Repentance is the Gift Of God !

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It is the truth that a man is not born again / justified before God except through repentance and faith in Jesus and what He did for us on the Cross.
False, Repentance is given by Christ. Acts 5:31

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
 

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False, Repentance is given by Christ. Acts 5:31

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
That verse does not teach that a man must not repent in order to receive salvation.

In fact, it can be said from that verse that repentance comes first and forgiveness afterward as indicated by the order of mention.
 
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Sigh......let’s try it this way.....I am driving ....somebody pulls out in front of me and causes a MAJOR fender bender....I get VERY angry.....I say the most vile words that one can imagine ! I suddenly drop dead Of a heart attack before I have time to Repent....
Will that one UN Repented-Of Sin cause me to go to Hell ? Please....no more evasion....give an on- looking World a simple, “ yes or no”...... thanks....
BB , you forget who is in control . If one is truly a lamb , They would have repented and been restored .
You give scenarios of things that wont happen . GOD is in control of the very moment of ones death . OH YEAH HE IS .
And if one is a lamb they would continue , BY the indwelling Spirit to warn and remind all , REPENT if you do err .
I dont see the work of the Spirit in much of your reasoning . I See a trust in doctrines of men and acroynms .
But learn ye to TRUST IN JESUS . THE ONE who said , IF A MAN continues not in me , he shall be cast out .
IF we trust JESUS we take him at HIS every word and every warning . Just as we would the apostels .
If we trust men , then we allow them to twist scrips to suit our own ears .
 

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BB , you forget who is in control . If one is truly a lamb , They would have repented and been restored .
You give scenarios of things that wont happen . GOD is in control of the very moment of ones death . OH YEAH HE IS .
And if one is a lamb they would continue , BY the indwelling Spirit to warn and remind all , REPENT if you do err .
I dont see the work of the Spirit in much of your reasoning . I See a trust in doctrines of men and acroynms .
But learn ye to TRUST IN JESUS . THE ONE who said , IF A MAN continues not in me , he shall be cast out .
IF we trust JESUS we take him at HIS every word and every warning . Just as we would the apostels .
If we trust men , then we allow them to twist scrips to suit our own ears .


We can’t trust “ men”??? What are you ? A Cantaloupe ? Why listen to you...you’r just another “man” yourself....right?Thanks for the laugh and the False Gospel That accompanies it ...sorry that you don’t “see much of the Spirit “ in my reasonings .....perhaps it TAKES the Spirit to RECOGNIZE the Spirit...go away, please .....and take your Damnable Doctrine Of “Lucky Repentance” with you ....
 
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We can’t trust “ men”??? What are you ? A Cantaloupe ? Why listen to you...you’r just another “man” yourself....right?Thanks for the laugh and the False Gospel That accompanies it ...sorry that you don’t “see much of the Spirit “ in my reasonings .....perhaps it TAKES the Spirit to RECOGNIZE the Spirit...go away, please .....and take your Damnable Doctrine Of “Lucky Repentance” with you ....

Anybody who doesn't agree with you is preaching a false gospel and damnable doctrine.

:rolleyes:

Truly repentance is preached by Ezekiel in Ezekiel 33:11-20; but of course we must be aware that his words were not inspired of the Holy Spirit and therefore they aren't profitable for doctrine...not.

John the Baptist also preached that we must "bear fruits worthy of repentance" because "the axe is laid to the root of the trees"...

Surely he also was preaching A FALSE GOSPEL and THE DAMNABLE DOCTRINE OF LUCKY REPENTANCE.
 
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That would be “ ONE” definition of the word.....” Repent” in THaT manner all you like—- it won’t Save you....
It is the blood of Jesus that saves us...which will not be applied apart from "Lucky Repentance"...

Because the blood of Jesus has the effect of sanctifying us (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleansing us from all sin...

And if anyone is not willing to be delivered from sin, God is not going to do that against their will.

So He requires your permission to do the work of sanctification for that work to be done in your life.

Giving God that permission is called repentance in holy scripture...it means to make a 180-degree turn away from sin unto righteousness.

Of course the only way we can live righteously is to abide in Jesus as a branch in the vine (John 15:1-8).

Therefore, salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ. He gives us the Holy Spirit through faith (Galatians 3:14) and the love of the Lord is shed abroad in our hearts through the Holy Ghost (Romans 5:5). This love is practical (1 John 3:17-18) and it is the fulfilling of the righteousness of the law within us (Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 8:4).

Since sin is the transgression of the law (1 John 3:4); if we fulfill the righteousness of the law, we do not sin (see 1 John 3:9, 1 John 3:6, 1 John 2:17).

Thus, God delivers us from being sinners when we come to faith in Jesus Christ.

We are still sinners in that we have indwelling sin (1 John 1:8, 1 Timothy 1:15).

We are no longer sinners in that we do not have to commit sin ever again (John 8:31-36, 1 Corinthians 15:57).
 

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That verse does not teach that a man must not repent in order to receive salvation.

