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Here is one:

Matthew 6:5-7
6 But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly. 7 And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.

And this also speaks against the rosary, which has pagan origins.

Please read the New Testament and base your beliefs and sacraments ONLY on the Bible, and not holy traditions that are not founded on the word of God. Mary is not God. She can't hear you. She can't be everywhere at once like God can. Can you imagine the millions of people all praying to Mary, and she supposedly can hear each one? That is blasphemy if you think that is possible. Only God can do that. So why pray to anything less than God? Jesus has commanded you to stop. Read the letter in Rev. 2 to Thyatira. The pagan goddess and godchild Babylonian Mystery Religion is what is referred to as Jezebel, because the real Jezebel was a high priestess of that evil religion. When paganism became outlawed and Christianity became the "state religion", that is when to help the pagans transition to Christianity they made their goddess, Mary, and her godchild, Jesus. It is not based on scripture, but the devil, and the "depths of Satan."


You can still be a Catholic; just give up what Jesus says to give up, and that is anything to do with praying to Mary and using the rosary. Is that so much to ask?

no it does not, so the only possible pray for a Christian is the Lord’s Prayer? It does not say that, it’s the first but not the only, repetition in prayer does not contradict the rosary, Jesus was opposing repetitive prayer that repetitions within a single prayer and not repeating a whole prayer more than once for He Himself prayed three times in the garden, let this cup pass from me!
 

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They don't need to tell anyone. And besides, it is Jesus we obey, and He said, otherwise they were okay - just give up what He called Jezebel - what Catholics have done to Mary. Just discard what was added a few hundred years after the Day of Pentecost. Bowing to her, kneeling in front of their idol of her, praying to her, using the rosary. "Coming out of Babylon" is coming out of that goddess and godchild mystery religion of Babylon.

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There is a great deal more revealed regarding the mystery religion of Babylon than in that one letter/portion of Revelation.
The Antichrist inherited a great deal more than the characteristics and teachings of Babylon. Notice in Revelation 13 there are three other empires that comprise the beast... And the beast itself resembles more that of Greece, the leopard, than it does the lion of Babylon. Remember, the Protestant hermeneutic of interpreting scripture is not private or man's reasoning, but we use scripture to interpret scripture right? So this composite beast must be comprised of a variety of characteristics that can be directly attributed and belong also to the individual empires that preceded it... Not just Babylon, but also Medo-Persia, Greece, and pagan Rome. It is interesting when we consider what characteristics the Bible tell us regarding those empires. Not only so, those characteristics have been applied to specific parts of the anatomy of the beast.
For example, it has the mouth of the lion. Natives of africa would tell you that the most terrifying sound in the bush is that of a roaring lion. The inference to the devil is obvious. But why Babylon? Because she spoke with pride,... Blasphemy... Which was directly responsible for the fall of Nebuchadnezzar. It was a city of pride and vanity and wealth and her declarations of greatness was based on that premise. I don't need to describe the Vatican and her mouth "speaking great things and blasphemies" Revelation 13:5.

Medo- Persia were recognised as law makers. See Daniel 6:8. Richard John Neuhaus , a well known Catholic priest and convert from the Lutheran church, accurately summed up the Catholic mindset when he said..."why does the Catholic Church not recant what was said by Trent?... Because it is Catholic teaching that a council teaches authorititively, and the church is not authorized to repudiated retrospectively a conciliar decree. " It is a fact that the principles and dogmas and canons of the Catholic Church that existed in past ages still exist today. Some in today's societal mix may not be made so prominent, like their teachings on the punishment of heretics, but they are still held. The laws, canons and the numerous decrees and bulls that raged against those who dare espouse liberty of conscience, are still very much alive and well in the deeper recesses of the Catholic mind and heart. @theefaith Is a prime example of that continuing mindset. Note that this characteristic applied to the feet of the bear. The bear is an animal that hibernates. For the past several decades the Catholic Church had moderated some of her more objectionable practices, the more obvious being her softening on the reading of scripture. Previously a forbidden book, the Bible is not now banned or burnt as in previous ages, however, Rome still claims that her priests are the sole arbiters as to what scripture means. Personal relationships with and through the holy Spirit is discouraged outright. Once awake however, that same bear that when asleep was cuddly and welcoming, (ecumenusm... Encouraged by Rome but not directly a part of it... She can't because all must come home to mother... Unity is not the goal... Rule is. )becomes a ravenous beast devouring much flesh Daniel 7:5.

