Israel to be kept safe during the Great Tribulation

Bobby Jo said:

I would observe that ALL are already going through the Tribulation and none will be "kept safe", particularly Israel, but also the church.

So exactly how many U.S. Presidential Elections have historically been STOLEN? And how many "NEWS" Media have historically reported DISINFORMATION? And how many times have Churches historically been CLOSED? And how many times historically have Businesses been CLOSED? And how many times have Criminals historically been INTENTIONALLY not Prosecuted? And how many time have Innocent Citizens historically been FALSELY Prosecuted? ... And so forth ...

Matt. 16:3 ... you can't discern the signs of the times! ...​

Maybe we should try???
Bobby Jo

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We are to expect tribulations, the Great Tribulation is the one Paul foretold in 2.Thessalonians .2.

Reggie Belafonte said:

No one is going to be kept safe in this world.
I know of people who claim that they are working to create the hellfire on the world they are all socialistic dictating types who are demanding. Now they support the Godless type of Jews ? Godless people work to empower them. it's all to create the hellfire.
They claim that they are going to be raptured out and saved from any harm, but the fact remains that you reap what you sow. they will be dealt with and suffer the fait in doing the works of the Devil.
One can not serve two masters ?
And in the Hellfire even Good Christians will suffer as well and even die, starve to death or be killed, but that's not the point of the message, it's that such can not kill the Soul of one truly in Christ, such are saved. you may loose your life, but such will gain a life in Heaven, so a true devout Christian does not fear for this life, in the same regard as a Carnal person does.
A Carnal person never had a real life worthy of God as they are a curse as we know many who claim to be Christians are not at all, because Jesus said so. you must truly be born again and it's only then that one will not be tempted like a fool running about loose doing works of Man and this world under the power of Satan.
Two wrongs do not make a right.
I have dealt with such bastards who idolise the so called Jews, but they truly only use such Jews for the game play. they really hate me and make such stupid statements, Oh never question a Jew or you better not bag the Jews, they use such deranged tactics to put fear into fools, They know my sir name is Jewish ! but try to push me around as if I was lower then they and they are not Jewish at all. Talk about morons !
What they truly are is the Satanic mouth peace claiming to be Jews, as always was, in leading all astray.
I know them by their works. They know that they are Rothschild's Satanist doing worldly works, Pope Francis was on TV giving Lord Rothschild his allegiance, just as in the same way Popes underlings do to the Pope when he sits in the chair and they come and kiss his ring.

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Jeremiah [God] says to Israel concerning the Great Tribulation "Fear not O Jacob nor be dismayed O Israel for I will save thee .... none shall make you afraid"

Keraz said:

Correct BJ, excepting that we will be forever on earth, with God. Revelation 21:1-7

ISRAEL, the Israel of God, Galatians 6:14-16; His faithful Christian peoples are His Witnesses. Isaiah 43:10, John 15:27

You haven't researched the effects of CME, it can and will fulfill Zechariah 14:12-15
A nuke, even many nukes would still only affect a small portion of the world. Only a big CME will literally fulfil all the graphic prophesies about the Day the Lord strikes the earth. Isaiah 24:1-6, Revelation 6:12-17

Isaiah 22 is a Bible chapter. It says what it means. But Romans 9:27 does say that a remnant of the Jews will survive.
It does not say that Jerusalem will be eternally destroyed.

The time of the gentiles, Revelation 11:2, is the final 42 months before Jesus Returns.

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Did you know the Jews are witnesses to Christ? oh yes, it is what we may call a negative witness but it is extremely powerful and effective and has been during the 2 millennia of their wandering HOW?

How? because everybody knows why they were chucked out of the promised land and made to wander. Everybody knows it was because they rebelled against their God and rejected His Christ.

In chapters 9-10 of Romans Paul sets out his doctrine concerning Israel, he does so using his favourite method of argument which is rhetoric, that is to say he puts forward false propositions and places them beside what is the truth e.g. "I say then has Israel stumbled so as to fall? God forbid"

Has Israel stumbled so as to fall? YOU say they have, Paul says God forbid, his strongest epithet. Romans chapter 11 is the summing up of Paul's arguments in chapters 9-10 and is the chapter we must read to draw our conclusions from to discover what Israel's true status is.

Paul speaks about a remnant so let's understand this remnant. Isaiah cried "if God had not left us a remnant we would have fared as Sodom and been made as Gomorrah" That is to say completely overthrown and destroyed. But Israel has not been overthrown or destroyed. The purpose of the remnant is to save the whole. In Elijah's day the remnant were 700 who had not bowed the knee to baal or kissed him, it was these 700 who through Elijah in time turned the whole nation back to Jahweh God at Mt Carmel.

