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Very well said Grailhunter. You are absolutely correct in what you have said. Even though I live in Canada, I have several connections to the USA (having also lived and worked there), and I have supported President Trump all along. Unfortunately, he managed to surround himself with traitors and cowards. And the only way to deal with cowards (who then become bullies) is to stand up to them. Since all legal avenues to maintain the republic have failed, this will now lead to bloodshed.

"this will now lead to bloodshed" - I wonder if this is the thinking of the revolutionaries.

If peoples minds have been flipped, the anger released by good debate and points are not enough.
I have seen shifted mindsets at work, and the anger trigger set off by disagreeing with their world view.

It is a mental illness in a sense, because the enemy is an accusation of what might be without foundation, and a crime of fraud which does not exist.
Winning the continued declaration of what is reality is the only way through, because these folk will be violent unless opposed verbally.

Words brought creation into existence, and matter as much as life itself.
Jesus calls us to the way of peace and living in harmony with our fellow man.

God bless you
 

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I thought the person who started a thread had the right to have it locked if they requested it, have the rules changed ?
Just asking ?
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I don't think there is a rule pertaining to locking threads.
Perhaps out of courtesy they will lock it at the member's request.
Same as deleting a thread....the way I view it is that as long as there is interest in the topic matter being shared without arguments then leave it open for other members to continue discussions. Whoever started the thread can leave it at anytime.
A thread is primarily locked by moderators due to strife, anger and unedifying rhetoric taking place between members.
However, some have been locked at the request of the original poster because of conflict.
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My fellow Christians...
You need to be prepared for what is going to come next. My involvement with this is more than you would ever believe.
There is a a possibility that everyone may lay down for the communist and atheist regime of the democrats.
But then maybe not.
The founding fathers were not unfamiliar of the possibility of this very thing. A government that could turn tyrannical.
With all that has happened, it has brought to light that Washington DC has lost its way. Not only the politicians but also the various agencies of the government.
This is why the founding fathers felt that it was so important for the citizens of this country to remain armed.
Don't tread on me! Government for the people, by the people.
The Declaration of Independence ..When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Corruption as far as we can see it...it is a fact.
They knew that it was a possibility that the government would lose its way and it would be up to the people to reset the government. Know for sure that the government is not prepared for a full on slot of the people.
When it comes down to it, as we can see, Washington is full of cowards. They say they are not intimidated, know for sure and certain that they are! They are all fine with the communists showing up at Josh Hawley's house, but when the patriots show up at their house, it will be a different story.
Prayer is a wonderful thing but during the American Revolutionary War and the World Wars God called on those people that were willing to put their lives on the line for what was right....Freedom and Liberty and the American way. Just like in the Old Testament God called on His chosen to be His champions. President Trump with the exception of some Republicans and few others, stands alone against a government as God's champions and they face a government that is full of corruption and those that have communist and atheist initiatives.
We cannot support them by our votes alone anymore because they have control of the voting system and they have no regard to law or the U.S. Constitution.
So we need to prepared to fight for our country. Or be prepared to lay down for the communist and the atheist government.
It is only a fair warning, it does not end here! Be prepared! We are at the point now that Trump alone cannot continue the fight alone.
We can choose to fight for our country...or not. And let it fall to the communist atheists. That is our choice, that is our choice for our children. We should support President Trump by any and all means necessary or let it fall. It is going to go one way or the other, our choice.

"Corruption as far as we can see it...it is a fact."

Pomposity - the fact is Trump has created polarisation around him as an individual, and said simply if he loses that is corruption.
Hitler did the same, and every other dictator in history. The mindset creates followers who will murder with impunity to serve their leader.
ISIS did this with the caliphate, so these emotions and ideas are powerful and must at all costs be opposed, where ever they occur, because once they take hold, you get a war that kills 100,000's and progresses nothing, literally nothing, other than insane levels of death.

The pomposity is that Trump would try this in an open democracy with free speech, and the most intelligent and analytical people on the planet.
How many "christians" also nailed their colours to the Trump mast, prophets declaring the Lord of all creation, through them was prophesying Trump is King. You can see in feudal countries how this rips through a population and can carry all before it.

One problem with social media is it can create the breeding ground to make the lies and propoganda appear real, which is where the term "fake news" was the first rung on the agenda to overthrow democracy and change the focus of the people to sources that just amplify the dictators view.
The only valid news stream is that which agrees with the dictator. Once you have this level of control you can rule with impunity.

America regarded itself above such a position, but like all things, any system is vulnerable to attack, unless defended.
Likewise as believers we must be wise, and know our loyalty is to Jesus and following His ways and not the whims of dictators or causes that lead to violence. We do not fear the enemy, we love them, even if they kill us.

