Hebrews 10:26-31

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"My take on that is that the sacrifice there in Hebrews 10:26 is refering to the OT sacrifices for sins."
Yes, agreed 100%!!! Things are not always as they appear to our human eyes, especially when we have no more room to learn, which I think is impossible, lol.
Enjoyed your post and, I could not have said it even half as good.
God bless us Nancy! And thank you for your kind and encouraging words, but glory be to God!

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I'm pretty sure what I say is foreign to you. Do you not believe the Word of God I teach? Would you rather believe your false teachers worthless kisses of an enemy? Those kisses are like from Don Corleone.




You wouldn’t know the true “Word Of God” If it came up and bit you on the .........Er....ah.....backside....
 
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May the Lord abundantly bless you, @Blood Bought 1953...


Your phony concern for me is very Touching.....you are just trying to show your” Superiority” over me by pretending to be so “ loving”....
“ look everybody ! BB is sooooo mean to me , and me, being such a “ Good” Christian .....see how sweet I am to him ?” Take your phoney, superior Christian act and blow it out your ear ....in your heart, you detest me, and I welcome your hate....it let's me know that I am on the right track....
 
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Your phony concern for me is very Touching.....you are just trying to show your” Superiority” over me by pretending to be so “ loving”....
“ look everybody ! BB is sooooo mean to me , and me, being such a “ Good” Christian .....see how sweet I am to him ?” Take your phoney, superior Christian act and blow it out your ear ....in your heart, you detest me, and I welcome your hate....it let's me know that I am on the right track....
You want me to be hating you but nothing could be further from the truth.

Fact is, I care about where you are going to spend eternity...and I don't want it to be hell.
 

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It does not only justify (as per Romans 5:9)...it also sanctifies (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleanses us from all sin (1 John 1:7).


I believe ALL of theses verses ......that “ cleanses us from ALL SIN” thingy kinda shoots your “ Lucky Repentance “ clap- trap to hell, doesn't it ?
You ignorantly throw out verses that prove your Perverted “ Doctrine” is Wrong , and you don't even see it.....wise people do.....
 
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You want me to be hating you but nothing could be further from the truth.

Fact is, I care about where you are going to spend eternity...and I don't want it to be hell.


Your a real Saint. If I go to Hell, God is a Liar.....and he Ain’t.....give your concern to those that need it —- all of those , like you, that ADD to the Gospel Of 1Cir15:1-4...... pray to God that “ falling from Grace” , which is where you are at incidentally, does not mean Damnation....many people smarter than you or I say, that that is EXACTLY what it means...
 

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I believe ALL of theses verses ......that “ cleanses us from ALL SIN” thingy kinda shoots your “ Lucky Repentance “ clap- trap to hell, doesn't it ?
You ignorantly throw out verses that prove your Perverted “ Doctrine” is Wrong , and you don't even see it.....wise people do.....

Maybe you can point out to me what I don't see...how does 1 John 1:7 deny that a man needs repentance in order to be saved?

From my perspective, Jesus is a gentleman...and He is not going to cleanse a man from all sin until and unless the same man relinquishes his right to sin...

He does not cleanse a man from all sin against the will of the man.

So then, the man must surrender his sins to the Lordship of Jesus Christ; and then Jesus will cleanse that man from all sin.

Again, man does not ever get delivered from the power of sin if he still desires to keep his sins...that would be Jesus invading the man's house and forcing him to be redeemed.

That is not my Jesus...my Jesus stands at the door and knocks (Revelation 3:20).

Your a real Saint. If I go to Hell, God is a Liar.....and he Ain’t.....give your concern to those that need it —- all of those , like you, that ADD to the Gospel Of 1Cir15:1-4...... pray to God that “ falling from Grace” , which is where you are at incidentally, does not mean Damnation....many people smarter than you or I say, that that is EXACTLY what it means...

Isa 57:15, For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Wow...that’s a new one ! Good work!

Actually it is rather old...credit goes to the late Pastor Romaine of the Calvary Chapel movement.
 
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I am begging
One should never beg with Christ it is His great pleasure to help us when we believe He is, He loves and desires we ask Him for Help because

2Co_12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness.

God bless you
 
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One should never beg with Christ it is His great pleasure to help us when we believe He is, He loves and desires we ask Him for Help because

2Co_12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness.

God bless you

That verse holds much meaning to me MJRH, and as I find more and more just how sufficient His grace is :)
 
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@Blood Bought 1953,

What I see in you is not a contrite and humble spirit but one of arrogance and presumption...

