Repentance is the Gift Of God !

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Jesus did not die for all of the future sins of everyone. What I mean by this is that He did not die for willful sins that will be committed in the future by those who have believed in and known the truth. This is evident in Hebrews 10:26-31.

If someone is born again through the knowledge of the truth, and then turns from the holy commandment delivered unto them (see 2 Peter 2:18-22), their latter state is worse for them than in the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness.

Did Jesus die for their future sins?

You commit Willful sins on the regular, You just have trouble admitting it...

1 Peter 1:5 Applies to Christians

Jesus died for All sins

2 peter 2 is talking about False Teachers and their destruction. These are people who profess to believe in Christ but bring all types of heresies into the church. They tried to oppose the Gospel as an example when the Gospel teaches Jesus died for your sins they might teach not all sins or not future sins, So no it doesn't apply to them they where not saved and lost there salvation they where never saved in the first place they where imposters, When they came into the church they crept in where ungodly and denied the Gospel, Also the ones that follow them end up worse than they were at the beginning.
 
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2Pe 2:18, For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
2Pe 2:19, While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
2Pe 2:20, For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21, For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22, But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
 
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Indeed it does. But I think that we have a different definition in our minds as to what it means to be kept by the power of God through faith.

Do you hold that this verse is interpreted and qualified by 1 John 5:18?

Christians Love Jesus, Fakers oppose and Deny him, I think its obvious with what they do with the Gospel
 
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Christians Love Jesus, Fakers oppose and Deny him, I think its obvious with what they do with the Gospel
And you have called me a faker in the very recent past, so I think that you are referring to me.

I do not oppose and neither do I deny my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

I confess that He is my Lord and Saviour.

I know that He died for all of my sins; and that I am redeemed by His blood.
 

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And you have called me a faker in the very recent past, so I think that you are referring to me.

I do not oppose and neither do I deny my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

I confess that He is my Lord and Saviour.

I know that He died for all of my sins; and that I am redeemed by His blood.

Well that sounds nice But I have seen you say the opposite as well, You have been caught in so many errors lately The thing that amazes me is you haven't admitted to anything no matter how much in the wrong you where, It feels like you say what you think you need to at the time and it can change at any moment, I did try and leave things but you keep quoting and probing and with me is I say things how I see it, If you Believe what you just said Good for you... but when you add the other things you say well your in two minds, I don't trust you, Only God is the Judge You cant fake it with Him. All the best
 

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I don't trust you,

Jhn 7:37, In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
Jhn 7:38, He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

Jhn 7:39, (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

I believe in Him; and therefore out of my belly shall flow rivers of living water.

Therefore, as Jesus said, so can I say:

If any man thirst, let him come to me and drink.
 

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Well that sounds nice But I have seen you say the opposite as well,
Please use the quote feature and bring to bear on this issue where I have said the opposite.

For, I think that perhaps you have misunderstood me...and therefore, if you will bring that thing to the forefront that you were thinking of, I may be able to correct the misunderstanding.
 

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Christians Love Jesus,
Yes, and the scriptures said,

Jhn 14:15, If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jhn 15:10, If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.


1Jo 5:2, By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

1Jo 5:3, For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
 

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:) See Luke 6:41-42.


Nice try.....I DID “ cast out the Beam” when I did “ God's Will” .....I actually “ Believed in the One that He sent”...... something you have failed to do...YOU believe in your Performance —- especially your Reliance on “Lucky Repentance” to get you to Heaven....
You clearly believe a “ false Gospel ” and according to Galatians you are “ Fallen from Grace”..... that may or may not mean Damnation—- it depends on who you listen to....and that’s tragic enough . If you progress from merely “ believing” a false, perverted Gospel to actually TEACHING that False Gospel you are in SERIOUS Jeopardy of being a Candidate for Galatians 1:8 —- you would be “ Accursed “ for preaching a lie...... “ Accursed” , of course is just a polite way to say “ God Damned”.......you should be careful of what you teach....
 

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Nice try.....I DID “ cast out the Beam” when I did “ God's Will” .....I actually “ Believed in the One that He sent”...... something you have failed to do...YOU believe in your Performance —- especially your Reliance on “Lucky Repentance” to get you to Heaven....
You clearly believe a “ false Gospel ” and according to Galatians you are “ Fallen from Grace”..... that may or may not mean Damnation—- it depends on who you listen to....and that’s tragic enough . If you progress from merely “ believing” a false, perverted Gospel to actually TEACHING that False Gospel you are in SERIOUS Jeopardy of being a Candidate for Galatians 1:8 —- you would be “ Accursed “ for preaching a lie...... “ Accursed” , of course is just a polite way to say “ God Damned”.......you should be careful of what you teach....
I do not believe that I am saved via my performance.

I am saved through the blood of Jesus which affects my performance.

The root of both my salvation and my performance is faith in the blood...and my performance is also based in reliance on the Holy Spirit; which has its roots in faith in the blood.

But the root of my salvation has nothing to do with my performance...