In fact, it can be said from that verse that repentance comes first and forgiveness afterward as indicated by the order of mention.
It teaches God freely gives repentance and forgiveness of sins to His Chosen,
 

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False, Repentance is given by Christ. Acts 5:31

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

It teaches God freely gives repentance and forgiveness of sins to His Chosen,

I don't see anything in that verse about anyone being "chosen".
 

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In Gospel preaching, instead of faith/repentance being conditions man must perform in order for God to justify them or make them righteous, they are to be acknowledged and received as Spiritual Blessings from Christ being risen as their Savor, along with remission of sins, as Peter points out in his sermon Acts 5:31

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.


The greek word give is the the verb didōmi and means:


  1. to give something to someone
    1. of one's own accord to give one something, to his advantage
      1. to bestow a gift


  1. to supply, furnish, necessary things

    The giving of these things are necessary in constituting Christ a Savior from sin !

    Faith and Repentance are necessary furnishings to do the will of God !2b
 

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I don't see anything in that verse about anyone being "chosen".
Israel is a chosen people Acts 5:31

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
 

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Israel is a chosen people Acts 5:31

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
So, does God not give repentance to Gentiles?

Are Gentiles chosen?

Are Gentiles forgiven?

I would merely point out that repentance comes before forgiveness in this verse.

Yes, repentance is given.

It must be received in order to be apprehended.
 

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Anybody who doesn't agree with you is preaching a false gospel and damnable doctrine.

:rolleyes:

Truly repentance is preached by Ezekiel in Ezekiel 33:11-20; but of course we must be aware that his words were not inspired of the Holy Spirit and therefore they aren't profitable for doctrine...not.

John the Baptist also preached that we must "bear fruits worthy of repentance" because "the axe is laid to the root of the trees"...

Surely he also was preaching A FALSE GOSPEL and THE DAMNABLE DOCTRINE OF LUCKY REPENTANCE.


Believing the Gospel Of Paul, ( 1Cor 15:1-4 ) Given to Him by Jesus personally, is what Saves Today, this side of the Cross.Period.
Repentance comes in three different “ Flavors” .....The “ Flavor “ That will Save you is that type Of Repentance That describes the “ mind change” ( metanoia) That takes you From a LOST UNBELIEVER in the Gospel To an actual BELIEVER in that Gospel ...
Yes, Believing in the Gospel is what Saves—- And The Faith in Christ and Him ALONE that this Gospel represents . John the Baptist’s “ Flavor” Of Repentance could have been to “turn to God”.... that is another type of Repentance and THAT is a type that will get you Saved ...if you “ turn to God “ He has Promised That He will “ Turn To You!”
If by “Repent” , John meant “ quit Sinning”—- by all means— QUIT SINNING! But please take note, John did NOT say “ Stop Sinning in order to become Saved!” That’s a great thing, to stop sinning! I wonder if it’s possible to do that . I’ve tried to do it .I’ve Failed at it . Miserably.How about you? So did John the Baptist.He lost his Faith in Jesus....he became a doubter.....he at the very least lost his Faith to the extent that he had to send his students to go and ask Jesus if He “ was REALLY the One”. Yep, John doubted and “ doubt” is the opposite of Faith.....”What is NOT of Faith is Sin!” Welcome to the club, John....
As I said, it is Faith in the Gospel that Saves.....not abandoning sin....not even “ Trying” to abandon sin.This is True because even if you WERE able to give up Sinning 100% ( and you can’t— wanna discuss those pesky Sins Of Omission? ) that simply is not the Criteria for getting Saved — it ain’t on the menu! Trying to be Perfect , trying to live above Sin would entail the “ keeping Of the Law” .....and according to Paul in Galatians 2:16 —- “ We know that No man is declared Righteous or will gain God’s approval by the Works Of The Law( trying to live by a set of standards) , he can ONLY be Saved by simply Believing, that is , putting his Total Trust in Jesus Christ to Save Him...
Don’t stand before God On Judgement Day sweating out whether or not you did an adequate job of “ giving up Sin” .....don’t find out that you “ lost the game” because you had been “playing by the WRONG RULES” your entire life.
“ The RIGHTEOUS ( those made fit for Heaven) shall live by FAITH” ..... Faith in Jesus....Plus Nothing......The Song had it Right all along —- “ Nothing But The Blood Of Jesus” .....you singvit—— you had better Believe it.....God Bless....
 
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But please take note, John did NOT say “ Stop Sinning in order to become Saved!”

Ezekiel did.

Eze 33:19, But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby.

That’s a great thing, to stop sinning! I wonder if it’s possible to do that . I’ve tried to do it .I’ve Failed at it . Miserably.

You just need the power of the Holy Ghost.

Have you been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins? (see Acts of the Apostles 2:38-39).

How about you?

The Lord has set me free from the power of sinning (John 8:31-36, 1 Corinthians 15:57).

As I said, it is Faith in the Gospel that Saves.....not abandoning sin....not even “ Trying” to abandon sin.This is True because even if you WERE able to give up Sinning 100% ( and you can’t— wanna discuss those pesky Sins Of Omission? )

Yes.