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"this will now lead to bloodshed" - I wonder if this is the thinking of the revolutionaries.
Do you know how many innocent people have been beaten and attacked because they were Trump supporters in the last 4 years?
They have been terrorized, vandalized, threatened, shot or shot at.....and no outcry from the left or media.
The democratic supporters had already formed an organization of members who pledged to burn down the White House if Trump won.
There was nothing in the lame news about it....no reprimand from the democratic politicians to abandon any such actions.
No rather people like Maxine Waters were going around holding public meetings telling their supporters to harass all Trump supporters, in restaurants, at their homes, their jobs....etc...and Rand Paul was seriously injured by his neighbor who hated Trump.
Then there was the Senator who was shot while attending a baseball game ....by a democratic supporter.
And let's remember the businesses destroyed and set on fire by antifa and BLM groups...
The civil war has already been happening only it was coming from one side only...the left....now the Republicans are getting involved to protect our freedoms and our rights and to stand against the tyranny of our government.
 

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Pomposity - the fact is Trump has created polarisation around him as an individual, and said simply if he loses that is corruption.
You are not very well informed....
Hillary said that if she loses it is because Trump colluded with Russia and we have since learned that Hillary paid to have this Russia collusion hoax started against Trump.
Obama said if Trump won the election impeachment would begin immediately after he was sworn in.
You really don't understand what is happening and all the comments you are regurgitating from liberal Trump haters in the media honestly causes your credibility to fall below any level of trustworthiness.
 

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I'd love to know where the idea that VP Pence could just unilaterally dismiss a state's electoral vote certification came from, assuming it was more widespread than a Trump thoughtless rambling. I'm pretty sure that Al Gore would so dearly love to have been able to declare Florida's certification of 25 electoral votes for George W. Bush null and void back in 2000 if he had the power to do so.
 
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I'd love to know where the idea that VP Pence could just unilaterally dismiss a state's electoral vote certification came from, assuming it was more widespread than a Trump thoughtless rambling. I'm pretty sure that Al Gore would so dearly love to have been able to declare Florida's certification of 25 electoral votes for George W. Bush null and void back in 2000 if he had the power to do so.
In the event that the election had to be decided by Congress if there is a tie...The VP casts the tie breaking vote
 

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My fellow Christians...
You need to be prepared for what is going to come next. My involvement with this is more than you would ever believe.
There is a a possibility that everyone may lay down for the communist and atheist regime of the democrats.
But then maybe not.
The founding fathers were not unfamiliar of the possibility of this very thing. A government that could turn tyrannical.
With all that has happened, it has brought to light that Washington DC has lost its way. Not only the politicians but also the various agencies of the government.
This is why the founding fathers felt that it was so important for the citizens of this country to remain armed.
Don't tread on me! Government for the people, by the people.
The Declaration of Independence ..When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Corruption as far as we can see it...it is a fact.
They knew that it was a possibility that the government would lose its way and it would be up to the people to reset the government. Know for sure that the government is not prepared for a full on slot of the people.
When it comes down to it, as we can see, Washington is full of cowards. They say they are not intimidated, know for sure and certain that they are! They are all fine with the communists showing up at Josh Hawley's house, but when the patriots show up at their house, it will be a different story.
Prayer is a wonderful thing but during the American Revolutionary War and the World Wars God called on those people that were willing to put their lives on the line for what was right....Freedom and Liberty and the American way. Just like in the Old Testament God called on His chosen to be His champions. President Trump with the exception of some Republicans and few others, stands alone against a government as God's champions and they face a government that is full of corruption and those that have communist and atheist initiatives.
We cannot support them by our votes alone anymore because they have control of the voting system and they have no regard to law or the U.S. Constitution.
So we need to prepared to fight for our country. Or be prepared to lay down for the communist and the atheist government.
It is only a fair warning, it does not end here! Be prepared! We are at the point now that Trump alone cannot continue the fight alone.
We can choose to fight for our country...or not. And let it fall to the communist atheists. That is our choice, that is our choice for our children. We should support President Trump by any and all means necessary or let it fall. It is going to go one way or the other, our choice.

"prepared to fight for our country"
"Trump alone cannot continue the fight alone"
"support President Trump by any and all means"

the enemy are
"fall to the communist atheists"

The clear definition of this fight is a polarised insanity, of losing against the enemy, communist atheists and the messiah is Trump.
So a failed property tycoon, who has made no money for 15 years according to his tax returns is the messiah of America.

Or rather a salesman who sells the story that peoples failed dreams he can bring to success. He is good at rallies, just like Hitler, and he knows how to ramble on and on about all the battles he is facing and how corrupt the enemy is, just like Hitler. At what point do you realise this is just literally a dictator in the making and you are just supporting this man, nothing to do with anything else.

