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jaybird
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i agree, it creates a big distraction, ever since rome invented the trinity 400 years after Jesus people have been persecuted, killed and argue the nature of Jesus, something Jesus spent little time teaching on if He spent any time at all on it.
Mat_1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Mat_12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?
Mat_20:31 And the multitude rebuked them, because they should hold their peace: but they cried the more, saying, Have mercy on us, O Lord, thou Son of David.
Mat_22:42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David.
Rom_1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
Luk_1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Rev_22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
But believe as you wilt
Joh_8:54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
Joh_5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.
Joh_6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
Joh_8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Jesus is the answer for the world today, above Him there's no other, Jesus is the Way.
WaterSong
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Perhaps it isn't crystal clear to you because you fail to realize "the Most High" does not appear in the scripture I shared.
Whereas, as with John 1, Jesus' words in John 10:30 is also crystal clear. "I and the Father are one.”
John 1:1,2
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…
John 8:58
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Exodus 3 Moses said to God, "Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, `The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, `What is his name?' Then what shall I tell them?" God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: `I AM has sent me to you.
WaterSong
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Hmm, seemed to work for you when you challenged Christophany to provide scripture for their claim.
Were you using your kids coloring book when you answered them?
jaybird
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no its not crystal clear because it is not crystal clear, do you know what crystal clear means? if you asked me what color my truck is and i told you a flock of ducks flies under the full moon, this might mean blue in my world, but its not the same as me saying my truck is blue.
why dont you let Christophany take care of his self and stop dodging the question.
WaterSong
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My comments don't imply they can't speak for themselves. Those were my words. And no dodge here. I did answer the question. Don't whine because you don't like the answer nor accept that Jesus was God.
The Bible says it. That's what is also crystal clear. You don't appreciate that fact. That too is crystal clear.
It is written,
Mat 22:41, While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
Mat 22:42, Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David.
Mat 22:43, He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,
Mat 22:44, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Mat 22:45, If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
What is your answer to Jesus' question?
My answer is that He is both man and God...as is demonstrated by the doctrine of the hypostatic union (which is sound doctrine by every standard in the church).
You have to realize that Jesus is distinct from the Father according to sound doctrine; in that He is come in the flesh while the Father inhabits eternity.
I believe that Jesus and the Father are the same Spirit (John 4:23-24, John 14:7-11; John 4:24, Ephesians 4:4, Hebrews 1:8-9).
You may be able to call yourself a Christian; however you are not born again if you deny the Deity of Christ as a doctrine. For Jesus said that if you do not believe that He is the great I AM, you will die in your sins.
Sure it does.
Jhn 8:24, I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Jhn 8:25, Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
Jhn 8:26, I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
Jhn 8:27, They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
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In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was GOD
teamventure
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He who denies the father and son is a liar and of the spirit of antichrist
Amen to thatJesus is the answer for the world today, above Him there's no other, Jesus is the Way.
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