Qualities of Biblical Prophets

DuckieLady · Feb 8, 2021

What do you think were the qualities of the Biblical prophets that you think made them great leaders?

For example, David was a man after God's own heart. Was it anything in them that contributed to their successful leadership or was it simply that they had the Holy Spirit to lead them?

I'd say from 1 Samuel 16 it seems to me that God chooses people based off of their heart.

But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”

Mayflower · Feb 9, 2021

I first say that God gives everyone in the Body of Christ different gifts and abilities to function together as a whole. There is not one gift more important then the other. Though we should strive for the greater gifts.

"Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. For the body is not one member, but many."
1 Corinthians 12:4‭-‬14 KJV

Mayflower · Feb 9, 2021

I think humility was one of the biggest attributes and still would be. Moses was the most humble man on earth. David, Jeremiah, Paul...They had to have a lot of humility to go through what they had to go through. Even Jonah eventually humbled himself and did as the Lord told him to. To have greater responsibilities for God's kingdom, one must first be faithful with what he has already, and then have humility to not act in the flesh. It only took Moses one angry moment to have to die before the Promise Land. So humility is a must. God has plans to prosper us and not to harm us, so He will not give us something we are unable to handle.

Im new to the office of prophets still really. Baptist church and the like are like Kansas. Lol. I do believe the office is still for today though.

amadeus · Feb 9, 2021

FluffyYellowDuck said:
What do you think were the qualities of the Biblical prophets that you think made them great leaders?

For example, David was a man after God's own heart. Was it anything in them that contributed to their successful leadership or was it simply that they had the Holy Spirit to lead them?

I'd say from 1 Samuel 16 it seems to me that God chooses people based off of their heart.

But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”

But consider two examples which should make us stop and look more closely. Saul the first king of Israel received the same anointing by the same prophet [Samuel] as did David... What was the difference?

The second example is Judas Iscariot chosen by Jesus along with the eleven others as his closest disciples [apostles]. What was the difference?

DuckieLady · Feb 9, 2021

amadeus said:
But consider two examples which should make us stop and look more closely. Saul the first king of Israel received the same anointing by the same prophet [Samuel] as did David... What was the difference?

The second example is Judas Iscariot chosen by Jesus along with the eleven others as his closest disciples [apostles]. What was the difference?

OOOo... Good point. Saul was a jerk and Judas was of the devil.

Mayflower · Feb 9, 2021

amadeus said:
But consider two examples which should make us stop and look more closely. Saul the first king of Israel received the same anointing by the same prophet [Samuel] as did David... What was the difference?

The second example is Judas Iscariot chosen by Jesus along with the eleven others as his closest disciples [apostles]. What was the difference?

Id like to phone a friend. LOL. @Heart2Soul @Hidden In Him

Were these two considered prophets also? I know they were chosen. King Saul walked away from God and lost His position. Judas Iscariot, I am not even sure if he was saved to begin with, much less a prophet.

Mayflower · Feb 9, 2021

From merriam webster dictionary:

1: one who utters divinely inspired revelations: such as
aoften capitalized : the writer of one of the prophetic books of the Bible
capitalized : one regarded by a group of followers as the final authoritative revealer of God's will Muhammad, the Prophet of Allah
2: one gifted with more than ordinary spiritual and moral insight especially : an inspired poet
3: one who foretells future events : PREDICTOR
4: an effective or leading spokesman for a cause, doctrine, or group

amadeus · Feb 9, 2021

Mayflower said:
Id like to phone a friend. LOL. @Heart2Soul @Hidden In Him

Were these two considered prophets also?I know they were chosen. King Saul walked away from God and lost His position. Judas Iscariot, I am not even sure if he was saved to begin with, much less a prophet.

What is a prophet? What is prophecy? It is a message from God, which may or may not be a prediction of future events. The prophet would be the one God gave the message to deliver. He is the delivery boy.