Your belief in eternal security (apart from being a saint) has removed from your attitude every last vestige of the fear of the LORD.

This is not a good thing (see Job 28:28).
 
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Understood..BUT. "there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins," Could this mean that there is nowhere else to go for His mercies that are new everyday? IOW, there IS NO OTHER place to receive His forgiveness. Why are we to pray for him to forgive us our sins? Why would His mercies be new each day if we were perfect? If we truly seek to serve Him and Him only and fall short as, sin is a parasite that lives in us but we do not serve sin! Am I to believe that you never ask for forgiveness?
First thanks for the reply, Nancy, you're on point, not reading all the post, I had to stop here, Matthew 12:31 "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men." BINGO, that's if the person is willing to REPENT, to be forgiven. for the soul that sinneth shall die, not the soul that sin, but if as the scripture states, unwilling. because, Hebrews 6:6 "If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."

that's if they are willing to repent. but if they are hell bent on sinning after waring, and trying to restore them fails, then leave them to Satan for the destruction of the flesh. 1 Corinthians 5:5 "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus."

Nancy, you and maybe a few other has hit it on the head, for God keep on bring me back to Micah 6:8 "He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"

LOVE MERCY, for our Father is merciful , and not Willing to see any to perish. that Micah 6:8 should stop anyone from struggling with Hebrews 10:26-31. just get the Holy Ghost, for his burden is LIGHT, and give it to him, for he can overcome anything. so stop the struggling, and not the real DEAL, which is to "LOVE MERCY". show love and get it in return. ther is no one too far that God cannot reach. that Micah 6:8 is the real deal.

hope that helps.

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First thanks for the reply, Nancy, you're on point, not reading all the post, I had to stop here, Matthew 12:31 "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men." BINGO, that's if the person is willing to REPENT, to be forgiven. for the soul that sinneth shall die, not the soul that sin, but if as the scripture states, unwilling. because, Hebrews 6:6 "If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."

that's if they are willing to repent. but if they are hell bent on sinning after waring, and trying to restore them fails, then leave them to Satan for the destruction of the flesh. 1 Corinthians 5:5 "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus."

Nancy, you and maybe a few other has hit it on the head, for God keep on bring me back to Micah 6:8 "He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"

LOVE MERCY, for our Father is merciful , and not Willing to see any to perish. that Micah 6:8 should stop anyone from struggling with Hebrews 10:26-31. just get the Holy Ghost, for his burden is LIGHT, and give it to him, for he can overcome anything. so stop the struggling, and not the real DEAL, which is to "LOVE MERCY". show love and get it in return. ther is no one too far that God cannot reach. that Micah 6:8 is the real deal.

hope that helps.

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Amen, Our God is crazy merciful! As we also should be, we reap what we sow :)
 
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all of those , like you, that ADD to the Gospel Of 1Cir15:1-4...... pray to God that “ falling from Grace” , which is where you are at incidentally, does not mean Damnation....many people smarter than you or I say, that that is EXACTLY what it means...
If I am "fallen from grace" over the fact that I have come to a place in my walk wherein I now have victory over the sins that used to so easily beset me, then it is the purpose of grace to keep a man in his sins. Because as long as he is in grace, he will not have victory over his besetting sins. The moment he begins to have victory, he has "fallen from grace".

I know this because no one told me that I was fallen from grace while I was still living in my besetting sins; but the moment I started to have the victory, all of a sudden people pop up telling me that I have fallen from grace.

Now I know that this is not accurate, based on the definition of grace that it is the enabling power of the Lord. Because this is the truth, if a man begins to gain the victory over his besetting sins, you can be certain that this is because of grace and not because the man fell away from it.
 
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If I am "fallen from grace" over the fact that I have come to a place in my walk wherein I now have victory over the sins that used to so easily beset me, then it is the purpose of grace to keep a man in his sins. Because as long as he is in grace, he will not have victory over his besetting sins. The moment he begins to have victory, he has "fallen from grace".

I know this because no one told me that I was fallen from grace while I was still living in my besetting sins; but the moment I started to have the victory, all of a sudden people pop up telling me that I have fallen from grace.

Now I know that this is not accurate, based on the definition of grace that it is the enabling power of the Lord. Because this is the truth, if a man begins to gain the victory over his besetting sins, you can be certain that this is because of grace and not because the man fell away from it.


