Thoughts about using a KJV update?

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Would you use a KJV update?

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  • No

    Votes: 19 52.8%
  • Probably

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  • Probably not

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Michiah-Imla

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Instead, I open myself up to all translations

At the core, there are only really just two translations out there:

1. Received Text translations
2. Alexandrian Text translations

But the only translation unaffected by the corrupted Alexandrian Text (and modern day so-called textual criticism) is the Authorized (King James) Version. All other Received Text translations (like the NKJV) have many passage renderings that agree with modern translation principles that produce clumsy readings in new versions since 1881.

So, what is it pretending to be?

A “King James” version.
 
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I had a bit of a laugh whilst I was reading this. Recently I was reading through a Christian book stores catalogue and there were 48 different translations of the bible for sale. One would think that with all that choice we would be well versed and educated about the content of the bible. But no, we are still thrashing around trying to get to grips with what the bible actually says.

Add that to all the books out there (must be millions) and we should be ready, willing and able to welcome the return of Jesus. But no, we are still thrashing around in our denominational dictates which usually bear no resemblance to what is taught in scripture. No wonder people do not believe what we say as we don't even know what we are saying or believe.

If I had my way, I would close down every Sunday morning meeting and change it into a discipling time where the word of God is expounded in all its glory and the people are given a practical task to do that week and report back the next Sunday the outcome of what they did.

P.S. I noticed that Biden has commenced his attack on the unborn, making it easier for them to be murdered.


The fact we have so many English translations and millions of books is the problem why we do not have a deeper understanding of Gods Word. We are too wrapped up in others opinions of the Word instead of letting the Word speak for itself.

and sunday services are supposed to be exactly what you want- they are supposed to be intense Bible study so the saints can be perfected for the work of the mnistry.
 

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Great question. I don't limit myself to translations. Instead, I open myself up to all translations. If I weren't willing to consider all translations, how could I consider listening to any human? In fact, I'm wildly interested in as many translations as I can get my hands on. I've got the New World Translation from the Mormons, the Jewish Tanakh for the Old Testament, and will one day obtain a Catholic translation. I'd say I currently use about 15 translations so that I can best understand the Word of God.

Enjoy them all!

....even though they all must legally say something different than each other at the minimum of 50,000 words per copyright law.

Yes, enjoy the hundreds of differing "word of God".
 

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I've got the New World Translation from the Mormons,
The New World Translation is actually not from the cult of Mormons. It is from the heretical Watch Tower Society (its followers are falsely called Jehovah's witnesses). The translation is erroneous and not Christian. It's a translation made to support their heresy, not a true translation. Please don't use it. Also, don't use the Book of Mormon.
 

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....even though they all must legally say something different than each other at the minimum of 50,000 words per copyright law.

Yes, enjoy the hundreds of differing "word of God".

If you don't want a person to read other translations, how can you determine that you yourself are qualified to speak about the Word of God?
 

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The New World Translation is actually not from the cult of Mormons. It is from the heretical Watch Tower Society (its followers are falsely called Jehovah's witnesses). The translation is erroneous and not Christian. It's a translation made to support their heresy, not a true translation. Please don't use it. Also, don't use the Book of Mormon.

Yep, I imagined it would be from the JW branch.

I use all translations, this is True, but I do not believe all that is within them. I'm a big boy. :)

As for the Translation that you use, I'm sure that I can find some errors. For example, does your translation of choice have two different stories of who paid for the field after Judas turned in Christ? Who purchased Potters Field? Was it the man, Judas, or the team of priests who conferred together?

So as you can see, if the original writers couldn't get things right (in your favorite translation), why would I be overly concerned about mistranslations over any other form of minutia? That's right . . . minutia. We need to understand the Core of the Bible, which is the Doctrine of Circumcised Hearts. And by the way, the New World Translation does not mince nor destroy the doctrine of Circumcised Hearts . . . it seems to uphold it in all the right places. Such as Colossians 2, Ezekiel chapters 11,18, 36, and even Deut 30:6.

I wouldn't get so uptight about translations as I would about our own misunderstandings. We should not be so utterly dogmatic. :)
 
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If you don't want a person to read other translations, how can you determine that you yourself are qualified to speak about the Word of God?
I forbid nobody to read the modern commentary translations.

To each their own...

I am qualified by the KJV, as I accept it as the pure word of God for the English language.

No other Bible reader has ever admitted that any modern version is the pure word of God, because God will not let them, obviously.
 

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Just was curious if anyone recommended the HPB. (Hawaii Pidgen Bible)

Seems not.

A couple examples...

John 1:1

"Da time eryting wen start, had one Guy. “God, He Talk,” dass who him. God an dat Guy, dey stick togedda, an da Guy stay God fo real kine."

Luke 1:1

"Aloha, my friend Teofilus, Plenny guys wen write down da tings dat wen happen wit us."

Confused? Now you know what feels like when I read the KJV.
 
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I am qualified by the KJV, as I accept it as the pure word of God for the English language.

Are you SURE it's the Pure Word of God? As I said in another post as quoted below, who purchased Potters Field with the thirty pieces of silver given to Judas Iscariot? The Bible says Judas purchased it and the same Bible also says that the priests who received the monies thrown at them by Judas are the ones who purchased the field with the silver.

