JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

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Thats why I just prefer the Holy Spirit, takes human pride out of the equation.
Joh 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. - See above..

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
GINOLJC, to all.
First, thanks for the reply, second, correct... "takes human pride out of the equation". and take religious denominations and their creeds that don't line up with the bible out the door.

and you left out the next important verse after...
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you."

because the Lord Jesus, the Holy Ghost, will guide us in ALL TRUTH, and none left out. John 16:13 "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come."

John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

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I do not agree with everything he believes.
May I ask you, what do you do with these scriptures of proclamation...

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
GREAT,

So the GREAT ONE PERSON IS REVEAILED.
Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

(which is, and which was, and which is to come?), one person, three dispensation, the same as "I AM, THAT, I AM"

Revelation 1:4 "John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;" Revelation 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,"

A. "from him which is, and which was, and which is to come". is this the Father? (as some say the first Person in the Godhead?)

B. "and
from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;". is this the Holy Spirit? (as some say the third Person in the Godhead?)

C. ""And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness". well that's a give me. (as some say the second Person in the Godhead?)


NO, it's the same one Person. lets see....


I know some will say I’m on a trail to disprove the trinity, NO, I’m NOT, let the scriptures fall where they may. John is giving us a clear vetting process as to who the one person that sent this letter to the seven churches, via his angel, to John. Remember this is a revelation of …. Jesus the Christ.

This one person hold all these identifying Appellation, or Epithet, or titles, , which are mention above. this changes the whole dynamic of the book as we once believed, and the way we should read and understand this book. If the Lord Jesus holds all these identifying Appellation, or Epithet, or titles, then one will have to consider what they believe. but leaving that alone, Lets follow the Appellation, and the Epithet, or titles, and see if this is the one same person.

A.
#1. him, “which is, and which was, and which is to come". is this the Lord Jesus?.

Evidence #1. Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty”. So the “which is, and which was, and which is to come” is A. the Almighty, B. the Alpha and the Omega, and C. the Lord.

Revelation 4:8 "And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which is, and which was, and which is to come”. Again the which is, and which was, and which is to come is the Lord God Almighty.

Revelation 11:17 "Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned".

So clearly we see that him, “which art, and wast, and art to come“, it the Lord God Almighty. But is this JESUS? lets see,

#2. him, the “Seven Spirits”. is this the Lord Jesus also?

Evidence #1. Revelation 3:1 "And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead”.
We know that this is the Lord Jesus who is addressing the church in Sardis, and he, the “Lord” Jesus said that he has the “Seven Spirits”.

Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth”. BINGO, “which are the seven Spirits of God ”. so it is the Lord JESUS. for he stood/resurrected. and his Spirit sent into the earth is the Holy Ghost.

the one who have the seven Spirits is the Same one who is the First and the Last,
Revelation 1:17 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Revelation 1:18 "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death". the only one who was dead and live evermore is JESUS.

So the the one who have the seven Spirit is the First and the Last who is the Lord God Almighty, who is the Alpha and Omega.
Revelation 22:13 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last”. who is the “First & Last?”, the Lord God Almighty. BINGO, that confirm who is the Lord God Almighty is, JESUS.

And lastly, “the true witness”, that’s a no brainier, a give me. The Lord Jesus.

The only person who is the central theme of this book, REVELATION, is the Lord Jesus, who is the Spirit, and God is a Spirit (John 4:24a). what's not here is three seperate and distinct persons. THIS IS NOT 101G, BUT THE BIBLE. we willl see this clearly later on in the chapter.

and to Make sure that the Lord Jesus is the Spirit the Holy Spirit who sent his spirit into the Earth... Read all the seven Letters to the churches, and it's the Lord Jesus addressing them all right... right. but notice how each end, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. "

the Spirit? yes, and there is only ONE Spirit, who is God..... John 4:24 "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."


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GREAT,

So the GREAT ONE PERSON IS REVEAILED.
Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

(which is, and which was, and which is to come?), one person, three dispensation, the same as "I AM, THAT, I AM"

Revelation 1:4 "John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;" Revelation 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,"

A. "from him which is, and which was, and which is to come". is this the Father? (as some say the first Person in the Godhead?)

B. "and
from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;". is this the Holy Spirit? (as some say the third Person in the Godhead?)

C. ""And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness". well that's a give me. (as some say the second Person in the Godhead?)


NO, it's the same one Person. lets see....


I know some will say I’m on a trail to disprove the trinity, NO, I’m NOT, let the scriptures fall where they may. John is giving us a clear vetting process as to who the one person that sent this letter to the seven churches, via his angel, to John. Remember this is a revelation of …. Jesus the Christ.