And the beast which I saw was like into a leopard... Greece. What was Greece most renowned for according to scripture? Paul put it this way...
KJV Acts 17:22
22 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. How accurate is this as a description of Catholicism? Earlier, Luke who was relating these events in Acts, said...
KJV Acts 17:19-21
19 And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is?
20 For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean.
21 (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)

Not only did Catholicism over the years listen and hear the new (relative to primitive Apostolic Christianity) teachings, but assimilated those teachings into her own philosophy and practice. Hence the reason why she is now called Babylon... Confusion. Not only had she inherited the traits and practises of paganism prior to Christianity, but has also embraced many subsequent to Christ. She is well known to be somewhat liberal when dealing with cultures of foreign lands...a case in point is the acceptance of witchcraft and voodoo in lands south of the Rio Grande. And why she was so accepting of tithes from the mafia.
One stark trait inherited from paganism is the union between church and state. All previous empires were such unions... The priests having much control over the politics of the nations. Did you ever wonder why the Catholic Church was so antagonistic toward the constitution in the earlier years of the US? NO UNION.

No, Catholics cannot stay Catholic if they desire to be faithful to Christ. They must come out completely... There is nothing in Rome that edifies or is based on truth. The whole system is counterfeit and deception. Just like the camouflaged leopard which is today awakening and coming out of hiding... The last three Popes have more and more become politically involved in this world and the Catholic Church is fast regaining her lost ascendancy. But that leopard... She cannot change her spots. Can she do good that was accustomed to do evil?
 
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The Rosary is also a Bible study, if you can possibly drop your rationalistic perspective to see it.
The Rosary | Catholic Answers
Rosary Explanation for Protestants | Douglas Beaumont
Thank you for the information. I read the first web site and it seems there are different versions. The one I noted does not include the Apolstolic Creed where the one in the website you provided does. Ok fine. Dually noted... However, my comments stand based on the version I found. And by the way, my apologies for the typo.

If I do indeed have a rationalistic perspective, I am not ashamed of it. However, I don't believe its a full one. There is nothing wrong with relying on reason and evidence rather than emotion and religious beliefs. However, the latter two are not to be looked down upon either. After all, we are Christians... We do rely on an things not seen.

I'd like to point out that I am not accusing anyone of worshipping Mary. I stated that from the beginning. My point is that when Catholics or Protestants (because according to the website provided many Protestants do...) pray the Rosary, it isn't unreasonable to become skeptical.
 

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Where does it say only pray to God?
The communion of saints all pray for each other
Col 4:2
James 5:26
Rev 5:8
And they’ve not dead!

John 11:25
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Okay, I know Catholics struggle with scripture because they aren't allowed to make up their own minds as to what its actually saying, having to defer to the church even though the church's teaching may contradict scripture. What wild imagination you reveal is exemplified in the texts you have quoted above. Your claim that those texts support praying for each other is fully justified, and so we should, but how does that justify praying to one another?
And your scripture you quoted of Jesus declaring His power to resurrect the dead, is in and of itself undeniable. But how does that help your cause when other scriptures plainly, loudly, and consistently declare, from Jesus Himself and His apostles, that the resurrection takes place at the second coming, and therefore until that time, except for a select few, all who have died are still in their graves? How can anyone hear your prayers if their ears have decayed into dust? How will they relay your prayers to the Father while worms are eating their tongues? These are serious questions. I'm not being facetious...people need to explain these things if they believe as you seem to, that we can and should pray to the dead. I fear however that you will now revert to justifying and defending your belief through your church's teachings and those of the error ridden church fathers who deny scripture and by tradition, overturn the plain teaching of the word of God. By doing that, you begin to expound on anther religion that is opposed to Biblical Christianity.
 

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First, you spelled "rosary" wrong, so your link is useless. Here is the link to your selective paste job, that you followed with a a private editorial. How To Pray The Rosary – Rosary Center
Again, my apologies. Thank you for providing the proper link.

