on one thing.

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Yes God cannot contradict Himself or Christ not even the Holy Spirit.

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Bu yes, we know nothing unless it has being revealed to us, but one mans revelation is not anothers. But at least we agree on one thing.

God bless
GINOLJC, to all.
First thanks for the reply, second, I know sometimes we don't see eye to eye on all things, that ok, but one thing we need to get together on is who is "GOD" our Father. this is 2021, and christian still are, (at least some are), still divided on the Godhead. I suggest as the apostles Paul by the Holy Spirit said, "that there be no division" and us, as the children of God should be on one accord.

if God is three persons, then the bible must say that, and I'll began with what you posted. 1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." are you really sure, that the bible here, is speaking of three separate and distinct persons? we say NO. listen to the verse and what it states, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one" Notice it said, "these", and not "THEY" are one. but "these", are one. "these", are titles of the ONE Person Jesus who is the Holy Spirit, holding the titles, Father and Son. the Holy Spirit/Ghost is the only person who is God, in the Godhead. and he, the Holy Ghost, Jesus, hold both titles, "Father", and "Son". that's it. nothing else. for Jesus is the diversity, or the plurality of God himself, (who is Spirit/Father, LORD, all cap/ordinal First, ), diversified in flesh, (who is spirit, small cap "s" in spirit, Son/Lord, cap "L" in Lord, Last, the ordinal Last). so if the verse would have said, "THEY" are One then we all could pack our bags and go home, BINGO.

and for the 1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." read what the verse is really saying. "these three agree in one. this...... "these", again are not separate and distinct persons, it's ONE person, (spirit, small case "s" in spirit, a man's spirit), who dwells in a body of flesh, (water), and blood. it's Just that simple. ONE PERSON, on EARTH who witness, (Jesus the Son, and One Person in heaven that witness, (Jesus the Holy Spirit, the Father).

and the bible cannot contradict itself as we agree. so I put forth to you, IN Genesis 1:26, is this only one Person present at the time of of the speaking, or is there more than one person present at the time of the Speaking? this will answer your 1 John 5:7 & 8 scriptures. this will test if God is a plurality of himself before, and at the Foundation of the world.

so this will settle if there is ONE person of God or three persons of God. will be looking for your reply.

remember this is seeking the truth, not an argument........ thanks in advance.


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and the bible cannot contradict itself as we agree.
Oh yes it can, its just a book, complied bu men from fragments of paper. You should go watch all the videos about all them istranslations, additions and removals. Men really do make a mockery of God. Jesus is the word of God made flesh, in Him alone is the truth, with God and teh Holy Spirit the only reliable sources. For those who have "ears to hear".
 

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Oh yes it can, its just a book, complied bu men from fragments of paper. You should go watch all the videos about all them istranslations, additions and removals. Men really do make a mockery of God. Jesus is the word of God made flesh, in Him alone is the truth, with God and teh Holy Spirit the only reliable sources. For those who have "ears to hear".
First thanks for the reply, second, ERROR on your Part, the bible never condridict itself, and if a man or woman add or take anything from the bible, the KJV corrects itself by exposing the addition, or subtraction.

so your statement is false.

so the 1 John 5:7 & * got shot down quick on three person.. Uh?

try something else....

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the bible never condridict itself, and if a man or woman add or take anything from the bible, the KJV corrects itself by exposing the addition, or subtraction.


Agreed the KJV is the most accurate. In order to make a new "version" there must be "changes" so to avoid copyright laws. I don't suppose it will be long before they actually say "trinity" in one of them... thus in this regard it is to some extend "man made".

BTW ... good OP.

THE FIRST DAY:
Genesis 1:3 "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."Genesis 1:4 "And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness."Genesis 1:5 "And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day." (24 hour period)

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Agreed the KJV is the most accurate. In order to make a new "version" there must be "changes" so to avoid copyright laws. I don't suppose it will be long before they actually say "trinity" in one of them... thus in this regard it is to some extend "man made".

