'In Christ Jesus our Lord'

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charity

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'And in that day ye shall ask Me nothing.
Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in My name, He will give it you.
Hitherto have ye asked nothing in My name:
ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.'

(John 16:23-24)

Hello there,

If the subject of this thread is deemed to be inappropiate, and deleted, I will understand. I do not know where else to place it on the forum.

Yesterday I watched the inauguration ceremony of the President of the USA, and listened to the prayers offered at the invocation and Benediction. and found myself thinking back to the cathedral remembrance service held after 9/11 in 2001, when the then President read from Romans 8.:35-39

'Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?
shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, -------------- '


* The President read up until the last seven vital words, - 'which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.'. Those were omitted.

* Yesterday, in the prayers offered, I do not recollect the name of Christ Jesus our risen Lord being mentioned (if I am wrong please tell me). The prayers were not offered in His Name. Yet, He is the way the truth and the life, and no man cometh unto the Father but by Him.

* I can only think, that on both occasions, at the 9/11 remembrance service and at the Inauguration it was because those represented were of mixed faiths, and that by naming the Lord Jesus Christ, a large number of those that heard would have been alienated by it, being of other faiths. Yet that does not excuse it, does it?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 

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I can only think, that on both occasions, at the 9/11 remembrance service and at the Inauguration it was because those represented were of mixed faiths, and that by naming the Lord Jesus Christ, a large number of those that heard would have been alienated by it, being of other faiths. Yet that does not excuse it, does it?

No I don't think it does excuse it. It's like in a lot of towns in the UK which have 'winter festivals' now instead of Christmas festivals. People should not be offended by the name of Jesus. If they are then it is for them to work out why. But I don't think we should pander to people of other faiths or none.
 

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No I don't think it does excuse it. It's like in a lot of towns in the UK which have 'winter festivals' now instead of Christmas festivals. People should not be offended by the name of Jesus. If they are then it is for them to work out why. But I don't think we should pander to people of other faiths or none.
Hello @Pearl

Thank you for responding.

It comes under the heading of 'Political Correctness' I think. Yet, in regard to the 9/11 remembrance service, and the reading from Romans 8:35-39, without those seven vital words, 'which is in Christ Jesus our Lord,' it makes what is said within it null and void. Also, our access to the Father, in prayer, is ours 'in Christ Jesus', and through His Name. Without Him, will those prayers be heard, or if heard, answered?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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'And in that day ye shall ask Me nothing.
Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in My name, He will give it you.
Hitherto have ye asked nothing in My name:
ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.'

(John 16:23-24)

Hello there,

If the subject of this thread is deemed to be inappropiate, and deleted, I will understand. I do not know where else to place it on the forum.

Yesterday I watched the inauguration ceremony of the President of the USA, and listened to the prayers offered at the invocation and Benediction. and found myself thinking back to the cathedral remembrance service held after 9/11 in 2001, when the then President read from Romans 8.:35-39

'Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?
shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, -------------- '


* The President read up until the last seven vital words, - 'which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.'. Those were omitted.

* Yesterday, in the prayers offered, I do not recollect the name of Christ Jesus our risen Lord being mentioned (if I am wrong please tell me). The prayers were not offered in His Name. Yet, He is the way the truth and the life, and no man cometh unto the Father but by Him.

* I can only think, that on both occasions, at the 9/11 remembrance service and at the Inauguration it was because those represented were of mixed faiths, and that by naming the Lord Jesus Christ, a large number of those that heard would have been alienated by it, being of other faiths. Yet that does not excuse it, does it?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Also, our access to the Father, in prayer, is ours 'in Christ Jesus', and through His Name.


2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.


2 Timothy 2:19 Lexicon: Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness."
 
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Politically correct but devoid of the Spirit of God, missing the name by which alone we may be saved?

"...by the name of Jesus Christ...Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:10,12

Free to speak so long as we do not offend whom? Those who believe differently than we do even if it means offending the Almighty God?

"Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!" Matt 18:7
 

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Romans 12:2 (kjv)

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"