Saul at the very start did OK, being meek and shy when he was first chosen to be king. Not that far along he became more concerned with pleasing people than God. When caught in disobedience he tried to justify himself and/or to blame the transgression on someone else... such as the people.

"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." I Sam 15:3

"But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly.
Then came the word of the LORD unto Samuel, saying,
It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the LORD all night.
And when Samuel rose early to meet Saul in the morning, it was told Samuel, saying, Saul came to Carmel, and, behold, he set him up a place, and is gone about, and passed on, and gone down to Gilgal.
And Samuel came to Saul: and Saul said unto him, Blessed be thou of the LORD: I have performed the commandment of the LORD.
And Samuel said, What meaneth then this bleating of the sheep in mine ears, and the lowing of the oxen which I hear?
And Saul said, They have brought them from the Amalekites: for the people spared the best of the sheep and of the oxen, to sacrifice unto the LORD thy God; and the rest we have utterly destroyed" I Sam 15:9-15

David was always a man of God even when he was a little boy. He made his mistakes too, perhaps on surface appearing as bad or worse than those of Saul. The difference was in his reaction when confronted with his error. He did not try to justify his error before God or God's prophet nor did he try to blame others for his mistakes.

"And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die." II Sam 12:13

"And David spake unto the LORD when he saw the angel that smote the people, and said, Lo, I have sinned, and I have done wickedly: but these sheep, what have they done? let thine hand, I pray thee, be against me, and against my father's house." II Sam 24:17

Mayflower · Feb 9, 2021

amadeus said:
What is a prophet? What is prophecy? It is a message from God, which may or may not be a prediction of future events. The prophet would be the one God gave the message to deliver. He is the delivery boy.

Saul at the very start did OK, being meek and shy when he was first chosen to be king. Not that far along he became more concerned with pleasing people than God. When caught in disobedience he tried to justify himself and/or to blame the transgression on someone else... such as the people.

"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." I Sam 15:3

"But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly.
Then came the word of the LORD unto Samuel, saying,
It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the LORD all night.
And when Samuel rose early to meet Saul in the morning, it was told Samuel, saying, Saul came to Carmel, and, behold, he set him up a place, and is gone about, and passed on, and gone down to Gilgal.
And Samuel came to Saul: and Saul said unto him, Blessed be thou of the LORD: I have performed the commandment of the LORD.
And Samuel said, What meaneth then this bleating of the sheep in mine ears, and the lowing of the oxen which I hear?
And Saul said, They have brought them from the Amalekites: for the people spared the best of the sheep and of the oxen, to sacrifice unto the LORD thy God; and the rest we have utterly destroyed" I Sam 15:9-15

David was always a man of God even when he was a little boy. He made his mistakes too, perhaps on surface appearing as bad or worse than those of Saul. The difference was in his reaction when confronted with his error. He did not try to justify his error before God or God's prophet nor did he try to blame others for his mistakes.

"And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die." II Sam 12:13

"And David spake unto the LORD when he saw the angel that smote the people, and said, Lo, I have sinned, and I have done wickedly: but these sheep, what have they done? let thine hand, I pray thee, be against me, and against my father's house." II Sam 24:17

So what is the difference between prophetic leanings and the office of a prophet? Were the kings considered to be in the prophetic office?

I think about Jonah when I think of prophet, because he had to tell the Ninevites to repent or be destroyed. Then Samuel was not King, but he was in the office of prophet to anoint Saul and David.

Mayflower · Feb 9, 2021

Well priest, but definitely a prophet, right?

