Presidential Election Live Coverage 2020

Heart2Soul said:

We the people by majority vote elect those who serve in our government...no political party or individual has the right to create fraud on the people for the sake of winning an election.
The majority of Americans do not want the liberal agenda ruling our country.

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But you have not proven there was fraud. It has been shown there are problems, as with all elections, but no massive fraud alleged.

Now if you want to call christians who are conservative, republicans whose job it is to discover and show fraud, liars, then there is no hope.
The USA is very sensitive to voter fraud and the systems used to combat it, which is why systems are checked, verified, tested etc.

Let me put this another way. The one thing that is sensitive to a fraud accusation is the election process, because it is so vast and difficult to check and control. So if you want to blacken the name of the opposition and their power, cry fraud.

Mitch McConnel pointed out both Democrats and Republicans since 2000 have used this tactic each election, when they lose.


Do you believe Mitch or is he lying like the rest?
And if Mitch is wrong, who is right and which form of government do you want? It is not the USA anymore.

Lindsay Graham his view on the election


Here is a comedian summarising the story line.

Think of the problem. A man stands at the centre of power, waving a flag representing Trump, what should we say.
The protesters did not mean this to be the reality of the cause or movement?

But outsiders cannot tell the difference between all are seditious, or only the small group who stood waving the flag.
Unfortunately everyone who supports the flag becomes a supporter of this sedition.

It is playing with fire, literally and people will get burnt, badly.

I have purposely withheld my comments on this thread for some time now.... but I really feel led to state that ANY ONE commenting on this thread OUTSIDE of USA... at this time...is only serving to cause more division and strife... Many Americans are GRIEVING a real loss at this time... and it is our job as Christians to stand with them in prayer.... ENOUGH has been said and counter said. This is the time for NON AMERICANS to step back.

@FollowHim I have made no secret of the fact that I have enjoyed reading many of your contributions... I suffered great lashings for that... I share some of your views regarding things... but not all. In the name of PEACE... I am asking you to please refrain from this conversation at this time...as a sister in Christ... Please allow the time for GRIEF to be felt and dealt with... There is truly nothing more you can add to this discussion. I speak from humility... and I plead to your mercy.
Tenderly... Your sister in Christ.

It's amazing though how all those Senators that were ready to oppose, under extreme duress and fear, were able to rewrite their change of heart in such little time.
It's also amazing how the Capital police just happened to be awol knowing that there was a pre-planned event at the Capital at 1PM.

Look, we all know this was planned. And the ones who broke the door and windows and furniture were not Trump supporters.
There are many videos and eyewitnesses that can testify to this, but we see now that truth is dead and signed affidavits don't mater.
There was already a group of people at the Capital before Trump made his speech. Most with backpacks and gas gear..
not many Patriots showed up in riot gear out of the hundreds of thousands that showed up.
But facts don't matter.

All that matters is, BLM and Anteefa conduct peaceful protests while burning, looting and murdering people. Attacking police and destroying private property, taking over government buildings.. and that's ok.
Trump supporters who are concerned about the integrity of our voting system and want to show support for the rule of law,
well.. these are the terrorists.

Of course you must remember Bush Jr's Patriot act which declared constitutionalists and patriots on the terror watch list..
you don't? oh yes it's true.

The only thing Trump could do and did do was give the American people a heads up that this day was coming. And now it's here.
How we deal with it is yet to be seen.

Do we allow Anteefa and BLM to control fear over our daily lives? Do we allow Governors to control our livelihood our children and our health?
Lots of choices will have to be made in the coming years.
But for now.. I still haven't heard the fat lady sing..
I still have some popcorn left..
and I'm going to watch and see how the next 14 days play out. I mean, what's 2 weeks?
It aint over till it's over..

Hugs

UNITED COMMUNIST STATES OF AMERICA! LOL

April_Rose said:

I'm sick of politics for the most part. Mike Pence let me down and I somewhat lost respect in the president

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Luke 24:20-21 And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him. But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.

Things look dark right now.

But brighter days are ahead.

Luke 21:28
And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Romans 15:13

Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.

Josho said:

And I also want to say violence is the wrong way, it is not the answer, and it is not the correct way to evangelize, what these protestors did today, would turn more people away from Jesus rather than towards him.

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... if you don't like violence, then STOP ANTIFA. -- OR if you DO like violence, ignore the fact that ANTIFA instigated, incited, and was INSTRUMENTAL in breaking the doors into the Capital Building, and then go ahead and accuse Trump's Supporters for what ANTIFA was responsible for.


Whew,
Bobby Jo

FollowHim said:

What are you scared of?
You need to learn the language of the youth and speak Jesus to them.

Formalism is dead, completely. Emotionalism is our culture and politics. Jesus speaks powerfully here, but those who are a total mess inside have nothing, will be washed away, and rightly so.

It is right to have an army assault rifle to kill 30 people before they reach me. What? It is this kind of logic worked in the wild west, but not in the modern world of integrated society and care.