God bless you

I think Grailhunter represents the thinking behind this insane movement, and has nothing to support it but hot air.
But equally this hot air can kill many people if made into reality, which historically these nutcases have become.
 

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The clear definition of this fight is a polarised insanity, of losing against the enemy, communist atheists and the messiah is Trump.
So a failed property tycoon, who has made no money for 15 years according to his tax returns is the messiah of America.
This is your personal opinion and self proclaimed truth according to you.
That's the power of social media, public forums, and news outlets....they can say whatever they want about someone and the viewers/readers believe it unless they choose to educate themselves and do their own research.
So you have called him the messiah of America...that is very antichrist in nature. There is only one Messiah over America and that is Jesus Christ...the only begotten son of God.
 

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Thread unlocked. The discussion isn't over. Here is a witness to the events today.


I got to laugh, "its not about Trump".

So you turn up to a protest about "Stop the steal" which is just about Trump losing the election while claiming he won while only losing apparently because of fraud. The lambs running along are innocent, God fearing, loving gentle folk, supporting their man, who unjustly is standing against the communist atheists who will turn beautiful USA into a pit of communism and death.

This is total self deception.

God bless you
 

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This is your personal opinion and self proclaimed truth according to you.
That's the power of social media, public forums, and news outlets....they can say whatever they want about someone and the viewers/readers believe it unless they choose to educate themselves and do their own research.
So you have called him the messiah of America...that is very antichrist in nature. There is only one Messiah over America and that is Jesus Christ...the only begotten son of God.

So you want civil war to defend Trump from not being the next president?
And its justification is because he declares there was fraud. And you are prepared to die for this cause?

And without Trump the USA will be ruled by communists and atheists?

Sounds like a Messiah who you believe will deliver you from satan and hell on earth.
And it sounds not about repentance, love and forgiveness, so its spirit is not from Jesus.

By the way this is not my personal opinion, I am just stating observed facts. If you want a different reality, you have to propose proven alternative facts or you are just inventing stuff. There is no other alternative, it is the power of truth.

God bless you
 
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Sounds like a Messiah who you believe will deliver you from satan and hell on earth.
And it sounds not about repentance, love and forgiveness, so its spirit is not from Jesus.
Again, you are creating your own false narrative. Smh...
Let me spell it out for you.....my Constitutional Rights are being attacked and I will not just sit and watch our government destroy our rights and freedoms.
And for your information I have lived through 10 different presidents.... it isn't about them.
I can't stand politics...but I love my country...and I have grandchildren who are going to be the ones affected most by the next 2 presidential administrations
 

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This is how the mainstream media reports the news. I said exactly why I would become involved in defending myself. But you are creating your own narrative of what I said....shame on you.

Trump support is a single issue support. Trump is a liar who wants to create either you support him or are the enemy.
You have your own narrative, I am just declaring what is going down. It is this clear cut. Trump is this kind of guy, and manipulator.
 

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Again, you are creating your own false narrative. Smh...
Let me spell it out for you.....my Constitutional Rights are being attacked and I will not just sit and watch our government destroy our rights and freedoms.
And for your information I have lived through 10 different presidents.... it isn't about them.
I can't stand politics...but I love my country...and I have grandchildren who are going to be the ones affected most by the next 2 presidential administrations

I am confused. What rights are you talking about?
Is this linked to covid, wearing masks, restricting business and personal travel?
God bless you
 

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If I ruled the world, I would give up.

I do not know why anyone thinks if they were the leader, things would be different.
They would realise a small group might like you, but most will just moan and complain about everything, literally, you do, and the historians will not be generous. And it will cost you, just to have your name in the books. And worst still, when you look back at what you had to do, you will break into pieces over what you had to do.

Oppenheimer came to the president, tortured over creating the atomic bomb and all those will die as a result. He was talking to a President who sent people to their deaths daily for a cause against nutcase Hitler, and the Japanese, wondering which route would lose fewer lives. He got really annoyed at Oppenheimer because he had no clue to the impossible nature of what laid before him.

I am glad I am just a voice, able to sing praise to God and preach learn to love your neighbour as yourself, love your kids, family and those you meet friends and enemies, and things will go well with you.

God bless you
 

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Trump support is a single issue support. Trump is a liar who wants to create either you support him or are the enemy.
You have your own narrative, I am just declaring what is going down. It is this clear cut. Trump is this kind of guy, and manipulator.
You keep coming back to Trump and making it about him ....it goes beyond him or biden or whoever...my only concern is for our Constitution.
 

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I am confused. What rights are you talking about?
Is this linked to covid, wearing masks, restricting business and personal travel?
God bless you
We the people by majority vote elect those who serve in our government...no political party or individual has the right to create fraud on the people for the sake of winning an election.
The majority of Americans do not want the liberal agenda ruling our country.
 
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