The first 2 paragraphs does not support the standard anti-Mary myth making.
I am not anti Mary, nor am I making any myths.

That's because "hail Jesus" or "hail The Father" is not in the Bible; it doesn't make sense.
Well, that's not entirely true. Judas said hail to Jesus before kissing him. The crowd cried Hail King of the Jews before crucifying him. Obviously I don't condone these hails! But here's something I didn't know: "Hail Mary" isn't in the Bible either. The angel just said "Hail, thou art favored.. " But... Yes he was talking to Mary so it really isn't a big point.

The word translated as “hail”—and which is also sometimes translated as “rejoice”—is the same word that Israel’s prophets used to begin prophecies about the promised Messiah and the joy He would bring to God’s people (Joel 2:23–24; Zech 9:9)
Well that is interesting because in Joel 2:23 it says:
Joel 2:23 KJV
Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God:

Yet, you say the Bible says there isn't any "Hail (rejoice) Jesus". That seems pretty close. Zech 9:9 says for the daughters of zion and jerusalem to rejoice because the king is coming.

But does "hail" really mean rejoice? I found this on The Rosary
(Maybe you recognize the website):

"The prayer begins, “Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.” This is nothing other than the greeting the angel Gabriel gave Mary in Luke 1:28 (Confraternity Version)"

So "hail" is a greeting... Like, "Hello Mary". Or if you pray the Rosary, "Hello Mary, Hello Mary, Hello Mary Hello Mary, Hello Mary, Hello Mary, Hello Mary, Hello Mary, Hello Mary, Hello Mary" Then do it 19 more times.
So is it "rejoice" or a greeting? In Luke 1:28 it could work both ways.

The angel’s announcement in Luke seems to be drawn almost word for word from a prophecy of Zephaniah’s (3:14–18).
Really? Ok. Lets have a look:

Luke 1:28 KJV
And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

Zephaniah 3:14-18 KJV
Sing, O daughter of Zion; shout, O Israel; be glad and rejoice with all the heart, O daughter of Jerusalem. [15] The Lord hath taken away thy judgments, he hath cast out thine enemy: the king of Israel, even the Lord, is in the midst of thee: thou shalt not see evil any more. [16] In that day it shall be said to Jerusalem, Fear thou not: and to Zion, Let not thine hands be slack. [17] The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing. [18] I will gather them that are sorrowful for the solemn assembly, who are of thee, to whom the reproach of it was a burden.

Word for word?!?!? Not even close! The only thing remotely close is Luke 1:28 says "the Lord is with thee" and the passage from Zeph says twice "the Lord is in the midst of thee". Well thats close but overall... This isn't word for word. Frankly, I don't believe its talking about Mary at all, but that is another debate.

Furthermore, "...blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus..." is repeated a whopping 280 times but for some strange reason, that part of the "Hail Mary" prayer is obscured to anti-Mary Christians.
No its not. At least in the version I presented. I am going on what I presented. If this is wrong, please feel free to set the record straight.
Jesus did not condemn repetition (He did it Himself). He condemned the vanity. There is no place for show-off's in corporate recitations. What you find is reverence. We meditate on the main events of the history of salvation during the 280 times which serves as background, you only see it as foreground and have misrepresented your misspelled link.
Actually, he did condemn repetition. He called repetition vain. Yes... Jesus did pray, "...take this cup away from me, nevertheless not my will..." And he prayed it twice (I think it may have been three times). But it was the prayers of a man who was about to die a horrible death over the course of a few hours! This is a bit different than saying, "Hello Mary", "Hail Mary" or "rejoice Mary" 280 times in the couse of an hour or however long it takes. And again, my apologies for the typo.

By the way... Did I ever bring this up? I looked back at my post... I don't see where I brought up the topic of vain repetition.
I've been in Protestant services where "praise Jesus" can be heard 50 times a minute at praise time. It means the same thing as "...blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus..." but automatically wrong when Catholics repeat Scripture???
Well I have said "praise Jesus" multiple times... True. But it wasn't in prayer. I was worshipping... And like you said... Worship isn't prayer. Its praise and worship.

And by the way... What scriptures are those who pray the Rosary repeating?
 

