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Addy

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All right! Before you get all defensive on me! This is not aimed at you. The original post is about execution...that means killing people.
The failure of logic for those that are against killing murders but supporting the holocaust of killing babies is part of the conversation.
HAHA @you.... I am not getting defensive... You quoted "me" with your statement. LOL ... I actually enjoy good conversation... and so far... this is good conversation.... again... I am surprised ( not shocked LOL ) that the death penalty topic would be equated with abortion. They are separate topics and seemed to be illustrated in this thread as one action justifying another action.

I am not stating that Mr. Trump did wrong by ordering these executions... I am just expressing the fact that he did... and not only did he... HE broke historical records.

It's all good. We are good.... God is good... my lunch is going to be good... LOL
 

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“I think the issue becomes a woman's rights to control her body....”
Yes.... that is the issue.... I think that is the issue... otherwise it would NOT be an issue needed to be settled in court.... This statement in no way reflects my opinion. You are being a naughty yellow bird.. LOL

***For the sake of keeping the peace.... I took a partial quote from a comment that @Prayer Warrior made to me.... the QUOTE is NOT... I repeat... they are NOT Prayer Warriors words... they are MINE.

Uh, this is what you said, and I quote, “I think the issue becomes a woman's rights to control her body....”
Ok... so... here is what happened.... I always quote EXACTLY and only what I want to reply to.... and so I guess it appears to have offended someone... and for that I am sorry. So above is what you said to me @Prayer Warrior and I just took the quote. Anyone following this conversation would have picked up on that. I hope this makes you feel better.
 
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All things in context of course. This is one of the reasons that you have to be suspicious of people quoting statistics and surveys. There is really no words in our language to describe the depths of this evil. No horror or event in history compares. These numbers would challenge the total death tolls of all the wars in recorded history....one big difference, it counts the death of innocence....footprints of Satan. For a Christian to vote for such a thing......

Reported Annual Abortions – 1973-2015


YEAR GI.................CDC
1973
744,610.... ...615,831
1974 898,570 ......763,476
1975 1,034,170....854,853
1976 1,179,300 ...988,267
1977 1,316,700 1,079,430
1978 1,409,600 1,157,776
1979 1,497,670 1,251,921
1980 1,553,890 1,297,606
1981 1,577,340 1,300,760
1982 1,573,920 1,303,980
1983 1,575,000 1,268,987
1984 1,577,180 1,333,521
1985 1,588,550 1,328,570
1986 1,574,000 1,328,112
1987 1,559,110 1,353,671
1988 1,590,750 1,371,285
1989 1,566,900 1,396,658
1990 1,608,600 1,429,247
1991 1,556,510 1,388,937
1992 1,528,930 1,359,146
1993 1,495,000 1,330,414
1994 1,423,000 1,267,415
1995 1,359,400 1,210,883
1996 1,360,160 1,225,937
1997 1,335,000 1,186,039
1998 1,319,000 884,273 *
1999 1,314,800 861,789 *
2000 1,312,990 857,475 *
2001 1,291,000 853,485 *
2002 1,269,000 854,122 *
2003 1,250,000 848,163 *
2004 1,222,100 839,226 *
2005 1,206,200 820,151 *
2006 1,242,200 846,181 *
2007 1,209,640 827,609 *
2008 1,212,350 825,564 *
2009 1,151,600 789,116 *
2010 1,102,670 765,651 *
2011 1,058,490 730,322 *
2012 1,011,000 699,202 *
2013 958,700 664,435 *
2014 926,190 652,639 *
2015 899,500 638,169 *
2016 874,100 623,471 *
2017 862,320 612,719 *
2018 862,320 619,820 *

U.S. Abortion Statistics By Year (1973-Current)
Thanks for posting this!

Someone might look at these numbers and say how great it is that fewer babies were murdered in some recent years compared to earlier years. BUT ONE MURDERED BABY IS TOO MANY!
 
