Is replacement theology biblical?

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Keraz

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You're a blessed man because you love those Christ died for. :)
What unscriptural rubbish!

We are NOT told to bless a people whose nation was founded on communistic principals, who are mainly atheists, who tout LBGT as an acceptable lifestyle, who despise their neighbors and who reject Jesus, outlawing Christianity.
Many prophesies tell us what the Lord intends to do with them. Zephaniah 1:1-18 tells it plainly and Luke 20:9-18 ...He will come an put those tenants to death and give the vineyard to others. Only a remnant will survive. Romans 9:27.
 

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What unscriptural rubbish!

We are NOT told to bless a people whose nation was founded on communistic principals, who are mainly atheists, who tout LBGT as an acceptable lifestyle, who despise their neighbors and who reject Jesus, outlawing Christianity.
Many prophesies tell us what the Lord intends to do with them. Zephaniah 1:1-18 tells it plainly and Luke 20:9-18 ...He will come an put those tenants to death and give the vineyard to others. Only a remnant will survive. Romans 9:27.

he takes the kingdom from them giving it to the church who will bear fruit
 

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1948 does not exist in the Bible

You're so dilluted in your antisemitism that you fail to realize that what happened in 1948 is prophecied in scripture.
Can a country be born in a day or anation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children. Isaiah 66

Btw, there's the word Zion for you that you so condemn but it's in scripture.
 

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What unscriptural rubbish!

We are NOT told to bless a people whose nation was founded on communistic principals, who are mainly atheists, who tout LBGT as an acceptable lifestyle, who despise their neighbors and who reject Jesus, outlawing Christianity.
Many prophesies tell us what the Lord intends to do with them. Zephaniah 1:1-18 tells it plainly and Luke 20:9-18 ...He will come an put those tenants to death and give the vineyard to others. Only a remnant will survive. Romans 9:27.

I don't entirely disagree with you. When I say I love the Jews, or when I say I love Israel, I'm loving them in the hope they convert and find their destiny. Not all, of course, will have that destiny. But we are to have love regardless, so that we are like our heavenly Father, who doesn't ever change.

James 1.17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.

Luke 6.35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.

This is not rubbish, brother, but the command of the Lord. And there are many denunciations God leveled against Israel's enemies, even in times of Israel's backsliding. We should be forewarned that God does not take likely those who despise those under the Lord's disciplines.

Zech 1.14 Then the angel who was speaking to me said, “Proclaim this word: This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I am very jealous for Jerusalem and Zion, 15 and I am very angry with the nations that feel secure. I was only a little angry, but they went too far with the punishment.’

Mat 6.14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
 
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he takes the kingdom from them giving it to the church who will bear fruit

You ought to study your Old Testament more, because Isaiah 5 defines who the 'vineyard' represents that Jesus was using in His parable of the vineyard in Matthew 21.

Isa 5:7
7 For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah His pleasant plant: and He looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry.

KJV

God originally setup Judah to be overseer of His vineyard the "house of Israel", which represents the majority of the tribes of Israel.

But at Jesus' 1st coming to offer the Kingdom, the majority of Judah in Jerusalem (i.e., Jews) rejected Him and had Him crucified. Thus Jesus said His vineyard ("house of Israel") would be given to a nation that would bring forth the fruits thereof (Matthew 21:43). What nation is that? A nation of Gentiles?? Not exactly.

God's Birthright first given Abraham wound up in final upon the head of Joseph's two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh (1 Chronicles 5). Per Genesis 35, God promised Jacob's seed would become 'a nation', and 'a company of nations'. That wasn't meant just spiritually either. In Genesis 48, Jacob revealed this further about Joseph's son Ephraim, saying that his seed would become "a multitude of nations".