BTW ... good OP.

THE FIRST DAY:
Genesis 1:3 "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."Genesis 1:4 "And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness."Genesis 1:5 "And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day." (24 hour period)

Keep up the good work!
Thanks, it's really going to get good in 2022.

you stay blessed in the Lord,

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#4. Genesis 1:14-19 Astronomy, of the luminary, and their effects on the Earth.

Genesis 1:14 "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years".

Genesis 1:15 "And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so".

Genesis 1:16 "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also".

Genesis 1:17 "And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

Genesis 1:18 "And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:19 "And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

these scriptures here are loaded, so we must break them down, but not in full detail, but for the layman to understand..

the reason for the Sun and the moon was to give us the 24hr solar day, and for seasons and signs, but notice these was not made until the 4th CREATION "DAY". but understand this they was CREATED in the beginning. so what am I saying? the sun had not ignited yet. but on day 4 he, GOD, allowed the sun to shine upon the earth. so clearly the 24hr solar day was "not" in effect from CREATION "DAY" one. and as we clearly noted and agreed the the LIGHT in Genesis 1:3 is not sunlight. so we all agree here also.

Now that we have the sun ignited, many of our ecosystem are enacted. one might say well what about day three with the grass and herbs and trees. no problem, listen.
Genesis 1:11 "And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so".

Let is a condition based on something. let's see this condition clearly. Genesis 2:4 "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5 "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground".

that's the condition, before ... " it was IN the ground". and now that the sun is shining all that was in the Ground is now ready to come OUT of the Ground. listen, Genesis 2:6 "But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground".

it had not yet rain so the mist, (water/Moisture) came up from the earth, not from the sky yet because of, (evaporation, the effect of the sun). now the sun is beginning to shine the other ecosystem is now coming into play to develop other plant life to come. the hydrologic cycle, condensation, precipitation, infiltration, runoff, and (evapotranspiration, WHEN PLANTS NOW ESTABLISH ABOVE THE GROUND) set in motion other dormant ecosystem that God have made. (with plants taking in carbon monoxide which rapidly oxidised to form carbon dioxide which is used for photosynthesis in these newly growing plants). other ecosystem is coming into existence and setting the stage for complex LIFE FORMS to come. and just from the shining of the sun sets in motion all these other ecosystem we have on the planet today. see all of this is in our bible. science just put a label on it.

with these effect of the the sun what about the moon, and its affects on the earth? 1. tidal efects. but that only is accomplish for the sun shining. what do I mean. the bible said for days. so to get a solar day, a. first the spinning of the earth itself. for without this spinning, or rotation one could not get a 24hr. solar day. b. by this spinning, or rotation of the earth on its axis's, hence we have the scientific term called precession, which causes the seasons. notice the bible said "for seasons". and by its Orbits, the earth, the moon, and the sun, we have signs. and these signs are set by pedigree and Apogee of the earth from the sun. now signs in the heavens are set which causes eclipse, both of the sun and the moon.

so right in the measure of days, or may I say solar days, we have confirmed scientific terminology of 1. orbit, and in these orbits we have 2. trajectory, which declare signs and wonders. HOW? In the placement of Earth orbit from the sun this is what scientist call pedigree and Apogee. without these set distances, eclipses would not be possible. but with said distance we have different phases of the moon and the sun. yes all of this science is right here in the bible. these trajectory of the moon and the sun in their pedigree and Apogee produce what we see as eclipses of both the sun and the moon. again the bible is confirmed by science.

Also we have the position of the stars, with the movement of the earth and the sun, we have in science what we calls “astronomy” its all there right in the creation account.
Just think for a monument. God said, "let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years"

How can one have seasons without

1. rotation, which causes this planet precession, and in this rotation this planet tilts.

2. and Signs. without "orbits" in apogee or perigee, eclipses are not possible.

3. Days, "rotation", with our star/sun shining.

4. years, "orbits", around of this star/sun of ours, or rather HIS ....