101G · Feb 9, 2021

Addressing the OP, not saying that you're right or wrong, because all have sinned and fallen short. and with the heart thing, not saying you're are right or wrong there either, because the prophet balaam heart was not in the right place. but, but, God did use him, as some other's who may have went wrong.

but, in choosen a prophet, one must have a heart of Gold, because some of the things God allowed some prophet to go through or do, I thank God that I was not called in those days.

the prophet Ezekiel, who had to cooked his food on cow dung, but at first it was suppose to be human dung, or laying on his side for many days, 40 for each year... see, or read all of Ezekiel chapter 4. man oh man.

or the prophet Isaiah walked for three years naked. Isaiah 20:1 "In the year that Tartan came unto Ashdod, (when Sargon the king of Assyria sent him,) and fought against Ashdod, and took it;" Isaiah 20:2 "At the same time spake the LORD by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot." Isaiah 20:3 "And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia;" Isaiah 20:4 "So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt."

now where can these Qualities in a man or woman can be found today...... not me, thank, God for the NEW TESTAMENT, the little taste I got was enough for me.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

amadeus · Feb 9, 2021

Mayflower said:
Id like to phone a friend. LOL. @Heart2Soul @Hidden In Him

Were these two considered prophets also? I know they were chosen. King Saul walked away from God and lost His position. Judas Iscariot, I am not even sure if he was saved to begin with, much less a prophet.

I am careful how I use that word, saved, because very often what I believe about it differs from what others believe. Are they all wrong and me right? Certainly not. Communication is often the problem. God is able to understand and communicate with everyone. Not everyone had ears to hear nor does everyone that does hear pay attention and obey.

Man's ability to communicate is often very limited even when two people speak the same primary language [such as English].

Judas Iscariot was called by Jesus as were the other eleven. Judas answered the call, but then consider a couple of verses:

"For many are called, but few are chosen." Matt 22:14

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matt 7:13-14

"And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own?" Luke 16:12

Did Judas ever move to ownership? Have we?

What does it take to be an heir?

What does it take to actually receive one's inheritance... that is to become an owner?

What is the primary thing we are to inherit? What did Jesus bring? How about Life, that which was lost when Adam and Eve ate of the wrong tree?

"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly." John 10:10

"And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" John 11:26

What does it really mean to believe in Jesus? What is that believers do? Do they not overcome and is not the reward for overcomers Life?

"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God." Rev 2:7

Jesus in his time as a man was tempted as we are and overcame the world and then He was no longer in the world.

"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." John 16:33

"And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world..." John 17:11

Did Judas overcome the world? Have we overcome the world? What world did Jesus overcome and what world are we to overcome?

When you think of the world, don't think of planet Earth! Think rather of the little dab of earth, dirt, that each of us is, a little dab of earth attracted by what which causes what kind of problems for us?

"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." I John 2:15-16

amadeus · Feb 9, 2021

Mayflower said:
So what is the difference between prophetic leanings and the office of a prophet? Were the kings considered to be in the prophetic office?

I think about Jonah when I think of prophet, because he had to tell the Ninevites to repent or be destroyed. Then Samuel was not King, but he was in the office of prophet to anoint Saul and David.

Mayflower said:
Well priest, but definitely a prophet, right?

Jonah is a good example of what we may sometimes see around us today. He ran away from doing what God had clearly told him to do. God dealt with him and he finally did his job, but even then he was an unhappy man. What was his final result with God?

Some called by God, never respond properly and do rather that which pleases themselves instead of that which God told them to do.

What was Samuel? A priest or a prophet or what? His mother prayed a prayer and received her son, Samuel, not of the sons of Aaron [the priests] nor even of a Levite, but rather of the tribe of Ephraim, one of the two tribes which came from Joseph. Yet Samuel after weaning was brought up with the priests [under Eli a priest, who would not control his own sons] and was "girded with a linen ephod" like the priests, the sons of Aaron. This does bring more questions to mind, doesn't it?

Enoch111 · Feb 9, 2021

FluffyYellowDuck said:
What do you think were the qualities of the Biblical prophets that you think made them great leaders?

Biblical prophets were not necessarily leaders. In fact, many of them were sent to challenge and convict the leaders in Israel. Their primary ministry was to declare EXACTLY what they were told to say. Indeed when they spoke as prophets, they were speaking by divine revelation, whether forth telling or foretelling. The prophets were generally hated, despised, persecuted, and killed. So the qualities required in prophets were faithfulness in spite of persecution.