Does the KJV clear this up, since it is without error? Hey, I suppose there's always the possibility that I have misunderstood those two sets of Scripture. I've been wrong before!
 

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So I’m reading the Bible for the fourth time I think. The first three times was with a king James. This time it is with an ESV. It’s kind of weird as I have got used to the old English but it’s much easier to understand, at least the Old Testament as I’m still in Judges. Next I am going to read the NKJV. I may just read them all!
 
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Hey, I suppose there's always the possibility that I have misunderstood those two sets of Scripture.
And there you have it. Both things are correct and there is no error. The money belonged to Judas, but the priests used that same money to buy the Potter's Field. So in effect Judas purchased it.
 

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And there you have it. Both things are correct and there is no error. The money belonged to Judas, but the priests used that same money to buy the Potter's Field. So in effect, Judas purchased it.

That's an interesting way of looking at Scriptures. So you're saying that if you threw away a bunch of precious metals, enough that could purchase a business, and if a person found and took those precious metals and bought a strip club . . . you'd be the owner.

Okie Doke.
 
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Just was curious if anyone recommended the HPB. (Hawaii Pidgen Bible)

Seems not.

A couple examples...

John 1:1

"Da time eryting wen start, had one Guy. “God, He Talk,” dass who him. God an dat Guy, dey stick togedda, an da Guy stay God fo real kine."

Luke 1:1

"Aloha, my friend Teofilus, Plenny guys wen write down da tings dat wen happen wit us."

Confused? Now you know what feels like when I read the KJV.
Really?
 

Truther

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Are you SURE it's the Pure Word of God? As I said in another post as quoted below, who purchased Potters Field with the thirty pieces of silver given to Judas Iscariot? The Bible says Judas purchased it and the same Bible also says that the priests who received the monies thrown at them by Judas are the ones who purchased the field with the silver.

Does the KJV clear this up, since it is without error? Hey, I suppose there's always the possibility that I have misunderstood those two sets of Scripture. I've been wrong before!
Ahah!

An all translation critic.

You are of the ones I speak of that think God's pure word had not endured forever.

Busted!


Also, post the verses and let's look at them.
 

2nd Timothy Group

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Rather, having a good time chatting.

I'm not here for a good time. I am here to share what I know, receive what others know, and be ready to change when I am convicted by the words of my co-members, here. When you'd like to take a more mature approach, I'd be willing to discuss things with you. Let me know when you're ready.
 

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Hello,

Reading and comparing many translations does not help me to find the truth, it only confirms the deliberately embedded errors of the translators. I prefer to go back and consider the actual source texts from which the translations were "taken" from and consider how I would paraphrase the source text's message to see if that then aligns up with the respective translations. What I have discovered is that many prefer the translations of a "committee" rather than the consideration of a person working alone, whose paraphrased translation highlights the probable errors of respective translations of the respective "committees" working in collusion with each other in coming to a majority "political" understanding to win influence over that same committee of translators.

Let me give you an example, the main character in the parables of the Minas and the Talents of the Greek text, particularly the parable of the Minas, speaks of a nobleman, of some rank, who has a face like a man, who goes away for a time into an empty space like a cavern to receive a kingdom.

Notice the difference between the Son of Man in Daniel 7:13-14, and this nobleman in the parable of the Minas where the nobleman goes away to receive a kingdom, and the Son of man who comes before God and is given dominion over all of the peoples of the earth by God such that they should worship him, whereas in the Parable of the Minas the nobleman demands that all of the people will worship him on the fear of death if they will not.

The difference is marked, and how we perceive the man character in the Parables of the Minas and the Talents determines our understanding of these two parables.

In the Parable of the Minas, the his citizens decided that they no longer wanted this "Nobleman" to reign over them because they had come to hate him for who he was, i.e. Satan.

So many people put Jesus as the main character in this parable, however I have hear of a few story tellers of these Parables who have suggested that if Jesus was a character in these parables, that he would be the "wicked" servant who calls out Satan as having no "rights" to the harvest of souls during the Later Days, which Satan agrees is true.

What has become the outcome of these two parables is that they have been used as justification by "christians" to oppress the people around them such that they have no time to contemplate their navel or their salvation as the "Good" servant "christians" rob the masses around them to help bring in a "kingdom" which they believe they are required to do.

Jesus in John 6, tells the crowds around him, when the people asked Him what they must do to bring in the kingdom of God, was simply to "believe in Him Whom He has sent," but for to many people that seems to simple and they believe that much more is required of them.

The embedded errors in both the Old and New Testaments are enough to send many to the Lake of Fire because the errors lead them to the wrong conclusions about God, even though at this present time for English speaking people the translations are the only means we have of discovering who God and Jesus is.

What is important is coming to an understanding of what God requires of us, and that is simply to believe in Him whom He has sent and to put that belief into action through the things that we do that reflects the heart of God for all the people of the world. That is the message of the Parable of the Judgement between the Sheep and the Goats.

Shalom
 

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I'm not here for a good time. I am here to share what I know, receive what others know, and be ready to change when I am convicted by the words of my co-members, here. When you'd like to take a more mature approach, I'd be willing to discuss things with you. Let me know when you're ready.
You haven't shared much but your opinion.

Nor have I.

This is a place to have our opinions debated to test them.

To me, it is a good time, to some it is a nightmare.