No one would have understood all these things, except the men like the "wise men". so God put language and our development in place to come to these assessments. so the heavens celebrates the CREATION of God.

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#5. Genesis 1:20-23 Water, and some winged Animals.

Now that we have the sun ignited, (Day 4), many of our ecosystem are enacted on Land, and now the oceans systems power by the sun, the rivers, lakes, streams, and ponds, with their ecosystems, all bursting, or teaming now with life. other words, the whole planet is teaming with LIFE. on Land, as well as in the water, and in the Air. now that these ecosystem have been establish, here come more complex life… animals.

One other thing in the fourth day of Creation, Genesis 1:18 "And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good”. The dividing line that separates day and night is called the terminator. which set the stage for living creature for the DAY, and the NIGHT.

Genesis 1:20 "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

Genesis 1:21 "And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:22 "And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

Genesis 1:23 "And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

if one would notice, God said in Genesis 1:20, “Let” the waters, there is the evolution of the species. let the waters. so from God’s first creation comes all the species of water animals. just as he said in Genesis 1:11 that the Earth bring forth. God put the first seeds in the Ground, and the earth brought forth the variety we see today. as was it with the water species.

Verse 20, God said “let the waters bring forth living creatures”. waters here are plural, indicating fresh and salt water, or any other water that may have existed so creatures/animals from both area of waters, each brought forth animals. This is the interesting thing of the fowl, Because they was flying animals that flew in the sky, but was earth bound for reproduction. Supportive scripture, Genesis 1:23b “and let fowl multiply in the earth”. not multiply on the earth, but in the earth. As today, most birds fly in the air or the sky, but are earth bound for reproduction.

One of the distinction of birds from other mammals, there are no mammals with this sort of "hollow" bone structural skeleton. So as God made the fowl of the air, it was a mixture of the water and soil. Hollow with air. So the fowl is a mixture of two worlds that flies in another world. But they have the pleasure of both water and land, and sea. Although birds and mammals they share certain characteristics, birds and mammals are very different animals.

According to Genesis all water based, or structured animals didn’t come from the seas and oceans only, (salt), but a combination of both, mineral compounds (salt also) found in both rocks/land and water.

And each multiply after their “OWN KIND”. here we clearly have a variety, as well as a diversity of the species. It was God hand in shaping, structuring, and or re-structuring these diversity of the species. This is as I said is the evolving of the species, BY GOD. this evolving of species is back up by scripture, John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." so if something changed or came forth it’s God’s allowing it ti come forth. with this diversity of the species, come what we know now is a structural or the re-structuring variety of RNA and DNA.

now to the science group. From reading many scientific papers, there are many modules out there and none are totally supported by all scientist, agreeing on any one module. One paper I read simply told the truth, “scientist don’t know if life started on Land or in the sea”.

My position is this. I can only go on the record what God gave us, because he was here before any of us, and he created it all. Man started on Land before the any animal, land or water. for man was formed Day three. which put to rest, as for as I’m concern, an false notion that a. man came from any animals, and from animals out of the sea, or evolved from land animals. the detailed account in chapter 2 clear that up for me. then came animals with Man. hence the incompatibility of these two type of animals with the MAN. Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him”. and only the woman, another of the man, (himself), was found suitable. so that right there tells us that man didn’t evolve from any animal especially apes. NOT compatible, Genesis 2:19 "And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof." Genesis 2:20 "And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him." so no compatibility with animals, meaning we didn’t come from animals.

fish “below” in the sea and fowl “above” in the sky. But there was no animals “with” the man on the ground.
So God deemed man was not to be alone on the Land., …., Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." Genesis 2:19 "And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof." there it is Man was here before the animals.