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Again, my apologies. Thank you for providing the proper link.


I am not anti Mary, nor am I making any myths.


Well, that's not entirely true. Judas said hail to Jesus before kissing him. The crowd cried Hail King of the Jews before crucifying him. Obviously I don't condone these hails! But here's something I didn't know: "Hail Mary" isn't in the Bible either. The angel just said "Hail, thou art favored.. " But... Yes he was talking to Mary so it really isn't a big point.


Well that is interesting because in Joel 2:23 it says:
Joel 2:23 KJV
Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God:

Yet, you say the Bible says there isn't any "Hail (rejoice) Jesus". That seems pretty close. Zech 9:9 says for the daughters of zion and jerusalem to rejoice because the king is coming.

But does "hail" really mean rejoice? I found this on The Rosary
(Maybe you recognize the website):

"The prayer begins, “Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.” This is nothing other than the greeting the angel Gabriel gave Mary in Luke 1:28 (Confraternity Version)"

So "hail" is a greeting... Like, "Hello Mary". Or if you pray the Rosary, "Hello Mary, Hello Mary, Hello Mary Hello Mary, Hello Mary, Hello Mary, Hello Mary, Hello Mary, Hello Mary, Hello Mary" Then do it 19 more times.
So is it "rejoice" or a greeting? In Luke 1:28 it could work both ways.


Really? Ok. Lets have a look:

Luke 1:28 KJV
And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

Zephaniah 3:14-18 KJV
Sing, O daughter of Zion; shout, O Israel; be glad and rejoice with all the heart, O daughter of Jerusalem. [15] The Lord hath taken away thy judgments, he hath cast out thine enemy: the king of Israel, even the Lord, is in the midst of thee: thou shalt not see evil any more. [16] In that day it shall be said to Jerusalem, Fear thou not: and to Zion, Let not thine hands be slack. [17] The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing. [18] I will gather them that are sorrowful for the solemn assembly, who are of thee, to whom the reproach of it was a burden.

Word for word?!?!? Not even close! The only thing remotely close is Luke 1:28 says "the Lord is with thee" and the passage from Zeph says twice "the Lord is in the midst of thee". Well thats close but overall... This isn't word for word. Frankly, I don't believe its talking about Mary at all, but that is another debate.


No its not. At least in the version I presented. I am going on what I presented. If this is wrong, please feel free to set the record straight.

Actually, he did condemn repetition. He called repetition vain. Yes... Jesus did pray, "...take this cup away from me, nevertheless not my will..." And he prayed it twice (I think it may have been three times). But it was the prayers of a man who was about to die a horrible death over the course of a few hours! This is a bit different than saying, "Hello Mary", "Hail Mary" or "rejoice Mary" 280 times in the couse of an hour or however long it takes. And again, my apologies for the typo.

By the way... Did I ever bring this up? I looked back at my post... I don't see where I brought up the topic of vain repetition.

Well I have said "praise Jesus" multiple times... True. But it wasn't in prayer. I was worshipping... And like you said... Worship isn't prayer. Its praise and worship.

And by the way... What scriptures are those who pray the Rosary repeating?
We meditate on the main events in the history of salvation. If you want to narrow that down to "repetition" fine, but you are still missing the point.
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My preference is the Scriptural rosary, where each "Hail Mary" is accompanied with Scripture: For the sake of brevity, I will explain using one decade out of twenty. This method keeps the mind focused on the main events in salvation history, it's not just about Mary as you may think. Here is a sample.
For more samples, scroll down to the list here.
 

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Show me where scripture says baptism has to be public and I will join your cult.

Show me where i said that water baptism "has to be public".
I never said this..
So, ether learn to read more carefully, or next time try to be honest.
You decide that one.
 

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You can be honest and still be confused. One does not cancel out the other.

I don't know what a water cult is. I guess God is part of the "water cult" since in Genesis God used water to destroy or wash away the wicked people and saved Noah and his family. :(


The water in Genesis didnt "save Noah"..
THe Ark saved Noah.
The Water killed the people, outside the ARK.
Water was the judgment, not the savior.
= Think
 

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That is YOUR interpretation .