You simply do not understand .....let's try it one more time———-

If you are experiencing “ victory” over sin.....how could that not be i great thing? It is .
Here’s where one can run into trouble.....if you think that “ victory” saved you or Kept you Saved.....THAT is where you “ add” to the Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing
Had you experienced NO VICTORY , it would have Nothing to Do with your Salvation— “THAT”was accomplished by Total Faith in the Finished Work Of The Cross Plus Nothing.....
Trusting the Blood is Salvation....Living a Life more pleasing to God is a “RESULT” of that Salvation.....Your progress is a part of your SANCTIFICATION ,which is Christ in you , Transforming you into the Image Of His Son.....
Rejoice in your “ victory”—— just don’t cross the line saying that it Saved you or kept you Saved and others MUST do what you did in order to be Saved....it’s “ Nothing But The Blood” For Salvation ....If you go beyond that, you are preaching a False , Perverted Gospel ....you are a Legalist who “ Falls From Grace”.....
 
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You simply do not understand .....let's try it one more time———-

If you are experiencing “ victory” over sin.....how could that not be i great thing? It is .
Here’s where one can run into trouble.....if you think that “ victory” saved you or Kept you Saved.....THAT is where you “ add” to the Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing
Had you experienced NO VICTORY , it would have Nothing to Do with your Salvation— “THAT”was accomplished by Total Faith in the Finished Work Of The Cross Plus Nothing.....
Trusting the Blood is Salvation....Living a Life more pleasing to God is a “RESULT” of that Salvation.....Your progress is a part of your SANCTIFICATION ,which is Christ in you , Transforming you into the Image Of His Son.....
Rejoice in your “ victory”—— just don’t cross the line saying that it Saved you or kept you Saved and others MUST do what you did in order to be Saved....it’s “ Nothing But The Blood” For Salvation ....If you go beyond that, you are preaching a False , Perverted Gospel ....you are a Legalist who “ Falls From Grace”.....

In Romans 4:5, we find that our God justifies the ungodly person...

That means that He declares them righteous....He gives them a new, unshakable identity in Christ that they are righteous. We retain that identity even when we blow it.

If you have that identity, go and live like it (1 John 3:7, Romans 5:19, Matthew 5:6).

In Romans 4:20-22, we find that Abraham was justified through the fact that He did not waver in unbelief as concerning the promises of the Lord; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God...

We also will be justified if we believe that what He has promised, He is able also to perform.

Now, He has promised us certain things in such passages as,

1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 (kjv), Hebrews 10:14 (kjv), 1 John 3:9;

1 John 3:7, 1 John 3:3, 1 John 2:6;

Jude 1:24, 2 Peter 1:10, 1 John 2:10;

1 John 3:6, 1 John 2:17;

Romans 6:6 (kjv), Colossians 2:11 (kjv).

If we do not believe in these promises we will not be justified in the long run.

If we believe in them, then we will obtain them in due season (Hebrews 11:33, 2 Peter 1:3-4, 2 Corinthians 1:20, Romans 4:20-22) and will have what has been promised.

Therefore, if a man never obtains what is promised, is he therefore justified? I think that he is not justified.

The blood of Jesus Christ does not only justify (as per Romans 5:9)...it also sanctifies (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleanses us from all sin (1 John 1:7)...

It is not possible that it should be applied and not perform all of its functions.
 
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(Heb 10:26)
It can be said that the sacrifice being spoken of is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross.
'For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,
there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation,
which shall devour the adversaries.'

(Heb 10:26)

Hello @justbyfaith,

I am not acquainted with the men you have mentioned in your OP, or their teaching, but am acquainted with the passage of Scripture you have raised, and agree that it has been the cause of consternation to many.

* The question you appear to be raising is:- Is 'the sacrifice for sins,' referred to in Hebrews 10:26, actually referring to the sacrificial offering of Christ upon the cross?

The words 'sin wilfully,' in this verse, I believe, refers specifically to the possibility of the deliberate turning back to Judaism by the Hebrew believers that the writer was addressing. For by doing so they would have 'trodden under foot the Son of God', would be, 'counting the blood of the Covenant unholy', and 'doing despite to the spirit of grace' (Hebrews10:29) . In the light of the enormity of this wilful sin the cross of Christ would be lost to them, for they would have turned their backs from the truth of the sacrificial offering of Christ Jesus as God's offering for sin, to go back under the law. (in this light the words of Hebrews 6:1-8 should be considered, to which the word 'illuminated' of 10:32 refers).

'Christ is become of no effect unto you,
whosoever of you are justified by the law;
ye are fallen from grace.'

(Gal 5:4)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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