Just for argument sake, or a stirring up of the pot for some. In man’s complexity, the woman, or the female, RNA was re-structured to send the new building block to DNA to produce ANOTHER like the man, by God design, for it was God who restructured the Form, shape, or figure of the woman. in that reconstruction was some difference. so encoding was assimilated differently. This is proved out in science. There are some molecules that check the strains of DNA for correct sequence for replication, these enzymes are called polymerase. They check their work, fixing the majority of mispaired bases in a process called proofreading. their are many good articles on this subject. which bring us back to John 1:3b, “ and without him was not any thing made that was made”. the bible just confirm what true science is now just finding out.

which bring us next to Land animals and the making of sexes, MANDKIND, which resulted in reproduction.

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#6. Genesis 1:24 &25 Land and some air animals.

#7. Genesis 1:26-31 the creation of "MANKIND".

the question, is not which came first, the chicken or the egg, (the chicken of course), but was it Man/mankind, or the Land animals that came first?
Genesis 1:24 "And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so."
Genesis 1:25 "And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good."

NOW MAN? or Mankind
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

well lets put this question to bed as to who came first, animals or Man. supportive scripture, Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him."
Genesis 2:19 "And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof." BINGO, Man was here before the Animals. God saw that man was ...... "ALONE"... so he sought out a help meet for him, and ...... out of the Ground, God formed the animals. so man was here before the animals. the only thing, or things what came after the animals was the GENDER, or the Sex of the one man, Woman.
after God formed Man on day 3, he was alone and by himself, now God is making a help meet for him. but understand one thing, the woman was here on day 3 also, but was not manifested until day 6. yes, this is the Pattern of the Godhead. one person, then the ECHAD or the Another to Come. lets explain.

Just as God is the Echad of himself, which is his IMAGE man is the same with Adam, the image of God. God who is one Person in the Beginning, is the ordinal First of himself who is creator and Maker of All things, as Isaiah 44:24 states, "ALONE", and "BY HIMSELF". Adam the man, the CREATION of God, God’s own image pattern of his CREATOR, was alone and by himself also. Just as the ordinal last was foreordain to come, likewise was the woman was foreordain to come from Adam. supportive scripture, Genesis 2:21 "And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;" Genesis 2:22 "And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man." Genesis 2:23 "And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." BINGO, she was in man from day 3 when he was formed, but she was not yet MANIFESTED, just as the ordinal Last, Jesus the Son, who was in God, but was not yet Manifested until the last days, or the Last times, as was the Woman. she was MANIFESTED in the Lat Day…. day 6. BINGO. do one see the pattern? just as Eve the woman who is a MAN, for the term Adam mans Mankind, both Male and female, H120 אָדָם 'adam compare to H121 אָדָם 'Adam, see the difference now.

so the Son, the Son of Man was in God, the ordinal Last to come… supportive scripture, John 8:42 "Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me." that word “proceeded is G1831 ἐξέρχομαι exerchomai (ex-er'-cho-mai) v.to issue.

what’s another word for ISSUE? portion or allotment... or “SHARE” meaning that he’s the EQUAL SHARE of himself, in his own image Man, as the “First”/Father/LORD/Spirit, the Holy Spirit. and the “Last”/Son/Lord/spirit, (the Holy Spirit diversified). supportive scripture, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" and the word "form" here is Nature, and that Nature of the ordinal last is defined in the root of G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') which is G3313 μέρος meros (me'-ros) which means to issue, portion, allotment… “SHARE”. BINGO. how plain can one get. for another word for "issue" is portion, allotment… “SHARE”. so the Lord Jesus is the Holy Spirit, who holds the titles, Father & son.

so man was before the animals, and only MANIFESTED, himself or themselves in the later day, (which was to come, the ANOTHER of HIMSELF) which here was day 6 the last day before God rested. how plain can one get.

as the apostle Paul said by the Holy Spirit, Romans 1:19 "Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them."
Romans 1:20 "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"

so no man has any excuse of not knowing the Godhead, for it was MANIFESTED for you.

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PS next time, Chapter #3. Mankind, filling the Earth, by first having Children in the Garden First, (which account for Cain wife, and the sons of God in chapter 6).

oh this is getting good in 2021..... (smile). as said if anyone thinks I'm in ERROR, just prove me wrong, it's just that simple.
 