This one person hold all these identifying Appellation, or Epithet, or titles, , which are mention above. this changes the whole dynamic of the book as we once believed, and the way we should read and understand this book. If the Lord Jesus holds all these identifying Appellation, or Epithet, or titles, then one will have to consider what they believe. but leaving that alone, Lets follow the Appellation, and the Epithet, or titles, and see if this is the one same person.

A.
#1. him, “which is, and which was, and which is to come". is this the Lord Jesus?.

Evidence #1. Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty”. So the “which is, and which was, and which is to come” is A. the Almighty, B. the Alpha and the Omega, and C. the Lord.

Revelation 4:8 "And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which is, and which was, and which is to come”. Again the which is, and which was, and which is to come is the Lord God Almighty.

Revelation 11:17 "Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned".

So clearly we see that him, “which art, and wast, and art to come“, it the Lord God Almighty. But is this JESUS? lets see,

#2. him, the “Seven Spirits”. is this the Lord Jesus also?

Evidence #1. Revelation 3:1 "And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead”.
We know that this is the Lord Jesus who is addressing the church in Sardis, and he, the “Lord” Jesus said that he has the “Seven Spirits”.

Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth”. BINGO, “which are the seven Spirits of God ”. so it is the Lord JESUS. for he stood/resurrected. and his Spirit sent into the earth is the Holy Ghost.

the one who have the seven Spirits is the Same one who is the First and the Last,
Revelation 1:17 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Revelation 1:18 "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death". the only one who was dead and live evermore is JESUS.

So the the one who have the seven Spirit is the First and the Last who is the Lord God Almighty, who is the Alpha and Omega.
Revelation 22:13 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last”. who is the “First & Last?”, the Lord God Almighty. BINGO, that confirm who is the Lord God Almighty is, JESUS.

And lastly, “the true witness”, that’s a no brainier, a give me. The Lord Jesus.

The only person who is the central theme of this book, REVELATION, is the Lord Jesus, who is the Spirit, and God is a Spirit (John 4:24a). what's not here is three seperate and distinct persons. THIS IS NOT 101G, BUT THE BIBLE. we willl see this clearly later on in the chapter.

and to Make sure that the Lord Jesus is the Spirit the Holy Spirit who sent his spirit into the Earth... Read all the seven Letters to the churches, and it's the Lord Jesus addressing them all right... right. but notice how each end, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. "

the Spirit? yes, and there is only ONE Spirit, who is God..... John 4:24 "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."


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PS... READ your bible ... "WITH"... the Holy Spirit.


You did a great job answering the question! But the question was for Kcnalp
 

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You did a great job answering the question! But the question was for Kcnalp
I know, he will read it. you answered him correctly, I just added some additional Information, it was not at you... (smile)

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John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you."
Yep and so we have Him and so we dont need the bible,because we have His Spirit and like Christ His Spirit is truth, unless like the bible says, you dont believe the Holy Spirit.
 

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Yep and so we have Him and so we dont need the bible,because we have His Spirit and like Christ His Spirit is truth, unless like the bible says, you dont believe the Holy Spirit.
Saying "we don't need the Bible" may cause needless misunderstanding for some, especially babes in Christ, don't you think?

Shouldn't we use everything that God has given us... but of course always for the right purpose? Early followers of Jesus probably had no Bible of their own, not even the OT to read at home. Many of them may have been illiterate and unable to read any book anyway. However, if we have the Bible available and we are not illiterate, it is not a bad idea to use what we have, is it? You do even if it is only to be able to discuss the things of God in a way in which people are able to relate.

It was really too bad that Hezekiah had to destroy Nehushtan because Moses did prepared it as God directed him. However it had been twisted into something used only it would seem for a very evil purpose. Are you perhaps too hasty in deciding that Nehushtan is evil only?

Some people probably have done that with the Bible, but for a lot of people getting into it was a step in the right direction. I don't believe the Bible stopped them from continuing to walk toward Him. If they did stop walking toward Him, it is likely they would have done so even if they have not misidentified the Bible. If a person gets weary in well doing, he is in trouble no matter what the reason is. People always have a reason. It is unlikely that anyone who walked with Jesus 2000 years ago did so because they loved their bright shiny Cadillac too much.

Things may ultimately be always black and white to God, but to all people, as I see it, they somewhere in between... as through a glass darkly... while they are the approach. Don't insist that their pathway must be precisely equal to yours.
 