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Yes.... that is the issue.... I think that is the issue... otherwise it would NOT be an issue needed to be settled in court.... This statement in no way reflects my opinion. You are being a naughty yellow bird.. LOL
Would you please change your post and show that the quoted sentence is yours, not mine!

Right, who’s being naughty!!!!!

BTW, I reported your post.
 

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Uh, this is what you said, and I quote, “I think the issue becomes a woman's rights to control her body....”
Post #60.... I took the quote from your post.... but YES... they were my original words... YOU quoted me. I am not going to turn this thread into an argument with anyone.... You stated that you have reported me... Let nature take its course... Bless you.
 

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Bingo!
You prove my point about people that oppose executions. No concerned for the person that he murdered.
A lot of the people that oppose executions support abortions. As far as I am concerned it is a logic failure.
This is very true I have yet to meet a person that believes abortion is ok and execution is not ok. The two go hand in hand.
 
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Post #60.... I took the quote from your post.... but YES... they were my original words... YOU quoted me. I am not going to turn this thread into an argument with anyone.... You stated that you have reported me... Let nature take its course... Bless you.
You need to change your post #62 immediately showing that the quoted material is what you said, not what I said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I believe the drop in abortions is more of a reflection on society's views on life rather than anything the government does.

I think it probably has to do with that AND* with the open use of and availability of contraception. Teenagers can go the nurses office in most schools and just ask for it. Birth control pills can be given without parental consent. And I am against neither, because I had my first pregnancy at 17, despite growing up with the "wait until you're married" thing but was undereducated in these things and kicked out too early to know what to do with myself. I waited until I was 17. Just so everyone knows, antibiotics will interfere with birth control. Who knew.

I can tell you one thing right now. Neither Bill Clinton or Obama were standing in corner of every teenage girl's room to give a PSA on celibacy.

Birth control has always been around. Queen Anne's Lace seeds can be used as a natural form of birth control and have been used for a long, long, long time. (Not recommended but just saying.)

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I can't say too much on the Trump/execution thing. I'll look into it. I do remember the five executions, but also other countries s seem to have a difference of opinion on the matters of the death penalty than Americans. They're more sensitive.

Would actually need to know what they did before I decide if I'm mad about it. Today it's a "go to sleep" shot. Hundreds of years ago, it was "Let's go get a hot dog to watch the hanging," and it would be a public event. That sounds brutal and horrific, but historically, that's what happened.
 
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You need to change your post #62 immediately showing that the quoted material is what you said, not what I said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I always quote according to what I want to address.... It saves time....

Again... I will state.... that the original QUOTE was mine.... I took it from part of a quote you made to me.
 

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I always quote according to what I want to address.... It saves time....

Again... I will state.... that the original QUOTE was mine.... I took it from part of a quote you made to me.
Are you going to show that the original quote is your or not?
 

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You need to change your post #62 immediately showing that the quoted material is what you said, not what I said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You need to ask her to delete it.
This might not be her fault.
I have had the site to this to me on several occasions.
One of the reasons I copy and paste rather than use the quote function.
 

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You need to ask her to delete it.
This might not be her fault.
I have had the site to this to me on several occasions.
One of the reasons I copy and paste rather than use the quote function.
I asked her to edit it, and she is not doing that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Besides Trump was actually doing what Gods design is for governments right to bear the sword( capital punishment )

Romans 13
Every person is to be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; 4 for it is a servant of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a servant of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. 5 Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for the sake of conscience.

Genesis 9:6
“Whoever sheds human blood,
by humans shall their blood be shed;
for in the image of God
has God made mankind.


we must recognize that God has given government the authority to determine when capital punishment is due (Genesis 9:6; Romans 13:1-7). It is unbiblical to claim that God opposes the death penalty in all instances. Christians should never rejoice when the death penalty is employed, but at the same time, Christians should not fight against the government’s right to execute the perpetrators of the most evil of crimes.got?

hope this helps !!!
 
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