If you don't Believe and like Prosperity you won't like Heaven.

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The thorn was “a messenger of Satan” the the persecution of those demon inspired.
Keneth copeland and the lott of those false prosperity preachers are the ones who are demon inspired . NOT paul .
THEY are . they are charlatons and i will expose them just as i do rome .
 
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"Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk." Acts 3:6
Well today the prosperity money hungry preaches sure cannot say that . FOR silver and gold they have plenty .
THEY also cant say arise and walk either . THEY sold out my friend . But lambs WE CLING TO JESUS . HE IS OUR TREASURE .
 
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Amadeus . Folks are gonna do and love what folks are gonna do and love . but lambs are gonna do and love what JESUS said to DO .
HE alone is our hope . Now let those hands fly up and the praises out unto our glorious LORD .
 
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Well today the prosperity money hungry preaches sure cannot say that . FOR silver and gold they have plenty .
THEY also cant say arise and walk either . THEY sold out my friend . But lambs WE CLING TO JESUS . HE IS OUR TREASURE .
Too many people clinging to the temporal things of this world instead of seeking His face. Not likely to ever attain to a face to face vision in temporal things. This world is not my home, I'm just passing through...
 

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From what I see Bible prosperity preachers seem to be very happy and greatly blessed!!! And you??
 

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The prosperity of God is technically : 2 - Fold..... Two things...

1.) Its "God's riches in Glory" that He provides, and 2.) its "abundance" or "the favor of God" that plays out in your life.

God's riches in Glory would manifest as : healing, health, wisdom, Revelation (light), Grace, The Blood Atonement, Hope, Justification by Faith, and the "finished work of Jesus on the Cross".....are a few "riches in Glory", provided to you.

The Abundance of God, is "will provide for your need" and "give you the desire of your heart".....and "its God that gives you to power to make or manifest wealth or money".
This means, supernatural provision on earth, from God, to you.

Does God expect you to have money?
Yes He does.
How do you know? Its because God expects you to GIVE.
Giving is not just related to deeds, regarding the spiritual context.....it also means to SUPPLY with goods and money.

The early Church gave finances to the Apostles.
And Paul teaches that we are to pay our Ministers.

So, here the thing..
Money is not the issue....... The issue is if the person can deal with money.


Now, there are 2 wrong ways to deal with the theology of income or harvest or favor..

1.) The Poverty Gospel.

This is the false gospel that teaches you that you become more spiritual if you live in poverty.

Now, i can promise you that living in poverty, does not make you a better Christian, it just makes you a bitter human being, because true poverty....is slow torture.
And you have to use some wisdom, saint........And ask yourself....What FATHER wants his children to be broke and suffering, 24/7.
Do you want this for your children?
So, do you think Father God wants it for his?
Listen, i just gave a little bit of money to a poor person today, who is on the street.
Do you think this person is being made "More spiritual" when they sleep on asphalt and have no way to take a bath?
C'mon..

Next..

2.) The Prosperity Gospel.

So, this one has issues, not because of the idea of God's Favor, but because it runs into the ditch when the idea of God's favor is = "giving to get".
So, when a person is being taught that the reason you give, is to GET BACK..........then you are teaching GREED.
And that is the real issue with the Prosperity Gospel.
Its the way its taught.....as it causes millions of people to think of "giving to get", as the reason you are to give.
And THAT is wrong.
 

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The prosperity of God is technically : 2 - Fold..... Two things...

1.) Its "God's riches in Glory" that He provides, and 2.) its "abundance" or "the favor of God" that plays out in your life.

God's riches in Glory would manifest as : healing, health, wisdom, Revelation (light), Grace, The Blood Atonement, Hope, Justification by Faith, and the "finished work of Jesus on the Cross".....are a few "riches in Glory", provided to you.

The Abundance of God, is "will provide for your need" and "give you the desire of your heart".....and "its God that gives you to power to make or manifest wealth or money".
This means, supernatural provision on earth, from God, to you.

