Qualities of Biblical Prophets

Heart2Soul · Feb 9, 2021

@The Kreisel I'll stick with who Jesus said the false prophets are, which is clearly spelled out in Matthew 7:13-15.
They will lead you to physical death - which I call the Death-Cults of Christianity.
That's fine as long as you are able to spiritually discern a prophetic word as false or not.

DuckieLady · Feb 9, 2021

The Kreisel said:
False Prophets keep you cozy in the Wide Gate to Death -
Read Matthew 7:13-15 in context.

So do False Apostles, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers.
And lukewarm christians like it so.

Believe me, I'm the most skeptical and agitated person in the world when it comes to prophets, despite having had true prophecies personally. I don't care the majority of them I don't trust.

John Eckhardt had A LOT to do with that.

Mayflower · Feb 9, 2021

Heart2Soul said:
Hope this helps:
Basic Differences Between the Gift and the Office:
Gift of Prophecy:

It’s a gift of the Holy Spirit

Every believer is encouraged to prophesy

It’s for edification, exhortation, and comfort (EEC)

Prophetic utterance is a gift

He/she is defined as a saint doing the work of the ministry

The gift is for life

Office of a Prophet/Prophetess:

It’s a gift from the Godhead

God chooses the office; it’s not our choice

It’s to train, equip, direct, correct, warn and govern

He/she is a gift to the Body of Christ

He/she is part of the five-fold ministry to equip the saints

The calling is for life

Missing the Mark
Firstly, let me say this: just because a prophet may “miss the mark” or get something wrong, it does not mean he/she is a false prophet. In Scripture, it says to test the spirits or weigh the spoken word (1 John 4:1-2).

You do not judge the prophet personally, only the word he/she has delivered. The utterance should be tested by the Spirit.

That does. Thanks!

The Kreisel · Feb 9, 2021

Heart2Soul said:
@The Kreisel I'll stick with who Jesus said the false prophets are, which is clearly spelled out in Matthew 7:13-15.
They will lead you to physical death - which I call the Death-Cults of Christianity.
That's fine as long as you are able to spiritually discern a prophetic word as false or not.

The entire Word of God is prophetic, if you don't discern the whole point of Jesus Christ, to reverse the curse of death Adam brought into the Earth, you don't discern LIFE.

Mayflower · Feb 9, 2021

I would say wisdom was also a good attribute of Biblical prophets. Their wisdom was from above and not from below.

And Elijah was very brave. Moses had to gain bravery, but he was also.

List Of Prophets In The Bible | Believers Portal

The Kreisel · Feb 9, 2021

FluffyYellowDuck said:
Believe me, I'm the most skeptical and agitated person in the world when it comes to prophets, despite having had true prophecies personally. I don't care the majority of them I don't trust.

John Eckhardt had A LOT to do with that.

If you're not "putting on the new man" unto LIFE, and content to die like all other mortals in the "old man", it does not matter who you trust.

Mayflower · Feb 9, 2021

I think the Bible is first and foremost what we should listen too. Then use prayer and discernment with the rest.

Heart2Soul · Feb 9, 2021

The Kreisel said:
The entire Word of God is prophetic, if you don't discern the whole point of Jesus Christ, to reverse the curse of death Adam brought into the Earth, you don't discern LIFE.

Now do you want to discuss the Word of God or Prophets....True and False ones?

Heart2Soul · Feb 9, 2021

Mayflower said:
I think the Bible is first and foremost what we should listen too. Then use prayer and discernment with the rest.

As Paul said we should all prophesy...

Mayflower · Feb 9, 2021

The Kreisel said:
If you're not "putting on the new man" unto LIFE, and content to die like all other mortals in the "old man", it does not matter who you trust.

You are a pretty awesome evangelist. Welcome to CB.

The Kreisel · Feb 9, 2021

Heart2Soul said:
Now do you want to discuss the Word of God or Prophets....True and False ones?