What this ultimately means, is that the majority of the ten lost tribes of the "house of Israel", whom God scattered first because of falling away from Him, they lost their heritage as part of old Israel, and became 'as' Gentiles, living among Gentiles. And when it was time, The Gospel would be preached to them, and the majority of them would believe. This is what actually happened with the migrations of the ten tribes into Asia Minor and Europe from their captivities in Assyria and the land of the Medes. This is why Apostle Paul when he wanted to go into Asia (Far East) to preach The Gospel The Holy Spirit stopped him (Acts 16:6; don't confuse Asia-Minor with Far East Asia). The Gospel would eventually be preached in the Far East and all the world by ambassadors from the western Christian nations. But The Gospel first took hold among the western Christian nations, Great Britain being the first nation to accept The Gospel on a national level.

To make this short, a good majority of the ten lost tribes of Israel scattered to the West were the 'founders' of the Western Christian nations under Jesus Christ. The main difference is that the majority of them today still don't know this, and instead think they are Gentiles.

Before Christ's 1st coming, the whole of Asia Minor and Europe were worshipping false gods and every abominable thing imaginable. In each different land, the Baal gods had different names and cultures attached to them, but their root origins were all from the same ancient Baal worship that the ten tribes of Israel had fallen into, for which God scattered them beyond Euphrates for. Even in the days of Josephus, the Jewish historian that lived in 100 A.D., he said they were still scattered beyond the Euphrates, and were a great many people, too many to be counted.

But when The Gospel was preached to them in Asia-Minor and Europe, they began to put away their idols, and thus The Gospel of Jesus Christ became their Faith. That... was what Lord Jesus was talking about when He said He was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the "house of Israel". It was about His coming to die on the cross, The Gospel, all along. God used their rebellion to bring The Gospel to the Gentiles. And thus they became the "multitude of nations" under Ephraim, representing the western Christian nations and their allied nations in all the earth. And this... is what the devil and his children have sought to destroy off the earth.
 
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You're so dilluted in your antisemitism that you fail to realize that what happened in 1948 is prophecied in scripture.
Can a country be born in a day or anation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children. Isaiah 66

Btw, there's the word Zion for you that you so condemn but it's in scripture.

I said political Zionism not Zion or Sion
What is anti-semitism?
 

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You ought to study your Old Testament more, because Isaiah 5 defines who the 'vineyard' represents that Jesus was using in His parable of the vineyard in Matthew 21.

Isa 5:7
7 For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah His pleasant plant: and He looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry.

KJV

God originally setup Judah to be overseer of His vineyard the "house of Israel", which represents the majority of the tribes of Israel.

But at Jesus' 1st coming to offer the Kingdom, the majority of Judah in Jerusalem (i.e., Jews) rejected Him and had Him crucified. Thus Jesus said His vineyard ("house of Israel") would be given to a nation that would bring forth the fruits thereof (Matthew 21:43). What nation is that? A nation of Gentiles?? Not exactly.

God's Birthright first given Abraham wound up in final upon the head of Joseph's two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh (1 Chronicles 5). Per Genesis 35, God promised Jacob's seed would become 'a nation', and 'a company of nations'. That wasn't meant just spiritually either. In Genesis 48, Jacob revealed this further about Joseph's son Ephraim, saying that his seed would become "a multitude of nations".

What this ultimately means, is that the majority of the ten lost tribes of the "house of Israel", whom God scattered first because of falling away from Him, they lost their heritage as part of old Israel, and became 'as' Gentiles, living among Gentiles. And when it was time, The Gospel would be preached to them, and the majority of them would believe. This is what actually happened with the migrations of the ten tribes into Asia Minor and Europe from their captivities in Assyria and the land of the Medes. This is why Apostle Paul when he wanted to go into Asia (Far East) to preach The Gospel The Holy Spirit stopped him (Acts 16:6; don't confuse Asia-Minor with Far East Asia). The Gospel would eventually be preached in the Far East and all the world by ambassadors from the western Christian nations. But The Gospel first took hold among the western Christian nations, Great Britain being the first nation to accept The Gospel on a national level.

To make this short, a good majority of the ten lost tribes of Israel scattered to the West were the 'founders' of the Western Christian nations under Jesus Christ. The main difference is that the majority of them today still don't know this, and instead think they are Gentiles.