Does God expect you to have money?
Yes He does.
How do you know? Its because God expects you to GIVE.
Giving is not just related to deeds, regarding the spiritual context.....it also means to SUPPLY with goods and money.

The early Church gave finances to the Apostles.
And Paul teaches that we are to pay our Ministers.

So, here the thing..
Money is not the issue....... The issue is if the person can deal with money.


Now, there are 2 wrong ways to deal with the theology of income or harvest or favor..

1.) The Poverty Gospel.

This is the false gospel that teaches you that you become more spiritual if you live in poverty.

Now, i can promise you that living in poverty, does not make you a better Christian, it just makes you a bitter human being, because true poverty....is slow torture.
And you have to use some wisdom, saint........And ask yourself....What FATHER wants his children to be broke and suffering, 24/7.
Do you want this for your children?
So, do you think Father God wants it for his?
Listen, i just gave a little bit of money to a poor person today, who is on the street.
Do you think this person is being made "More spiritual" when they sleep on asphalt and have no way to take a bath?
C'mon..

Next..

2.) The Prosperity Gospel.

So, this one has issues, not because of the idea of God's Favor, but because it runs into the ditch when the idea of God's favor is = "giving to get".
So, when a person is being taught that the reason you give, is to GET BACK..........then you are teaching GREED.
And that is the real issue with the Prosperity Gospel.
Its the way its taught.....as it causes millions of people to think of "giving to get", as the reason you are to give.
And THAT is wrong.

It is Not Giving to get but you will get if you give!!!
Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use(give), it will be measured to you." Luke 6:38
 

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It is Not Giving to get but you will get if you give!!!
Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use(give), it will be measured to you." Luke 6:38

Its true that you can't out-give God.
Its also true that everything that you own, belongs to God, including you.
Even you, if you are born again, are "bought with a price, and belong to God.

When we tithe, or give, or give offerings, we are actually giving God's money back to Him, as that deed.
That is why increase happens. ITs because when we do good, or when we give, .. its all God involved..... that we are giving... as its all His we are doing or giving.
So, everything that God is involved in, increases, and never does it decrease.
Thats a spiritual principle, .. that is called LIFE. As everything that God touches, LIVES and BLOOMS and GROWS..

An example? When Jesus called Lazarus out of the tomb, He had to be careful to call his name, as if Christ had only said..."come forth", then all Graves in the universe would have opened and, here they come.

See, that is LIFE.....John 14:6 and .that is the principle that God exists within........in that everything about God is LIFE and LIFE and LIFE.

Christ said when we give.. we are doing it unto Him......so, that means that its all a circle....its a never ending going to and coming from......God.
Thats why its always an increase, as whatever God touches or is involved with, increases.= LIFE.

But here is the issue with the "prosperity gospel"........
If a person teaches it the wrong way..........>"you give to get".....>"you give a seed to create a harvest"......
Well that is true, but if that teaching is not presented as....explaining that the giving is a HEART Situation, and a MOTIVE Situation, that God SEES inside us.......
So, if your motive to give is GREED.......then this becomes the BIG issue with wrongly presenting the theology of seed-time and harvest.
 

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Its true that you can't out-give God.
Its also true that everything that you own, belongs to God, including you.
Even you, if you are born again, are "bought with a price, and belong to God.

When we tithe, or give, or give offerings, we are actually giving God's money back to Him, as that deed.
That is why increase happens. ITs because when we do good, or when we give, .. its all God involved..... that we are giving... as its all His we are doing or giving.
So, everything that God is involved in, increases, and never does it decrease.
Thats a spiritual principle, .. that is called LIFE. As everything that God touches, LIVES and BLOOMS and GROWS..

An example? When Jesus called Lazarus out of the tomb, He had to be careful to call his name, as if Christ had only said..."come forth", then all Graves in the universe would have opened and, here they come.

See, that is LIFE.....John 14:6 and .that is the principle that God exists within........in that everything about God is LIFE and LIFE and LIFE.