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Chapter #3. Mankind, filling the Earth, by first having Children in the Garden, (which account for Cain wife, and the sons of God in chapter 6).

One of the most important key section in the book of Genesis that have been hidden, or misunderstood for centuries is the fact that Adam and Eve had children in the garden before they had Cain and able outside of the garden. this is one of the most overlook pieces of information in the creation account. it is one of the most revealing mystery in the bible, and its right at the beginning of human history. we will look at this revealing factor of this hidden fact, and how it will impact the whole creation story itself.

Beside the claims of a pre-Adamic race, the other people found in Genesis 4:14 whom Cain was afraid of because of what he did, (the killing his brother). we can completely understand who these people are. We believe that these other people are not another race of people, but our own race of people who did not fall, or (disobeyed God). nor died from the effect of sin, (disobedient). We believe that these children born unto Adam and Eve in the garden before the fall into sin are the one whom many calls the “sons of God” in Genesis chapter 6. It seem to be on their part, a simple mistake of identity.

When God, who is the Holy Spirit, formed man on day 3, there was no woman or any other person around. No one knows, only God knows, how long Adam the man was “ALONE” or by himself with his creator. this is key, because it set the stage for the rebuke of evolution, and the gap theory. but it also set the stage for Eve coming into this world, or from Adam life into creation itself.
Because of Adam being along, God made this statement. Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him”. this set the stage for the woman, Eve her beginning with the man that came about on day 6 after the animals. on day 6, God, the Holy Spirit made the “ONE” man into two man, NOT men, but “another” man, meaning another man which is called woman, because she was taken out of the ONE man, the same one man. God did not get more dust and make a man, no. a man out of a man, with her own shape, fashion, and figure. these man, not men, (because they are one). Are the image of God, which is a “diversity” of oneself, and this diversity is the image that was to come, GOD as a MAN. With that said, the woman is made, built for reproduction lets began. Genesis 1:28 "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth”. Put a pin here for a second. many use this word “replenish” to show that there was a pre-Adamic race. Or that there was people here with Adam and Eve. No, that’s an ERROR, replenish, is an old English word used by the KJV to give the understanding, “to fill up”. In today’s language, it means to do it again. but in the original meaning of the word, which can be found at dictionary.com, look under Word Origin and History for re-plen-ish
v. Listen to the definition. mid-14c., from Old French repleniss-, extended present participle stem of replenir "to fill up," from re-, here probably an intensive prefix, + -plenir, from Latin plenus "full". and in the Hebrew, H4390 מָלֵאֵmale' (maw-lay') v. It means 1. to fill. 2. (intransitively) to be full of. So clearly “replenish” means to fill, or fill up the earth with people. We just wanted to clear that word “replenish”.

NOW, THE CHILDREN

Genesis 3:16 "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee".
notice the language being used here.
The Hebrew word for sorrow is H6093 עִצָּבוֹן `itstsabown (its-tsaw-ɓone') n-m.
worrisomeness, i.e. labor or pain.
KJV: sorrow, toil.

and the Hebrew word for conception is, H2032 הֵרוֹן herown (hay-rone') n-m.
הֵרָיוֹן herayown (hay-raw-yone')
pregnancy.
[from H2029]
KJV: conception.

Understand, one cannot multiply, or increase something if it hasn’t already happened. example, if I was sitting in a vehicle, a car for instance. I cannot increase, or multiply my speed in the car unless I'm already in motion. likewise, one cannot increase sorrow, (labor or pain), unless it has already happened. this verse show us that the woman, Eve, already had conception, (pregnancy, with little on no labor or pain), and therefore children form these conceptions.

next time, the Woman name also tells us that she had children.

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The Name that tells us that Adam and Eve had children in the Garden before the fall.