The root of my salvation (faith in the blood of Jesus) both saves me from the penatly of sin and from the power of it.

I think that you may have stumbled at that stumblingstone and think that because the blood delivers us from the power of sin, that therefore our freedom from sin is the root of our salvation...this is not the case.

The blood of Jesus sets us free from the penalty of sin...

And, down a separate venue, it sets us free from the power of sin.

Like this:

...................................the blood of Jesus........................................
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.........salvation from sin's penalty...........salvation from sin's power......
 
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I think, however, that also,

when it says in Romans 6:23 that the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord...

That it does not teach there that because the gift of God is eternal life in Christ, that the wages of sin is no longer death.

It should be clear in Romans 6:22, that the result of everlasting life is based in the fact that we have been set free from sin, are now servants to God, and have our fruit unto holiness.
 
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I think, however, that also,

when it says in Romans 6:23 that the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord...

That it does not teach there that because the gift of God is eternal life in Christ, that the wages of sin is no longer death.

It should be clear in Romans 6:22, that the result of everlasting life is based in the fact that we have been set free from sin, are now servants to God, and have our fruit unto holiness.




Please take the time now to reveal the rest of you’re “ Doctrine”....expand on how Repenting from all of your sins before you die, not ones Faith in the Blood, is the final, determining factor in Salvation...The Doctrine Of “ Lucky Repentance”......
 

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Please take the time now to reveal the rest of you’re “ Doctrine”....expand on how Repenting from all of your sins before you die, not ones Faith in the Blood, is the final, determining factor in Salvation...The Doctrine Of “ Lucky Repentance”......
Faith in the blood is in fact the key.

1Jo 1:7, But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Psa 51:7, Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.

1Co 15:34, Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
 
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Faith in the blood is in fact the key.

1Jo 1:7, But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Psa 51:7, Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.

1Co 15:34, Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.



So do you renounce your views on Repentance? You know what I am talking about.....
 

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So do you renounce your views on Repentance? You know what I am talking about.....
I don't believe that Jesus will cleanse a man with His blood apart from that man's permission.

A man cannot have real, genuine repentance (where he actually ceases from sinning) apart from the blood of Jesus (see Jeremiah 13:23).

A man can try to "turn over a new leaf" but he will find that he has not the power to live a holy life apart from the blood of Jesus Christ and the indwelling Holy Ghost.
 

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Sigh......let’s try it this way.....I am driving ....somebody pulls out in front of me and causes a MAJOR fender bender....I get VERY angry.....I say the most vile words that one can imagine ! I suddenly drop dead Of a heart attack before I have time to Repent....
Will that one UN Repented-Of Sin cause me to go to Hell ? Please....no more evasion....give an on- looking World a simple, “ yes or no”...... thanks....
 

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Sigh......let’s try it this way.....I am driving ....somebody pulls out in front of me and causes a MAJOR fender bender....I get VERY angry.....I say the most vile words that one can imagine ! I suddenly drop dead Of a heart attack before I have time to Repent....
Will that one UN Repented-Of Sin cause me to go to Hell ? Please....no more evasion....give an on- looking World a simple, “ yes or no”...... thanks....
If someone has been born again, they will bear the fruit of the Spirit in such a situation (and therefore will not say the most vile words that one can imagine).

If they are not born again, then yes, they will go to hell.

Please note that it is not repentance alone that saves a man....it is being sanctified by the blood and the Holy Ghost.

If a man has been sanctified, he is not going to react in the same manner as one who has not been sanctified.

It is not that repenting after committing such a sin would save the man....the man would also have to appropriate the blood of Jesus Christ and receive the Holy Spirit so that if another, similar, situation were to occur, he would not react in the same manner.

So, it is not that the unrepented of sin would cause you to go to hell...what would cause you to go to hell would be the fact that you were never born again; which would be the root of your unrepented of sin.

Therefore, the technical answer to your question is "no"...while I think that you can see that the answer is also "yes" in an untechnical sense of looking at it (because the man's sin is the reason why he is shown to be not born again, which is the reason why he goes to hell).
 
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Are Faith and Repentance evangelical truths that must be preached ? The answer is absolutely yes, Jesus said Lk 24:47

And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

So its no doubt that sound Gospel preaching includes repentance. However where men go wrong is when they make repentance and or faith conditions for Justification before God ! They say that men and women for whom Christ died are not justified, made righteous before God without them ! They are in essence saying that everything Christ did for them in His Person and Work fell short in making them righteous/justified before God.1b
 

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Are Faith and Repentance evangelical truths that must be preached ? The answer is absolutely yes, Jesus said Lk 24:47

And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

So its no doubt that sound Gospel preaching includes repentance. However where men go wrong is when they make repentance and or faith conditions for Justification before God ! They say that men and women for whom Christ died are not justified, made righteous before God without them ! They are in essence saying that everything Christ did for them in His Person and Work fell short in making them righteous/justified before God.1b
It is the truth that a man is not born again / justified before God except through repentance and faith in Jesus and what He did for us on the Cross.