God has ordained that we should walk in specific works (Ephesians 2:10). A sin of omission is to not walk in a specific work that God has foreordained you should walk in. Therefore, if He has not called you to work in the soup kitchen tomorrow, it is not a sin of omission for you not to do so.

It is only a sin of omission if the Holy Spirit is leading you and guiding you to do something and you don't do it.

It is a doable thing to walk consistently in obedience to the Holy Spirit.

Trying to be Perfect , trying to live above Sin would entail the “ keeping Of the Law”

Actually, I think you are trying to obtain righteousness through the wrong venue.

It is not by attempting to obey a set of do's and don'ts that we obtain practical righteousness; but by being obedient to the leadings and promptings of the Holy Spirit in our lives. Therefore, it's by faith.

By walking not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4).

If we bear the fruit of the Spirit, our behaviour will not be in violation of any law (Galatians 5:22-23).

and according to Paul in Galatians 2:16 —- “ We know that No man is declared Righteous or will gain God’s approval by the Works Of The Law( trying to live by a set of standards) , he can ONLY be Saved by simply Believing, that is , putting his Total Trust in Jesus Christ to Save Him...

Yes...we obtain the Holy Spirit by faith (Galatians 3:14)...and the love of the Lord is shed abroad in our hearts through the Holy Ghost (Romans 5:5). This love is practical (1 John 3:17-18) and is the fulfilling of the law (Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 8:4).

And therefore the venue by which we obtain the righteousness of God, which is apart from the law, but to which that law and the prophets testify that it is righteousness indeed, is through faith: for through faith we receive the Holy Spirit (Galatians 3:14) and through the Holy Spirit we obtain the love of the Lord against which there is no law (Galatians 3:22-23).

This is to say that the law is indeed a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ (Galatians 3:24) in that it shows men that they are sinners in need of a Saviour (Romans 3:20) in order to convert their souls (Psalms 19:7 (kjv)).

Because they don't measure up to the law, it shows them that they are not walking according to the Spirit (which can only be obtained through faith in Jesus Christ) and therefore are not saved.

It is written,

Rom 8:12, Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13, For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14, For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

and,

Rom 8:4, That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
 
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So, does God not give repentance to Gentiles?

Are Gentiles chosen?

Are Gentiles forgiven?

I would merely point out that repentance comes before forgiveness in this verse.

Yes, repentance is given.

It must be received in order to be apprehended.

Yes Gentiles that are Chosen in Christ along with jews that are chosen in Christ,, thats the Israel of Acts 5:31, it was a mystery.
 

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Yes Gentiles that are Chosen in Christ along with jews that are chosen in Christ,, thats the Israel of Acts 5:31, it was a mystery.

I would merely point out that repentance comes before forgiveness in this verse.

Yes, repentance is given.

It must be received in order to be apprehended.
 

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That would be “ ONE” definition of the word.....” Repent” in THaT manner all you like—- it won’t Save you....
It's the act of that you are Saved, as to why you do repent as such.
To be truly saved one must know that Jesus is the Christ with 100% faith that it's a fact, then you will abide in him and him in you, then you will be serious about repentance. as before such as truly being born again one does not truly confess, because they do not truly know how too.

A water baptised confessing of Sins is a good thing, that can lead one on a path to dealing with Sin. if one rejects your Sins you will never rise above being Carnal.

The old RCC confession that we get from TV gangsters is a joke, that's not a worthy confession under the RC doctrine at all. just because one confessed something does not cut it at all, that's like robbing someone and confessing that you are sorry and still keep the money and walk off. their you go the debt has been payed ey ?
That's like the twerps that claim the debt was payed by Jesus blood, so it's a get out of Jail card for all regardless, even the Devil himself.
The Devil himself is saved ? no not at all. Jesus just exposed the creep for who he truly is, a titch in reality full of the art of delusions that the Carnal dolt suffers from, due to the ego driven deceptions about themselves. Due to The Stain of Original Sin that's a curse that's upon them.
 

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It's the act of that you are Saved, as to why you do repent as such.
To be truly saved one must know that Jesus is the Christ with 100% faith that it's a fact, then you will abide in him and him in you, then you will be serious about repentance. as before such as truly being born again one does not truly confess, because they do not truly know how too.

A water baptised confessing of Sins is a good thing, that can lead one on a path to dealing with Sin. if one rejects your Sins you will never rise above being Carnal.

The old RCC confession that we get from TV gangsters is a joke, that's not a worthy confession under the RC doctrine at all. just because one confessed something does not cut it at all, that's like robbing someone and confessing that you are sorry and still keep the money and walk off. their you go the debt has been payed ey ?
That's like the twerps that claim the debt was payed by Jesus blood, so it's a get out of Jail card for all regardless, even the Devil himself.
The Devil himself is saved ? no not at all. Jesus just exposed the creep for who he truly is, a titch in reality full of the art of delusions that the Carnal dolt suffers from, due to the ego driven deceptions about themselves. Due to The Stain of Original Sin that's a curse that's upon them.


I’m just half Of a “ Twerp”, I suppose .....I Believe the Blood covers all sins....just not the sins of any Fallen Angels— including Satan....
 
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