Presidential Election Live Coverage 2020
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Trump is not done yet.
Through 4 years of non-stop backstabbing, invented reports and Two-faced undermining he has continued to serve the People and maintain his oath.
Any man that stands with the Truth, regardless if he uses PC language or Not, I will stand with him.
Fear is a tactic. Truth is nothing to fear.
I haven't worn a mask or Imprisoned myself.
And still know NOT one person who has had this doorstep Death Fear "Covid".
Wash my hands, disinfect my household...
Because a stranger tells me? Pfft Not news!
God is watching. Dire straights can turn around in moments.
Grailhunter
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China imposes forced abortion, sterilization on Uyghurs, investigation shows
'It's genocide, full stop': China imposes forced abortion, sterilisation on Uyghurs
Forced Abortions in China Continue Despite Two-Child Policy
Forced Abortions in China Continue Despite Two-Child Policy - PRI
Women 'tied like pigs,' forced abortions part of China's 'one-child policy,' doc shows
Women 'tied like pigs,' forced abortions part of China's 'one-child policy,' doc shows
Hundreds of Millions of Girls Killed in China, Where Are the Feminists?
Hundreds of Millions of Girls Killed in China, Where Are the Feminists?
The demoncrats are not using Canada or like countries to model their America...All ideology and economic ties point to China.
'It's genocide, full stop': China imposes forced abortion, sterilisation on Uyghurs
Forced Abortions in China Continue Despite Two-Child Policy
Forced Abortions in China Continue Despite Two-Child Policy - PRI
Women 'tied like pigs,' forced abortions part of China's 'one-child policy,' doc shows
Women 'tied like pigs,' forced abortions part of China's 'one-child policy,' doc shows
Hundreds of Millions of Girls Killed in China, Where Are the Feminists?
Hundreds of Millions of Girls Killed in China, Where Are the Feminists?
The demoncrats are not using Canada or like countries to model their America...All ideology and economic ties point to China.
Grailhunter
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China Expands Media Influence Abroad
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...ding-influence-over-media-abroad-report-warns
A Rundown Of Major U.S. Corporate Media’s Business Ties To China
Has China Compromised Every Major Mainstream Media Entity?
China's censorship propaganda and disinformation media control
https://www.aei.org/articles/chinas-censorship-propaganda-disinformation/
CNN accused of 'literally publishing Chinese propaganda
CNN accused of 'literally publishing Chinese propaganda'
Sound familiar....
The demoncrats are not using Canada or like countries to model their America...All ideology and economic ties point to China.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...ding-influence-over-media-abroad-report-warns
A Rundown Of Major U.S. Corporate Media’s Business Ties To China
Has China Compromised Every Major Mainstream Media Entity?
China's censorship propaganda and disinformation media control
https://www.aei.org/articles/chinas-censorship-propaganda-disinformation/
CNN accused of 'literally publishing Chinese propaganda
CNN accused of 'literally publishing Chinese propaganda'
Sound familiar....
The demoncrats are not using Canada or like countries to model their America...All ideology and economic ties point to China.
amigo de christo
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where was pope francis when all this other stuff broke out last summer . WELL it supported sie agenda . SO of course he would not criticize that .
ITS ALL A DOG AND PONY SHOW .
Grailhunter
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China Ends 2019 With The Worst Religious Persecution In The Country’s History
China Ends 2019 With The Worst Religious Persecution In Country History
The Attempted Shutdown of China’s Christians
Chinese Christianity: Religious Persecution Grows | National Review
In China, they’re closing churches, jailing pastors – and even rewriting scripture
In China, they’re closing churches, jailing pastors – and even rewriting scripture
Christian Persecution In China Is Even Worse Than You Thought
Christian Persecution in China Is Even Worse Than You Thought | RELEVANT
China closing Christian churches in Easter crackdown
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The demoncrat squad is promoting the belief that Christians are stupid, superstitious, prejudice bigots that need to be censored, controlled, and cleansed.
The demoncrats are not using Canada or like countries to model their America...All ideology and economic ties point to China.
China Ends 2019 With The Worst Religious Persecution In Country History
The Attempted Shutdown of China’s Christians
Chinese Christianity: Religious Persecution Grows | National Review
In China, they’re closing churches, jailing pastors – and even rewriting scripture
In China, they’re closing churches, jailing pastors – and even rewriting scripture
Christian Persecution In China Is Even Worse Than You Thought
Christian Persecution in China Is Even Worse Than You Thought | RELEVANT
China closing Christian churches in Easter crackdown
Video
The demoncrat squad is promoting the belief that Christians are stupid, superstitious, prejudice bigots that need to be censored, controlled, and cleansed.