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John 1:1-6
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1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
 

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I do not agree with everything he believes.
May I ask you, what do you do with these scriptures of proclamation...

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Jesus is God the Creator. He is also "the Son of God", "God the Father". I agree with the Bible. He denies both!
 

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Jesus is God the Creator. He is also "the Son of God", "God the Father". I agree with the Bible. He denies both!
GINOLJC, to all

first, did you hear yourself? "Jesus is God the Creator. He is also "the Son of God", "God the Father".

don't you know that we have only ONE FATHER, who is Creator, Malachi 2:10 "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?"

Jesus is CREATOR, meaning he's the Father. and Jesus is the Son, the Saviour. it's the same one person...... ok, you say Jesus is the creator, and he's also the Son of of God, whom you calls the Father. well tell us how is Jesus the Father, and yet his own Son?.... well, especially, if they are separate and distinct PERSONS.... :eek: YIKES!. cain't wait to hear that answer.


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Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth".

Can you tell me from "scriptures4all - interlinear hebrew OT" what the hebrew name for this "God" who is mentioned in the 1st verse in Genesis?

Can you tell me from "scriptures4all - interlinear hebrew OT" what the hebrew name for the "Lord God" who is mentioned in Genesis 2:4? Thank you.

From Genesis to Revelation, the bible has been telling us that the only true God is the Holy Spirit, JESUS, who is Lord.
You will have to quote me one scripture from the bible that says: The only true God is the Holy Spirit, JESUS, who is Lord.

I agree that Jesus is the Lord - Jesus is the Lord God in Genesis 2:4, but I do not believe that Jesus is the Holy Spirit. When Jesus went to heaven he sent the Holy Spirit to guide the apostles. He was in heaven and the Holy Spirit was on earth.

the scriptures don't lie. we as "Diversified Oneness" place the Holy Spirit as First and Last in the Godhead as the bible clearly states. one Person Diversified in flesh which in the OT, the begining, was to come.

This term "Diversified oneness" I believe is unbiblical, and is a confusing term in regards to the Godhead. How exactly are they diversified, except by name?
 

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Can you tell me from "scriptures4all - interlinear hebrew OT" what the hebrew name for this "God" who is mentioned in the 1st verse in Genesis?

Can you tell me from "scriptures4all - interlinear hebrew OT" what the hebrew name for the "Lord God" who is mentioned in Genesis 2:4? Thank you.
JESUS

You will have to quote me one scripture from the bible that says: The only true God is the Holy Spirit, JESUS, who is Lord.
you asked for one but I have many, and here is your one, Isaiah 44:6 "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God."

now tell us all who is your First and Last, who is the REDEEMER? .......... :eek: YIKES.

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Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth".

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God".

Revelation 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John".

From Genesis to Revelation, the bible has been telling us that the only true God is the Holy Spirit, JESUS, who is Lord.

some doctrine have person for titles, which make them error in the word of God.

the True doctrine of God is that he is "a" Spirit. and the Holy Spirit is that Spirit who is JESUS.

the scriptures don't lie. we as "Diversified Oneness" place the Holy Spirit as First and Last in the Godhead as the bible clearly states. one Person Diversified in flesh which in the OT, the begining, was to come.

so our doctrine is ONE Person, nunerically shared in flesh, hence the term "OFFSPRING", meaning two. which is the plurality of God, but not in persons, but in Nature. this sharing of oneself in flesh is called "ANOTHER", which the term ADAM means. and Jesus is the LAST "ADAM".

discussion is open.
What does nunerically mean
 

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First thanks for the reply, second, putting it simply, for bible understanding..... "ANOTHER", either of the same quality, and of the same SORT, or "ANOTHER", of a qualitative difference and denotes "ANOTHER" of a different sort.

now, numerically, it means, by means of or with respect to numbers. as in 1, 2, 3, ect... but biblically speaking of God's plurality, those NUMBERS are ordinal NUMBERS... as in First and Last. these two definition below will clearly show this numerical difference

my source, the Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words. listen close to what eachsay,
G243, and, G2087 ,allos, and, heteros have a difference in meaning, which despite a tendency to be lost, is to be observed in numerous passages.

