Hebrews 10:26-31

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Also imparted (1 John 3:7, Romans 5:19, Matthew 5:6).

That we are "declared righteous" (justified) means also that we are made righteous.

For it is impossible for God to lie (Hebrews 6:18, Titus 1:2); and it should be clear that He calls those things which be not as though they are (Romans 4:17).

Or as you most famously put it except for last Thursday...You can't just throw verses around, You need to look at the meaning and context of words or you will end up in the land of lucky-repentance and not know how to get out....Trigger warning The Repentance that Saves Is Turning To Jesus, From unbelief to Belief in Him, By Grace Are you Saved..............Pause there and look at it.........Through Faith, In what...Hint( In Jesus)

You no what Maybe I might Start A Seminar( cant call it a ministry) Here Called NotJustbyfaithandluckyrepentance and take you on as As co-leader under me as leader So I can teach you some basics, As you have set yourself up as a teacher Pastor When you need to start as a little child Hopefully we can teach you some Humility, Not Voluntary humility

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But you Reek Of Self It's Off-putting...
If I did not "reek of self" you would most certainly consider me to be of godly character...

I "reek of self" because I preach entire sanctification (that God requires it of you to be like me as He has sanctified me).

So, the reason why I am not considered to be righteous is because I claim righteousness for myself as I preach that you also can be righteous by faith.

Do you see the irony of this?

It is the devil's way of keeping people from being convicted of sin, righteousness, and judgment.

For those who are righteous and considered righteous would not be the ones who preach righteousness...they would simply go off into obscurity...and the reality that a man can be made righteous by faith would then be lost to the people.

Even Jesus said to the Pharisees, "Which of you convicteth me of sin?" Was He being self-righteous?

Job was considered by God to have said everything right when his friends had to let Job make sacrifice for them; because they had sinned in what they had said to him.

Do you know that Job maintained that he was righteous throughout that entire conversation in the book of Job; while his friends tried to convince him that he was unrighteous?
 
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Or as you most famously put it except for last Thursday...You can't just throw verses around, You need to look at the meaning and context of words or you will end up in the land of lucky-repentance and not know how to get out....
Who are you talking to? That is not something that I said. I am not saying that I would not have said it. I am not saying that I would have said it, either.
 

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You no what Maybe I might Start A Seminar( cant call it a ministry) Here Called NotJustbyfaithandluckyrepentance
Since you blasphemed the Holy Spirit as He dwells within me (in that you said my tongues was "devils coming out of me") I wouldn't put it past you.
 
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Since you blasphemed the Holy Spirit as He dwells in me (in that you said my tongues was "devils coming out of me") I wouldn't put it past you.

It was we have been through this, You contradicted Scripture so it couldn't be the Holy Spirit, You had no interpreter and hoped an interpreter would come Then tried to pretend you where the interpreter And It was in response to you been found in error, You just lost it it was just weird, You admit you battle Devils And you can't tell who is who at times, Your under a delusion where you think to high of yourself Get over yourself
 

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It was we have been through this, You contradicted Scripture so it couldn't be the Holy Spirit, You had no interpreter and hoped an interpreter would come Then tried to pretend you where the interpreter And It was in response to you been found in error, You just lost it it was just weird, You admit you battle Devils And you can't tell who is who at times, Your under a delusion where you think to high of yourself Get over yourself
You are filled with hatred towards me it seems.

In a venue like this, it may take time for an interpreter to appear; you are not speaking it into an entire congregation so that the interpretation can come immediately.

But since you didn't realize that I suppose that you are excused.

But you are very quick to judge and when judgment comes back down on you you don't like it very much.

I can always tell if a devil is speaking to my mind and it hasn't happened for a while. Usually when it does happen it may take some time for me to be able to discern that it is a devil because they can't help but lie eventually.

If you made the effort to listen for the Holy Spirit you can be certain that the devil would try to interfere with his own voice (as you have an assignment from the enemy as in The Screwtape Letters).

But when I pray in tongues, I know that it is not a devil speaking out of me. That is a gift of the Holy Ghost.
 

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You are filled with hatred towards me it seems.

In a venue like this, it may take time for an interpreter to appear; you are not speaking it into an entire congregation so that the interpretation can come immediately.

But since you didn't realize that I suppose that you are excused.

But you are very quick to judge and when judgment comes back down on you you don't like it very much.

I can always tell if a devil is speaking to my mind and it hasn't happened for a while. Usually when it does happen it may take some time for me to be able to discern that it is a devil because they can't help but lie eventually.

If you made the effort to listen for the Holy Spirit you can be certain that the devil would try to interfere with his own voice (as you have an assignment from the enemy as in The Screwtape Letters).