Before Christ's 1st coming, the whole of Asia Minor and Europe were worshipping false gods and every abominable thing imaginable. In each different land, the Baal gods had different names and cultures attached to them, but their root origins were all from the same ancient Baal worship that the ten tribes of Israel had fallen into, for which God scattered them beyond Euphrates for. Even in the days of Josephus, the Jewish historian that lived in 100 A.D., he said they were still scattered beyond the Euphrates, and were a great many people, too many to be counted.

But when The Gospel was preached to them in Asia-Minor and Europe, they began to put away their idols, and thus The Gospel of Jesus Christ became their Faith. That... was what Lord Jesus was talking about when He said He was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the "house of Israel". It was about His coming to die on the cross, The Gospel, all along. God used their rebellion to bring The Gospel to the Gentiles. And thus they became the "multitude of nations" under Ephraim, representing the western Christian nations and their allied nations in all the earth. And this... is what the devil and his children have sought to destroy off the earth.

Jesus is speaking to the leaders of Israel!

matt 21:45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.

matt 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
 

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You're so dilluted in your antisemitism that you fail to realize that what happened in 1948 is prophecied in scripture.
Can a country be born in a day or anation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children. Isaiah 66

Btw, there's the word Zion for you that you so condemn but it's in scripture.

I don’t recall hearing a proclamation concerning this in 1948???

matt 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. (still desolate)

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
 

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Jesus is speaking to the leaders of Israel!

matt 21:45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.

matt 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.


Apparently, what I showed you from Isaiah 5 just went right over your head.
 

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the new covenant replaced the mosaic, then Jesus was ant-semetic Matt 21:43
Taken from Israel given to the church

I see what you did there. A new covenant in place does NOT mean God forsaked the people of the covenant. Even the new covenant itself was offered to them first.
 
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Confusion on both sides here on this topic. There Biblically is no such thing as Replacement Theology.

Jesus told His Apostles they each would sit upon a throne judging the 12 tribes of Israel in His future Kingdom. And the new Jerusalem shown coming down out of Heaven from God in Revelation has the Apostle's names written on the foundation stones.

Rev 21:14
14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
KJV


Not only that, but the new Jerusalem will have 12 gates, each with one of the names of the 12 tribes of Israel upon it!

Rev 21:12
12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
KJV



So those here in Christ Jesus, are you a member of Christ's Church or not?

IF... you are, as I am, then that new Jerusalem of Revelation 21 is 'our' inheritance! It means ISRAEL is the name for Christ's future Kingdom of Salvation! Lord Jesus will be KING of Israel, upon the throne of His inheritance, the throne of David! (Luke 1:31-32).

Like Apostle Paul taught in Romans 9, those of the flesh are not God's true ISRAEL, but only those in the Promise are counted for the seed. That Promise is about the Promise by Faith which God first gave through Abraham. Abraham believed God, and God counted Abraham's Faith as Righteousness. And thus those of FAITH have become the 'children of Abraham'! Paul covered this in Galatians 3 and Romans 4. The name Israel is the symbolic name for that Promise by Faith. It is not tied to the unbelievers, and that includes the unbelieving among the flesh children of Israel.
 

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Thank You Davy. The new Jerusalem is our home. I look forward for this mess to get cleaned up.
 
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I see what you did there. A new covenant in place does NOT mean God forsaked the people of the covenant. Even the new covenant itself was offered to them first.

israel rejected and crucified Jesus Christ
Acts 2:36
2 Tim 2:12
Matt 12:30
Matt 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
 

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I see what you did there. A new covenant in place does NOT mean God forsaked the people of the covenant. Even the new covenant itself was offered to them first.

1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

the Christian church not the Jews or Israel (12 tribes not one)
 

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I see what you did there. A new covenant in place does NOT mean God forsaked the people of the covenant. Even the new covenant itself was offered to them first.

not only Israel new Israel of God with new sabbath and Passover but whole new creation new heaven new earth New Jerusalem which is our mother the bride come down from heaven holy mother church