The demoncrats are not using Canada or like countries to model their America...All ideology and economic ties point to China.
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WaterSong
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I respect your opinion however, I don't accept that newborns are born sinners. It isn't scripture.
Further, per your perspective, I try to imagine that scripture that tells me when we die the body returns to the dust from whence it sprang. And the soul to the God who gave it, as it would apply to your view:All are naturally born Against God. It is hearing, learning about God, whereby a person can choose to be "Forgiven" for having been Against God and Accept Gods Gift of Power to Never Again Be Against God (thus Free from Sin, thus can Sin NO more)....
God gave us our soul, our flesh, because we are born by his will, as he lets us to be born against him. Condemned to hell from the beginning. And then we're let to hear and learn about God, if able, if we choose, so that we can then choose to remove ourselves from our God given state because we heard about God's given Gospel due to his grace.
Seems to me, with that kind of doctrine about, that grace would have been more apparent and better evident if that newborn wouldn't have been condemned by the innocent mistake of the first Adam after the second Adam took the sins of the whole world upon himself on the cross. That didn't seem to make a difference if that newborn isn't allotted God's grace at birth. But is born condemned to be against God even after God sacrificed himself to change the doctrine of "original sin" that he created in the beginning.
God's grace would be better served if , per your doctrine, he didn't make newborn souls condemned at the birth he allowed them to enter into.
Grailhunter
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Genocide in China
Genocide in China - BreakPoint
State Department: Confirms China Potentially Carrying Out Worst Genocide Since the Holocaust
China Committing Horrific Genocide, Sterilization Campaign - Biden Said 'They're Not Bad Folks'
The demoncrats are not using Canada or like countries to model their America...All ideology and economic ties point to China.
Genocide in China - BreakPoint
State Department: Confirms China Potentially Carrying Out Worst Genocide Since the Holocaust
China Committing Horrific Genocide, Sterilization Campaign - Biden Said 'They're Not Bad Folks'
The demoncrats are not using Canada or like countries to model their America...All ideology and economic ties point to China.
Prayer Warrior
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Not sure where you’re coming from with this statement. Innocent mistake of Adam?? Since when is disobedience an innocent mistake? God said not to eat the fruit. Adam ate the fruit. A person who sins by disobeying God is not innocent.
Grailhunter
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There were no disobedient babies or babies eating fruit in Paradise.
Some believe in the Catholic doctrine of Original Sin and some do not.
The sin of Adam and Eve was their disobedience. The punishment for mankind was not living in Paradise and death.
historyb
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There are also those people that do not believe in the western concept of Original Sin but in Ancestral Sin
Prayer Warrior
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Catholic doctrine, lol. How about Bible doctrine?
Look at what I quoted above. WS made it sound like Adam made an innocent mistake.
Grailhunter
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I understand the "innocent" mistake thing. Just how innocent could that have been? But then it is back to those naughty naughty women.
Prayer Warrior
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Grailhunter
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Michiah-Imla
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The perversion that Christianity in the United States has done to God’s holy word is strikingly similar to what Israel did in their God given kingdom before being carried away captive by the Babylonians.
The modern day Babylonians/Assyrians are coming for all the Christian hypocrites in the US, especially all the false teachers who have deceived millions.
Isaiah 10:5-6
O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation. I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.
Ezekiel 5:6
And she hath changed my judgments into wickedness more than the nations, and my statutes more than the countries that are round about her: for they have refused my judgments and my statutes, they have not walked in them.
Ezekiel 5:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, am against thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the nations.
Instead of fighting against the evil that’s coming, perhaps some should consider repenting so God will have the enemy show mercy on us.
Jeremiah 15:11 The LORD said, Verily it shall be well with thy remnant; verily I will cause the enemy to entreat thee well in the time of evil and in the time of affliction.
Ye who strengthen the hands of evil doers with Eternal Security/Once Saved Always Saved (Ezekiel 13:22), ye who allow women to usurp authority over men, ye who lay false burdens on the people, ye who make scripture void by your traditions:
Jeremiah 23:16
Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD.
Now let’s see who’s the first in this place who would like to have me banned for telling it like it is.
Are you like Google and Apple?
Don’t be hypocritical.
I am saddened at the state of the faith in the US. We have bitten and devoured each other to the point that there is no mainstream unity whatsoever. A house divided cannot stand.
Luke 11:17
...Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.