Genesis 3:20 "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living”.
notice the language used here again. the personal name Eve itself lets us know that she had children, in the garden. for the woman was given the name Eve for a reason.Names have meaning. Here, it means she “was” the "MOTHER" of all LIVING, (kjv). “was” is a past tense designation, indicative of the time it eas given. meaning she “was” a mother already at the time she acquired the personal name. This is why she got the name in the first place to identify who she was, “the mother of all living”. that just told us something about all of her children that are to come now, in sin. all her children before she sinned “WAS” alive to God, Spiritually .... alive. now onward, (from the fall), all her children are in sin, meaning they are dead/cut off, spiritually speaking, from God. This is the reason why we, of Adam line must be, have to be, BORN again. the Lord Jesus explains this in John chapter 3 to a man named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews
likewise, with EVE, she, or no one calls anyone mother unless they have living, or had living children before. she was the mother of ALL LIVING, (which eliminates any other race of people outside of her and Adam). why say all living? because all the children she had before the fall into sin was alive spiritually and naturally alive unto God, BETTER KNOWN AS "SONS OF GOD BINGO".

Now a few revelations. by having children in the garden before the fall, one can now understand who those other people was that Cain was afraid of Genesis 4:14. they were his spiritually alive, naturally alive, but now decaying kinfolk. This is why some in the fallen line progress many years in decaying. now the question is, how long was it that Adam and Eve was having children in the garden before the fall?. and how many GENERATIONS of offspring was born before Cain and Able came alone in the fallen state? only God knows. It could have been hundreds, thousand, or even millions of years. Having children in the garden answers the pre-Adamic error, as well as the sons of God in chapter 6.

Please note, there are two lines from Adam, the none fallen line, the sons of God who are Spiritually alive to God, (meaning that still have the Spirit), and mistaken with the fallen angles of Genesis 6. And the fallen line, “US”, who are, or was Spiritually dead to God until he came in our likeness, (his image), which is of him, and redeemed us from sin and death. I receive this clue from this scripture, Ephesians 3:14 "For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named”. whole family? yes, the bible was written to us the fallen line in Adam, this is why we must be in Christ line, the Second or Last Adam, with eternal life, (NO DECAY or entropy). there is no more NATURAL death, nor broken “FELLOWSHIP” in Christ Jesus.

well what about the sons who did not sin and was spiritually alive to God who was born in the Garden? good question, answer, Romans 5:12 "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" yes, even those before the fall tasted DEATH, because of Adam. supportive scripture, Romans 5:14 "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come."
yes, even over them that had not sinned, why?, because they as us came from Adam...... oh so easy, when you have the truth.


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Genesis chapter 6
Part #1.

Genesis 6:1 "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,"Genesis 6:2 "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."

"Who are the Sons of God in Genesis 6"​
Introduction
There has been much debate about who are the sons of God in Genesis chapter 6. from fallen angels to the sons of Seth. from these theories come more untruths, and twisted doctrines, and books selling off the shelves right and left based on these non-truths. but what do the bible tells us about who these sons of God are. we have the knowledge of who they are, but we will first disprove who these sons of God are NOT. number one they are not fallen angels, nor are they the sons of Seth. who are these sons of God? the first place we will look, in support of the fallen angel theory is the book of Job. most go here to support their fallen angel theory. but the book of Job will be their down fall. in the book of Job many used these scriptures to support their fallen angel theory. Job 1:6, Job 2:1, and Job 38:7. these we will deal with first. the Seth line is found in Genesis chapter 5. the stage is set for who the sons of God are.

The bible will surprise you, revealing who these sons of God are NOT in Genesis 6, and also in the book of Job. in Genesis 6 they are not angels. neither in Job 1:6, 2:1, and 38:7. we will tell you who the sons of God are in Genesis 6. they are the children, the offspring that Adam and Eve had in the Garden, before they had Cain and Able outside the garden. and in the book of Job at chapter 1 and 2 these sons are men and women who kept God rules and regulations. and in Job chapter 38, here the sons of God are not men, or women, nor angels, but the actual sun, moon, and the stars in the heavens. now before you say I’m crazy, let put the evidence on the table and see if the word of God support what I have just said. Let the scriptures SPEAK.

the book of Job, First. "the metaphor"
Job 38:4 "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? 8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb? 9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it, 10 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors, 11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?”.

the Almighty, the creator of heaven, and earth is asking Job some question that Job cannot answer, or any man, also neither any angle. but God has answered it already in Job 38:7 “When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”. Here is what most people say, see this prove that it was the angles. NO, NOT so fast. Question, who really are these “morning stars”, and the sons of God that sang, and shouted. Let’s see who and what they are. it's a metaphor.