But when I pray in tongues, I know that it is not a devil speaking out of me. That is a gift of the Holy Ghost.

I try and make a joke with you and you go all condemnation mode, After a week or so you pretended you were the interpreter did you forget that? Anyway you should have kept silent, Your blaming The Holy Spirit For Your error, Actually are you blaspheming associated Falsehoods to the Holy Spirit? consider that. How long is a while a week or two ago it happened when you almost believed someone on this forum, You should have believed him But a Devil (Your words) tricked you not to believe him When The Teaching Was Right. You cant Serve Two masters Its Either Christ Or the Devil, Choose who you follow and be fully convinced in your own mind Don't pretend both are in control
 

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There is no point discussing things with you if you don't believe that the Bible is the word of God, you are not anywhere near being a real Christian.
Would you like to ask Christ of whom is a christian,

Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luk 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
Luk 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
Luk 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
Luk 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

so much disappointment to come.
 

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How is that when we are taking about calling and election and you want a passage that speaks about hope to speak about calling and election? What happened?
Nothing happened. The assurance of your hope and the assurance of your calling and election to that hope are the same thing. Assurance of salvation comes from seeing Christ in you by the Holy Spirit, who motivates all kinds of works of righteousness in your life. That work shows that we belong to the truth....

1 John 3:18-19
...let us love not in word and speech, but in action and truth. 19And by this we will know that we belong to the truth
 
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How long is a while a week or two ago it happened when you almost believed someone on this forum, You should have believed him But a Devil (Your words) tricked you not to believe him When The Teaching Was Right.

What are you even talking about. Maybe you could send me a link to that post (if you right-click on the number at the top of the post, it will give you the option of "Copy link address". You can then paste the link anywhere on the boards) if it even exists.

You cant Serve Two masters Its Either Christ Or the Devil, Choose who you follow and be fully convinced in your own mind Don't pretend both are in control

You obviously never read The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis. The premise in that book is that every Christian has an assignment from the enemy sent by the devil to try and trip him or her up. That they sometimes succeed in doing so is evident if you read the book in its entirety...the enemy never gains the ultimate victory.

After a week or so you pretended you were the interpreter did you forget that?

Pretended? No, I don't think so.

I gave others with the gift of interpretation the option of utilizing their gift; but when no one stepped forward and it was obvious that I was being judged over the fact that there was not yet an interpreter, I prayed to the Lord that I might be able to interpret the tongue (as is written in 1 Corinthians 14:13) and the Lord answered my prayer and gave me the interpretation.

Of course, a little patience on the part of everyone might have enabled someone else with the spiritual gift of interpretation to step forward and interpret the tongue; which is how most people perceive that gift is supposed to be operated.

Nevertheless it is not out of the question for the person who gave the tongue to also give the interpretation (1 Corinthians 14:13).

It is as it is written in 1 Corinthians 14:15: first you pray or sing with the spirit and then with the understanding; and (I will add) usually the interpretation comes when you pray or sing with the understanding, of what you said when you prayed and/or sang with your "tongue".
 
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The “ action” of one Believer was to sleep with his own Mother.....let’s “ cut him some slack”, it could have been his Mother-In-Law.....
Behavior determines Rewards in this life and perhaps the next.....It does not Save.....It does not damn....Trusting in the Gospel or NOT Trusting in the Gospel determines that stuff....
Paul said the man sleeping with his father's wife had to do something for him to be saved when Jesus comes back.
 

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Would you like to ask Christ of whom is a christian,

Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luk 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
Luk 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
Luk 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
Luk 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

so much disappointment to come.
So, in your estimation, rejecting the concept that the Bible is the word of God is the narrow way by which we enter into life?

You seem to me to be way out in left field.
 

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If its your own works it means nothing
That's why we're talking about works motivated by the fruit OF THE SPIRIT here. Not man's feeble attempt to do works of righteousness in the power of the flesh.

Your works motivated by the Holy Spirit within you confirms that you are really saved. And the Bible says to purposely seek to do those works for that very reason—to have the firm assurance of your calling and election and hope of salvation. If you can't produce the works of the Spirit it shows you do not have the Spirit inside of you in salvation from which to produce those works.
 

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Notice what it does NOT say—- “ Repent FROM SINS”
The Repenting here means the same thing that follows the word ——- TURN TO GOD
It’s like saying,” Run fast, go like Oprah headed for a baked ham !”
Here, write these down.....

Hebrews 6:1
....repentance from dead works....

2 Timothy 2:19
“Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord must turn away from iniquity.”

1 Peter 3:11
11They must turn from evil and do good...
 
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