Mantis · Feb 9, 2021

I am not sure what qualities they have but it seems God picks people who are pretty screwed up. I think God likes to take people the Devil thinks are his and does a work in them and then shows them off to the Devil!

The Kreisel · Feb 9, 2021

False Prophets keep you cozy in the Wide Gate to Death -
Read Matthew 7:13-15 in context.

So do False Apostles, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers.
And lukewarm christians like it so.

Heart2Soul · Feb 9, 2021

Mayflower said:
So what is the difference between prophetic leanings and the office of a prophet? Were the kings considered to be in the prophetic office?

I think about Jonah when I think of prophet, because he had to tell the Ninevites to repent or be destroyed. Then Samuel was not King, but he was in the office of prophet to anoint Saul and David.

Hope this helps:
Basic Differences Between the Gift and the Office:
Gift of Prophecy:

It’s a gift of the Holy Spirit
Every believer is encouraged to prophesy
It’s for edification, exhortation, and comfort (EEC)
Prophetic utterance is a gift
He/she is defined as a saint doing the work of the ministry
The gift is for life

Office of a Prophet/Prophetess:

It’s a gift from the Godhead
God chooses the office; it’s not our choice
It’s to train, equip, direct, correct, warn and govern
He/she is a gift to the Body of Christ
He/she is part of the five-fold ministry to equip the saints
The calling is for life

Missing the Mark
Firstly, let me say this: just because a prophet may “miss the mark” or get something wrong, it does not mean he/she is a false prophet. In Scripture, it says to test the spirits or weigh the spoken word (1 John 4:1-2).

You do not judge the prophet personally, only the word he/she has delivered. The utterance should be tested by the Spirit.

Heart2Soul · Feb 9, 2021

The Kreisel said:
False Prophets keep you cozy in the Wide Gate to Death -
Read Matthew 7:13-15 in context.

So do False Apostles, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers.
And lukewarm christians like it so.

Characteristics of a False Prophet:

Are they pointing the people back to themselves and not to Jesus? In other words, it’s all about them!
They are not under the spiritual authority of a senior pastor/leader. In other words, there is no accountability, as they think they know all things.
They bring dissention quickly within the leadership team and then in other areas of the church body. Is there always controversy or strife associated with them?
They are judgmental, critical, and use manipulation to get what they want. They are not seeing or speaking through the heart and eyes of Father God, but speaking through the wrong spirit of condemnation.
They may have been correct and true in the beginning, but due to offenses they have received, they now operate out of anger, frustration, and hurt.

Heart2Soul · Feb 9, 2021

Mayflower said:
Id like to phone a friend. LOL. @Heart2Soul @Hidden In Him

Were these two considered prophets also? I know they were chosen. King Saul walked away from God and lost His position. Judas Iscariot, I am not even sure if he was saved to begin with, much less a prophet.

Neither of them were prophets called by God. They may have been anointed to prophesy but they didn't hold the office of a prophet.

The Kreisel · Feb 9, 2021

Heart2Soul said:
Characteristics of a False Prophet:

Are they pointing the people back to themselves and not to Jesus? In other words, it’s all about them!

They are not under the spiritual authority of a senior pastor/leader. In other words, there is no accountability, as they think they know all things.

They bring dissention quickly within the leadership team and then in other areas of the church body. Is there always controversy or strife associated with them?

They are judgmental, critical, and use manipulation to get what they want. They are not seeing or speaking through the heart and eyes of Father God, but speaking through the wrong spirit of condemnation.

They may have been correct and true in the beginning, but due to offenses they have received, they now operate out of anger, frustration, and hurt.

I'll stick with who the Creator of the Universe said the false prophets are, which is clearly spelled out in Matthew 7:13-15.
They will lead you to physical death - which I call the Death-Cults of Christianity.

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