And that because Satan and his devils have transformed themselves into the ministers of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:14-15); appealing to man’s evil heart so that he can be comfortable in a faith he is deceived in.
True Christians SUFFER in the faith!
2 Timothy 3:12
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
So if you haven’t been suffering lately you probably aren’t living godly in Christ Jesus.
2 Corinthians 13:5
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
The fact of the matter is that many in the faith are reprobates:
Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
The modern day Babylonians/Assyrians are coming for all the Christian hypocrites in the US, especially all the false teachers who have deceived millions.
Isaiah 10:5-6
O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation. I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.
Ezekiel 5:6
And she hath changed my judgments into wickedness more than the nations, and my statutes more than the countries that are round about her: for they have refused my judgments and my statutes, they have not walked in them.
Ezekiel 5:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, am against thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the nations.
Instead of fighting against the evil that’s coming, perhaps some should consider repenting so God will have the enemy show mercy on us.
Jeremiah 15:11 The LORD said, Verily it shall be well with thy remnant; verily I will cause the enemy to entreat thee well in the time of evil and in the time of affliction.
Ye who strengthen the hands of evil doers with Eternal Security/Once Saved Always Saved (Ezekiel 13:22), ye who allow women to usurp authority over men, ye who lay false burdens on the people, ye who make scripture void by your traditions:
Jeremiah 23:16
Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD.
Now let’s see who’s the first in this place who would like to have me banned for telling it like it is.
Are you like Google and Apple?
Don’t be hypocritical.
I am saddened at the state of the faith in the US. We have bitten and devoured each other to the point that there is no mainstream unity whatsoever. A house divided cannot stand.
Luke 11:17
...Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.
And that because Satan and his devils have transformed themselves into the ministers of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:14-15); appealing to man’s evil heart so that he can be comfortable in a faith he is deceived in.
True Christians SUFFER in the faith!
2 Timothy 3:12
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
So if you haven’t been suffering lately you probably aren’t living godly in Christ Jesus.
2 Corinthians 13:5
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
The fact of the matter is that many in the faith are reprobates:
Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
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Prayer Warrior
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Yeah, this is off topic. But the idea that women are the cause of all evil is not part of biblical Christianity. Paul clearly placed the blame for bringing sin and death into the world on Adam.
WaterSong
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Adam ate the fruit after Eve did.
By one man sin entered the world. Eating the fruit that is never named we just presume it to be an apple, some believe it to have been a quince, wasn't the sin. Because Adam nor Eve bore the conscious awareness of what it meant to obey or disobey. Because they did not possess the knowledge of right and wrong, good or evil. Until after Adam ate of the fruit of that tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Genesis 3:6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eyes, and that it was desirable for obtaining wisdom, she took the fruit and ate it. She also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate it.
Death entered the world. The death of the innocence of Eve and then Adam. Having eaten of the fruit they became like unto God knowing good and evil.
They weren't able to make a free choice to obey or disobey God without the requisite knowledge beforehand of the wisdom to know the difference between right and wrong, good and evil.
God planted the forbidden tree that bore the fruit that once partaken of would give his human creation his gnosis, knowledge.
The serpent did not lie to Eve. Once they ate of the fruit they did not physically die, though neither Adam nor Eve would know what death meant in any sense. And their eyes were open and they did become like God, knowing good and evil.
The Temptation and the Fall
Bible Gateway passage: Genesis 3 - New English Translation
Genesis 3 Now the serpent was shrewder than any of the wild animals that the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Is it really true that God said, ‘You must not eat from any tree of the orchard’?” 2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit from the trees of the orchard; 3 but concerning the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the orchard God said, ‘You must not eat from it, and you must not touch it, or else you will die.’” 4 The serpent said to the woman, “Surely you will not die, 5 for God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will open and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
22 And the Lord God said, “Now that the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil, he must not be allowed to stretch out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the Lord God expelled him from the orchard in Eden to cultivate the ground from which he had been taken. 24 When he drove the man out, he placed on the eastern side of the orchard in Eden angelic sentries who used the flame of a whirling sword to guard the way to the tree of life.
And what of the other humans God created in Genesis 1? Why is it by Adam that the world would be let to need a savior from sin?
Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let us make humankind in our image, after our likeness, so they may rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move on the earth.”
27 God created humankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them,
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply! Fill the earth and subdue it! Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and every creature that moves on the ground.”
Prayer Warrior
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Your thinking is strewn with error. The truth is that God clearly told Adam not to eat the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Adam defied God and ate the fruit. It’s as simple as that.
What do you base your beliefs about this on? Cabala?
WaterSong
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