Israel has not stumbled so as to fall. They have been miraculously preserved as a nation during 2, 000 years of dispersal.

In his summing up in Romans 11. Paul asks "now if their trespass means riches for the world and if their failure means riches for the Gentiles HOW MUCH MORE will their full inclusion mean?"

"if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?"

We know that during the gospel age only those who receive Jesus as their Lord are saved whether Jew or Gentile but Paul points to a time of their full inclusion, their acceptance. Look at what he says, their acceptance will mean life from the dead, WOW

WOW ... no resurrection until the Jews are converted ... I mean resurrection of the righteous of course not our Lord's resurrection, we know He is raised.

Paul specifically warns us against being wise in our own conceits concerning Israel.
Romans.11.25.
Lest ye be wise in your own conceits I want you to understand this mystery brethren. A hardening has come upon part of Israel until the full number of the Gentiles come in and so ALL Israel will be saved as it is written "The Deliverer will come from Zion He will banish ungodliness from Jacob and this will be My covenant with them when I take away their sins"

Reggie Belafonte said:

All are not Israel who say they are.
Around 90% of people in the Jewish State are not worthy of Judaism in fact let alone God in the OT.
Only a Satanist would look to the cursed Jews for Salvation. not to mention any worthy Christian who is born again knows and is kept by Jesus Christ regardless, not to mention such a one does not fear this life, because such a one knows that they are Saved.
You must be truly born again to be Saved, that does not mean that you will not be killed or harmed, but that your Soul is safe.

If people fear the Anti-Christ for your flesh you are not born again.
If you fear Satanist and lay down to them like a mongrel dog your Soul is not saved. you will reap what you sow.

The Jews could not save themselves let alone anyone. They need a Saviour ! one must look.

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What about YOU before you were saved? were YOU any good? were any of us any good before we were converted?

When we turned to Christ everything changed.

Daniel says "they shall look upon Him whom they have pierced and mourn for Him as for a firstborn son" God [he says] will pour out upon Israel a spirit of compassion and supplication and they will pray. The WHOLE nation will pray, every family, the men separated from the women will pray and the women separated from the men will pray.

Israel as a nation is to turn to Christ as their Saviour. .... are you glad about that?

n2thelight said:

Only the Elect will reign with Christ and they are not just Jew's ..The Jew's make up only 2 houses .

Now let's look at this blindness

Romans 11:25 "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in."

The blindness is the stupor that God sent upon those that cannot understand the plan of God, and see the prophetic signs around them. Remember Luke 21:24; "And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." Christ is going to return to earth at the fullness of the Gentiles.

What happens then?

Romans 11:26 "And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, "There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:"

Romans 11:27 "For this is My covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins."

This happens at the end of the Millennium age, not now, nor in the flesh. Why will this be? Because in the Millennium age all souls will be in their incorruptible bodies, and they will know Satan for what he is, as liar and deceiver, and they will have known Jesus Christ personally for that thousand year period.

This is the same as Paul wrote in Thessalonians

II Thessalonians 2:10 "And with all deceivableness [deceit] of unrighteousness in [for] them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth,"

II Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion [send them a working of error], that they should a lie;"

Jew's will NOT be saved just because they are Jew's ALL must believe in Christ , one can't wait till Christ returns and then say I believe .

They were broken off of their own tree ,whom is the Tree of Life and the only way to get grafted back on is to believe in Christ, Period!!!

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I am glad you mention ELECTION, election is everything in bible doctrine. It is God's sovereign choice, election means choice.

Paul talks about Israel's election, let's see what he says.
Romans 11.28-29.
As regards the gospel they are enemies of God for your sake but as touching election they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gift and the call of God are irrovocable.

WOW, God calls them His beloved. WOW He has not revoked His gift and call.

We's saved one by one as God elects us or chooses us to be saved but Israel is elect as a nation. They were chosen [as we individually are chosen] before they did anything right or wrong. The basis, the only basis. for salvation for them or us is God's sovereign choice, His grace, His mercy.

Before they did right or wrong, before they either accepted Christ or rejected Him .

The church must learn that Israel's disobedience and failure was predetermined by God Himself and so will their eventual salvation be according to His promise.

Even when they did evil, God turned it around for good, even when they did the greatest evil, God turned it around for the greatest good.

n2thelight said:

Before we were saved is not the point , people seem 2 think Jew's will be saved just because . Unless they accept Christ, they won't be, nor will anyone else.

That kenite state of Israel don't believe in Christ, therefore they CAN'T be His.
Yes all can turn to Christ and I wish and hope they will , just like everybody else

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Can't you recognize a Jew? Hitler knew who they were, he knew who to pin a yellow badge on.

The Jews have a shibboleth, that is a certain something, a click in their speech by which they know whether or not a person is a true Jew.