Let’s go first to the book of James, and get our answer. Follow and understand. James 1:17 "Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning”. The almighty is called the “Father” of lights, and lights here is plural, and is the Greek word, G5457 φῶς phos (fōs') n. which means luminousness. Now hold that thought and go to Thayer's Greek Definitions and or the blue letter bible, look up G3962 πατήρ pater, (Father)
- Transliteration: Pater
- Phonetic: pat-ayr'
- Definition:
1. generator or male ancestor
a. either the nearest ancestor: father of the corporeal nature, natural fathers, both parents.
THIS IS WHAT MOST PEOPLE THINK WHEN THEY HEAR THE WORD “FATHER”.

but we are interested in the 3rd definition, and here it is, listen.
3. God is called the Father
a. of the stars, the heavenly luminaries, because he is their creator, upholder, ruler

God is the Father of the “STARS”, and the heavenly luminaries. Yes, the literal stars in the sky. google the word stars, please add the “s” to the end of stars, for Job said, morning “stars” not morning “star”. the stars are the actual stars in the heavens. Now, go to dictionary.com, or the free dictionary, or any dictionary and look up luminaries in the plural a celestial body, as the sun or moon. Now let’s see this sun and moon and the actual stars and what they did in Job 38:7. Remember the Almighty said that they sang and shouted for joy. Let’s see this metaphor clearly. Psalms 148:1 "Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the LORD from the heavens: praise him in the heights. Verse 2 Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts. 3 Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light. 4 Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens. 5 Let them praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, and they were created”. Now what do the word praise mean here? It is the Hebrew word, H1984 הָלַל halal (haw-lal') v. which can be translated as “sing”, or “shine”. See the stars, the sun and the moon sang or praised God by shining their lights, (on day 4). it all a metaphor. listen, Psalms 65:13 "The pastures are clothed with flocks; the valleys also are covered over with corn; they shout for joy, they also sing”. The pastures, and valleys also praising God? Yes, how? by shouting for joy and singing. It’s all a metaphor. Do we now understand.


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Genesis chapter 6
Part #2.

Genesis 6:1 "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,"Genesis 6:2 "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
"the sons of God"​
Let’s move on to Job 1:6 & Job 2:1. Job 1:6 "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them”. Here, some say that this presentation was in heaven of the angles. Now Job 2:1 "Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD”. they came together and presented themselves before the LORD. Yes, here on Earth. this is nothing unusual, Joshua 24:1 "And Joshua gathered all the tribes of Israel to Shechem, and called for the elders of Israel, and for their heads, and for their judges, and for their officers; and they presented themselves before God”. this presenting of the heads of Israel was on earth, and not in heaven. Likewise, the sons of God in Job 1:6, and 2:1 was “earth born” men/sons of God who presented themselves before God here on PLANET EARTH. One very important scripture also in the book of Job as to who a son of God is was revealed to us clearly, Job himself and his faithful friends. listen, Job 1:3 "His substance also was seven thousand sheep, and three thousand camels, and five hundred yoke of oxen, and five hundred she asses, and a very great household; so that this man was the greatest of all the men of the east”. if one will read, starting at Job 1:1 we would know that this is speaking of the man Job. in verse 3 the word “Men” there is the Hebrew word, H1121 בֵּן ben (bane) which means sons as in Genesis 6:2. but one might say these are not sons of God “Ben HaElohim. Let’s stop here and think about something. What is the subject here? Job and his friends presenting themselves before God. Is this strange that Satan came among them? No, it has happened before. Scripture, Genesis 3:1 "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?”. Here Adam and Eve are the children of God, H1121 בֵּן ben (bane) which means sons, for Eve is also an Adam, Man/mankind. But what’s so interesting is the use of words in expressing who Job was. Notice the verse states, “so that this man was the greatest of all the men of the east”. Here “man”, and “men” are used in the same verse. Why didn’t the bible use the Hebrew word, H582 אֱנוֹשׁ 'enowsh (en-oshe') n-m. for men? It means,
אֲנָשִׁים 'enowsh (en-oshe') [plural]
1. (properly) a mortal (and thus differing from the more dignified H120).
2. (hence) a man in general (singly or collectively).