G243 Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort;

G2087 heteros expresses a qualitative difference and denotes "another" of a different sort.


now, when I speak of the numerical difference of God's plurality, I'm speaking ordinal. meaning as the definition of G243 Allos states, AS THE SAME "SORT" or Person... and that ONE person is the ordinal of his ownself...... supportive scripture, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold:
therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me."

so the ARM of God, the Spirit, the Holy Spirit, the Father/Ordinal FIRST, is numerical 1. in ordinal number.s... the First, Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"... LORD, now the Son/Ordinal LAST, is numerical 2. in ordinal numbers... the LAST, 1 Corinthians 15:45 "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit."

here the Son, JESUS, is the "LAST" ordinal Last, or numerical 2. where he, JESUS, the Father, the "FIRST", the Ordinal First, is numerically 1.

understand, the definition of G243 allos... Allos expresses a numerical difference, (Father, Son), and denotes another of the same sort. (the SAME on Spirit/Person). see it now?

I may say, that was anexcellent question, and in the Name of the Lord Jesus, I thank you for it. never been asked that before, got to copy this post and save it for future reference.

so again I thank you for the question, if there are any question please ask... ok. thanks.

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First thanks for the reply, second, putting it simply, for bible understanding..... "ANOTHER", either of the same quality, and of the same SORT, or "ANOTHER", of a qualitative difference and denotes "ANOTHER" of a different sort.

now, numerically, it means, by means of or with respect to numbers. as in 1, 2, 3, ect... but biblically speaking of God's plurality, those NUMBERS are ordinal NUMBERS... as in First and Last. these two definition below will clearly show this numerical difference

my source, the Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words. listen close to what eachsay,
G243, and, G2087 ,allos, and, heteros have a difference in meaning, which despite a tendency to be lost, is to be observed in numerous passages.

G243 Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort;

G2087 heteros expresses a qualitative difference and denotes "another" of a different sort.

now, when I speak of the numerical difference of God's plurality, I'm speaking ordinal. meaning as the definition of G243 Allos states, AS THE SAME "SORT" or Person... and that ONE person is the ordinal of his ownself...... supportive scripture, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold:
therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me."

so the ARM of God, the Spirit, the Holy Spirit, the Father/Ordinal FIRST, is numerical 1. in ordinal number.s... the First, Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"... LORD, now the Son/Ordinal LAST, is numerical 2. in ordinal numbers... the LAST, 1 Corinthians 15:45 "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit."

here the Son, JESUS, is the "LAST" ordinal Last, or numerical 2. where he, JESUS, the Father, the "FIRST", the Ordinal First, is numerically 1.

understand, the definition of G243 allos... Allos expresses a numerical difference, (Father, Son), and denotes another of the same sort. (the SAME on Spirit/Person). see it now?

I may say, that was anexcellent question, and in the Name of the Lord Jesus, I thank you for it. never been asked that before, got to copy this post and save it for future reference.

so again I thank you for the question, if there are any question please ask... ok. thanks.

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If i read that, and understood it, i would be insane
 

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If i read that, and understood it, i would be insane
first thanks for the reply, second,, nope, A. get the Holy Spirit, to Teach you. B. Read the Bible with the Holy Spirit. and C. Get a dictionary, and bible Dictionary, and let the Holy Spirit Guide you.

I did, and I'm not insane....... hold it... watch your mouth...... (smile)... lol.

look, serious business, the Godhead can be known.... the bible say so... Romans 1:19 "Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them."
Romans 1:20 "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"

so there is no excuse in not knowing the Godhead.

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first thanks for the reply, second,, nope, A. get the Holy Spirit, to Teach you. B. Read the Bible with the Holy Spirit. and C. Get a dictionary, and bible Dictionary, and let the Holy Spirit Guide you.

I did, and I'm not insane....... hold it... watch your mouth...... (smile)... lol.

look, serious business, the Godhead can be known.... the bible say so... Romans 1:19 "Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them."
Romans 1:20 "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"

so there is no excuse in not knowing the Godhead.

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Which of the hundreds of bibles is the one that jesus approved of
 

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Which of the hundreds of bibles is the one that jesus approved of
there is only one BIBLE, (the Word of God), but many translations. the one whom the Holy Spirit lead you to.

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there is only one BIBLE, (the Word of God), but many translations. the one whom the Holy Spirit lead you to.

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Nope because every church tells its members that their bible is the word of god
 

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Nope because every church tells its members that their bible is the word of god
first, thanks for the reply, second, A. hear God and not your church. B. if need be, change Churches. C. we're here on this board, and not on twitter, or facebook, nor in your current church. if you just want a conversation, that's what they are for.

now, do you want to discuss the word of God, or complain? your choice.


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first, thanks for the reply, second, A. hear God and not your church. B. if need be, change Churches. C. we're here on this board, and not on twitter, or facebook, nor in your current church. if you just want a conversation, that's what they are for.

now, do you want to discuss the word of God, or complain? your choice.


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Do you hear god? Because I never have