The fact that pastors do not know to love your enemy is to know Jesus, is the end of their assemblies. Change is coming.

God bless you

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Yes change is coming and not for the better. The church is about to face persecution in America. Conservatives are about to face persecution in America. Woe to those who call evil good. Evil has won the day. Believers like yourself have been fooled. Our constitution is about to be destroyed by the left.

All you have to do is is listen to Warnok and what he has to say. This will tell you all you need to know about pastors preaching hatred.

Yes change is coming and the believers that support it will as those in Germany who did not understand vuntil it was too late.

Barbara said:

Seriously, do you remember what you wrote on the threads last night, you were glorifying what was going on. You simply have turned it right around in the above post. You made a point that Jesus instigated violence and endeavoured to justify it all. You classed the response last night as being something heroic !
You were revelling in it all.
I wondered what you would come on and say, but must admit I wasn’t expecting that!
Rita

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I'm a pacifist. I don't like guns, but promote them and own them. I don't like violence, but promote it for RIGHTEOUSNESS (no different than Jesus overthrowing the money-changer tables and whipping the livestock from the Temple), and only participate in nonphysical situations, -- but if absolutely necessary, I will ardently defend myself. And in the case of the Washington Rally, it seems reasonable for Patriots to "throw the tea overboard". And of course I found it interesting that where I personally wouldn't have "thrown the tea overboard", so too apparently Trump Supporters are basically of the same mindset, -- as it apparently was ANTIFA Instigators who were inciting and most likely perpetuating the incursion into the Capital Building.

But what you missed, is the TRUTH. -- And that "TRUTH" wasn't what I was proposing, but was what the LYING NEWS was ACCUSING. And they ACCUSED the Trump Supporters of what the ANTIFA INFILTRATORS were apparently responsible for. And what you MISSED, is that apparently the Trump Supporters were calling these individuals carrying out these acts: "TRAITORS".

But at the same time that we both watch history unfold, I try to consider various perspectives; and equally recognize that you don't!

With Best Regards,
Bobby Jo

FollowHim said:

I do not hate. Describing what Trump is doing is not bad mouthing him. 3000+ a day dying and silence. Is that how you lead and show care?

In the UK covid new variant is going nuts. Nothing is stopping it. Lock down now in force hoping this works.
A few more mutations and who is our leaders will matter little. There is no normal at the moment. We need God's forgiveness and grace,
God bless you

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Yes and how well are all the resrictions working? They didn't. Trump did the only thing that would really work. And that is pave the way for the vaccine.

People are dying all over the world despite draconian restrictions. Trump is the guy who really did something about it. Now we are talking about about throwing people in jail for not obeying on COVID. For a virus that is only dangerous to 1% of the people! AND we have a vaccine! The world has gone insane and the left is going to take us down a road if destruction. You wait and see.

FollowHim said:

The end of the week you will see how ugly this pans out. If it goes south, armed groups start up, martial law will come into force, but not the Trump side.

Unless you have a winning hand you play the long game, unless you are very, very dumb. You do not take on the state, you will lose.

I hope and pray for peace and people stay away. There is no Jericho or falling down walls, just deluded prosperity gospel preachers putting their necks in a noose. God help them

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Trump is calling for peace. Did you happen to notice the difference between Trump and the left? The left excused the violence on their side. Poo pood it away. Refused to ask for help. Let it run rampant. Made no efforts at all to stop it. But TRUMP has done the exact opposite and called for peace and brought in the national guard. The exact opposite of what the left did.

As things move forward there will be a backlash like you've never seen. Trump supporters will be attacked. Conservatives will be shut down. Thier businesses will be attacked. Christian schools will be shut down or have to teach what the left demands. Persecution is on its way and you will support it.

Heart2Soul said:

The church has been suffering persecution since it was established by Jesus.
Evil never wins....I have a secret weapon and His Name is Jesus, Yeshua, Lion of Judah, Lord of Lords and King of Kings.....
In the Word He tells us not to fear when these times of sorrow come....only to trust in Him and know He has already won the victory. The Battle belongs to the Lord and He will arise victorious over Satan and his army of demons.
Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world! Amen!

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Yes I agree. The Bible is clear on what we will suffer. What galls me is believers who stand on the side of those who will persecute the believers. They are so bound to the left that they have become blind. They too will eventually be swept away and will weep tears of regret and repentance or will turn from God to follow the god of this world thinking they are doing right.

Yes we will be victorious in the end. But we will suffer much before then.

FollowHim said:

Trump the higher they rise up the bigger the fall.
Lost the election yet he still says it was stolen, even when he has won no court cases to show this is true.

There is no other word than sedition to summarise this. A sad sad day that so many americans fall for it.

God bless you

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Changing election laws WITHOUT legislative approval IS cheating. It's a violation of the constitution. And it's a sad day when law no longer matters. The Democrats have shown thier lawlessness. And this is the party in power.