No need to 'discuss' - I already know by the Alpha and Omega, as I commented earlier -
I'll stick with who Jesus said the false prophets are, which is clearly spelled out in Matthew 7:13-15.
They will lead you to physical death - which I call the Death-Cults of Christianity.

Mayflower · Feb 9, 2021

FluffyYellowDuck said:
What do you think were the qualities of the Biblical prophets that you think made them great leaders?

For example, David was a man after God's own heart. Was it anything in them that contributed to their successful leadership or was it simply that they had the Holy Spirit to lead them?

I'd say from 1 Samuel 16 it seems to me that God chooses people based off of their heart.

But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”

I also think the prophets were willing to lay their lives down for God at any cost.

The Kreisel · Feb 9, 2021

Mayflower said:
You are a pretty awesome evangelist. Welcome to CB.

Thanks cat.
I prefer, Priest in the Order of Melchizedek though.

Mayflower · Feb 9, 2021

The Kreisel said:
Thanks cat.
I prefer, Priest in the Order of Melchizedek though.

Please don't call me cat. Mayflower is fine. And Ill just call you Kriesel, because it is shorter.

God loves you, Kriesel.

friend of · Feb 9, 2021

The Kreisel said:
Thanks cat.
I prefer, Priest in the Order of Melchizedek though.

Oh boy...

The Kreisel · Feb 9, 2021

Mayflower said:
Please don't call me cat. Mayflower is fine. And Ill just call you Kriesel, because it is shorter. God loves you, Kriesel.

noted - at least I didn't call you dog, they are on outside of New Jerusalem -
Jesus is a Cat - The lion of the tribe of Judah.

The Kreisel · Feb 9, 2021

friend of said:
Oh boy...

Yah, arn't you in the Royal Priesthood mentioned in I Peter 1:9?
Or are you still Levitical?

Mayflower · Feb 9, 2021

The Kreisel said:
noted - at least I didn't call you dog, they are on outside of New Jerusalem -
Jesus is a Cat - The lion of the tribe of Judah.

Well amen to that!

Mayflower · Feb 9, 2021

Enoch111 said:
Biblical prophets were not necessarily leaders. In fact, many of them were sent to challenge and convict the leaders in Israel. Their primary ministry was to declare EXACTLY what they were told to say. Indeed when they spoke as prophets, they were speaking by divine revelation, whether forth telling or foretelling. The prophets were generally hated, despised, persecuted, and killed. So the qualities required in prophets were faithfulness in spite of persecution.

I think prophets have to be natural leaders because of the office. A prophet naturally has to be a peacemaker, rather then a peace keeper, because they have to go tell it like it is. If they were not leaders, they would not be able to do that. I know what you mean as far as not in a position, but as far as an attribute, excellent quality.

DuckieLady · Feb 9, 2021

Mayflower said:
I think prophets have to be natural leaders because of the office. A prophet naturally has to be a peacemaker, rather then a peace keeper, because they have to go tell it like it is. If they were not leaders, they would not be able to do that. I know what you mean as far as not in a position, but as far as an attribute, excellent quality.

Yes. I would say they were all leaders. A man in his own home has the responsibility of acting as a leader, a pastor is a leader, a worship leader is a ... well, a leader. Authorities in our society are leaders. Parents are leaders.

When you are leading people with the instruction of God's word, you are being a leader, whether or not anyone likes it. You are leading them to the truth. Whether or not you're spending a lot of time laying on your side for over a year eating bread made from beans and pulses (Ezekiel 4), or hiding your underwear under a rock (Jeremiah 13) , or preaching naked (Isaiah 20), or the most important leader of all, getting kicked out of town because you sent demons into all of their pigs. (Mark 5)

But we also have Proverbs 16:32 "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." David seemed pretty chilled out but it was the spirit of God that was with him that made him successful in going out and bringing back a box of a couple hundred you-know-whats, which is pretty gruesome in my opinion. I believe that it was the Lord that gave him his strength. (Have you ever just had the courage rise up in you to where you knew to do something at the right time and you didn't really know where it came from?)

There's a lot of gruesome in there. There's a reason they don't finish the story of David and Goliath in Sunday school.

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