Christ said when we give.. we are doing it unto Him......so, that means that its all a circle....its a never ending going to and coming from......God.
Thats why its always an increase, as whatever God touches or is involved with, increases.= LIFE.

But here is the issue with the "prosperity gospel"........
If a person teaches it the wrong way..........>"you give to get".....>"you give a seed to create a harvest"......
Well that is true, but if that teaching is not presented as....explaining that the giving is a HEART Situation, and a MOTIVE Situation, that God SEES inside us.......
So, if your motive to give is GREED.......then this becomes the BIG issue with wrongly presenting the theology of seed-time and harvest.

YES!!Beware! Anything can be taught and acted on in a wrong way even the Bible.
 

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Tithe...2 Corinthians chapters 8 & 9.
You guys like my avatar?
I think it's pretty cool...that I'm a new covenant Levite! :)
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I used to defend the prosperity gospel on here and sorry if I misled anyone with my earlier comments on threads like these, but I have backed away from it, as I saw the mess last year with prosperity preachers spreading false information about covid-19 and the Presidential election, they also tied themselves too close to Trump, trying to tickle his ears and please him, it was like the rich and famous hanging out with the rich and famous...

My comments defending megachurch pastors buying 50 million dollar jets was wrong, 50 million dollars is better spent helping out the poor and hungry, 50 million dollars could go a long way in countries in Africa and Asia, 50 million dollars could go a long way in the mission fields.

One does not need to hide himself and shouldn't need to hide himself from the common men and women on a commercial aircraft, that could be used as an evangelism opportunity.

In these times we need humble men and women of God.
 
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In these times we need humble men and women of God.
God BLESS your honking BIG Australian HEART ( not actually sure what a honking big anything is but I have heard it used as meaning extra big ... like in humungous which is actually the word I should have used... LOL )

OH yes... God allows us to be changed... REDEEMED... if only we will humble ourselves....
YOU just made my day..... and I doth loveth my Australian brother very much.... :D
 
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Keneth copeland and the lott of those false prosperity preachers are the ones who are demon inspired . NOT paul .
THEY are . they are charlatons and i will expose them just as i do rome .
We are on the same page regarding this issue....
 

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YES!!Beware! Anything can be taught and acted on in a wrong way even the Bible.

The devil has been studying the bible a lot longer then any of us...so, he understands where to take a person to confuse them, and ruin them, theologically.
He has millions, ruined, and he has most of them preaching his gospel of self saving Legalism.
 
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I used to defend the prosperity gospel on here and sorry if I misled anyone with my earlier comments on threads like these, but I have backed away from it, as I saw the mess last year with prosperity preachers spreading false information about covid-19 and the Presidential election, they also tied themselves too close to Trump, trying to tickle his ears and please him, it was like the rich and famous hanging out with the rich and famous...

My comments defending megachurch pastors buying 50 million dollar jets was wrong, 50 million dollars is better spent helping out the poor and hungry, 50 million dollars could go a long way in countries in Africa and Asia, 50 million dollars could go a long way in the mission fields.

One does not need to hide himself and shouldn't need to hide himself from the common men and women on a commercial aircraft, that could be used as an evangelism opportunity.

In these times we need humble men and women of God.

Who wants to think and do as Judas??? Judas also said, " that oil you anointed Jesus with could have been sold and given to the poor".
 

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Who wants to think and do as Judas??? Judas also said, " that oil you anointed Jesus with could have been sold and given to the poor".
REALLY ??????????? You're going to lambaste him with that ??? You have accused him of denying the deity of Christ.... NOT COOL
 

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From what I see Bible prosperity preachers seem to be very happy and greatly blessed!!! And you??
You better read the pslams about that one . What did the man see , then what did he see after he entered into the tabernacle of GOD .
He saw the wicked with much money , having it easy in this life , but then he saw their end .
THEY have been delivered over unto a delusion . And all they money wont deliver them from the wrath of GOD .
Ya should have fled them false prosperity things . They are infected with satan .
GOD will answer them according to the idols of their heart . But their end will be destruction .