Looking at definition #1, was not Job a mortal man? And why not use H376 אִישׁ 'iysh (eesh) n-m or אִישִׁים 'iysh (eesh) plural for men of the east instead of “sons”/ H1121 בָּנִים baniym (ba-neem') in the plural. H376 אִישׁ 'iysh means a man as an individual or a male person. It is the contracted for H582, Which simply means a mortal or a man in general. STOP, THIS JUST TOLD US JOB NOR HIS FRIENDS WERE NOT JUST MORTAL MEN IN GENERAL. By using the definition of H1121, instead of H582 אֱנוֹשׁ 'enowsh, that without a doubt is saying something and making a statement about Job and his friends that is not made by men in general. No, this man Job is a son of God, let’s see it clearly. Romans 5:14 "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come”. there were some men “AFTER” Adam who did not sin as he did. Now I wonder who some of those men were, maybe just maybe Job and his friends? I am convinced without a doubt that some of these men are Job and his friends/brothers/sons of the east, who are sons of God.

Here is my proof that Job was a son of God. In the very first verse it states that Job is a Man, and the word used there is H376 אִישׁ 'iysh (eesh) n-m. meaning, a man as an individual or a male person. But in verse 3 the proper use of men here should have been, אִישִׁים 'iysh (eesh) the plural of man, which is “men”. No, God used H1121 בָּנִים baniym (ba-neem') in the plural, meaning “sons”, as in Genesis chapter 6.

#1. Man
H376 אִישׁ 'iysh (eesh) n-m.
אִישִׁים 'iysh (eesh) [plural]
a man as an individual or a male person.
contracted for H582.

H582 אֱנוֹשׁ 'enowsh (en-oshe') n-m.
אֲנָשִׁים 'enowsh (en-oshe') [plural]
1. (properly) a mortal (and thus differing from the more dignified H120).
2. (hence) a man in general (singly or collectively).

#2 Sons
H1121 בֵּן ben (bane) n-m.
בָּנִים baniym (ba-neem') [plural]
a son (as a builder of the family name).
from H1129

H1129 בָּנָה banah (baw-naw') v.
to build.
{literally and figuratively}
[a primitive root]
KJV: (begin to) build(-er), obtain children, make

conclusion, Looking at the definitions above, clearly God is telling us that Job and these other men of the EAST are not just only men in general, mortal yes, but these men have a title, “sons of God”. This title is given to men and women who life God is pleased with. Job and his friends was reprove of God which is one of the qualification of a son of God, scripture, Hebrews 12:6 "For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 "If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons”.

This is what the whole book of Job is all about, Hebrews 12:6 "For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 "If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons”.

if God didn’t love these men/sons then they are bastards, and not sons as Hebrews points out. and from Job account, Job caught some chastement I don't believe some of us today could take, he lost everything, but gain the more.

Job 1:8 "And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?”. This verse says it all.


1. a perfect man? scripture, Matthew 5:48 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."

2. one that feareth God? scripture, Acts 13:26 "Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent."

3. and escheweth evil, or put away evil? scripture, Ephesians 4:30 "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption."Ephesians 4:31 "Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:"

it's all there in the bible as to who and what a son of God is. AND THEY ARE NOT ANGELS HERE IN GENESIS 6.

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