I didnt write the Acts of The Apostles.
So, what happned there, is not my opinion.
Why dont you just open the NT, and not in a corrupted Douay Rheims version, and read the Acts of the Apostles.
You'll find out soon enough, if you do this, that every time you find a water baptism in the ACTs, you will read that the person BELIEVED first= and THEN was water baptized.
 
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And who founded the United Pentecostal church?
Some former trin ministers in the early 1900's.

I did not say study with them or join them, just ask them to baptize you.

They adhere to Acts 2:38.
 

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Okay, I know Catholics struggle with scripture because they aren't allowed to make up their own minds as to what its actually saying, having to defer to the church even though the church's teaching may contradict scripture. What wild imagination you reveal is exemplified in the texts you have quoted above. Your claim that those texts support praying for each other is fully justified, and so we should, but how does that justify praying to one another?
And your scripture you quoted of Jesus declaring His power to resurrect the dead, is in and of itself undeniable. But how does that help your cause when other scriptures plainly, loudly, and consistently declare, from Jesus Himself and His apostles, that the resurrection takes place at the second coming, and therefore until that time, except for a select few, all who have died are still in their graves? How can anyone hear your prayers if their ears have decayed into dust? How will they relay your prayers to the Father while worms are eating their tongues? These are serious questions. I'm not being facetious...people need to explain these things if they believe as you seem to, that we can and should pray to the dead. I fear however that you will now revert to justifying and defending your belief through your church's teachings and those of the error ridden church fathers who deny scripture and by tradition, overturn the plain teaching of the word of God. By doing that, you begin to expound on anther religion that is opposed to Biblical Christianity.

you also have to be taught Lk 1:1-4
Matt 28:19
 
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Some former trin ministers in the early 1900's.

I did not say study with them or join them, just ask them to baptize you.

They adhere to Acts 2:38.

I need a priest?
Can’t be saved without a priest
A priest is the ordinary minister of baptism
 

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Yes, I suspect. Unless one goes up and asks them “are you worshiping that porcelain statue” then how could one know.

By your body language. If you are kneeling, that is bowing down to it. Forbidden. Even angels correct someone who kneels in front of them to stand up. Kneeling is the same as worship.

One of the ten commandments:

you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,

As I've shown you in the letter from Jesus to the church age of Thyatira (Rev. 2), your focus on Mary is the only thing He has against you. Can't you take the sacraments, and just not keep worshiping (and DON'T tell me you don't as you kneel before her) statues of Mary? No more rosary! Please. You seem like you want to obey Jesus, so obey Him. It is not hard.
 
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By your body language. If you are kneeling, that is bowing down to it. Forbidden. Even angels correct someone who kneels in front of them to stand up. Kneeling is the same as worship.

One of the ten commandments:

you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,

As I've shown you in the letter from Jesus to the church age of Thyatira (Rev. 2), your focus on Mary is the only thing He has against you. Can't you take the sacraments, and just not keep worshiping (and DON'T tell me you don't as you kneel before her) statues of Mary? No more rosary! Please. You seem like you want to obey Jesus, so obey Him. It is not hard.
Thanks Lady,

What I would ask you to recognize is that their is a distinction between thinking a piece of stone or plaster is a god/goddess. Desiring to visually remember Mary by making statues in her honor is different. The making and use of religious statues is a thoroughly biblical practice. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know his Bible.

God commands the making of statues. For example: “And you shall make two cherubim of gold [i.e., two gold statues of angels]; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end; of one piece of the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends. The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be” (Ex. 25:18–20).

During a plague of serpents sent to punish the Israelites during the exodus, God told Moses to “make [a statue of] a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and every one who is bitten, when he sees it shall live. So Moses made a bronze serpent, and set it on a pole; and if a serpent bit any man, he would look at the bronze serpent and live” (Num. 21:8–9).

One had to look at the bronze statue of the serpent to be healed, which shows that statues could be used ritually, not merely as religious decorations.

Bowing can be used as a posture in worship, not all bowing/kneeling is worship. A person can kneel before a king without worshipping him as a god. In the same way, a Catholic who may kneel in front of a statue while praying isn’t worshipping the statue or even praying to it, any more than the Protestant who kneels with a Bible in his hands when praying is worshipping the Bible or praying to it.

The most important thing to remember is that The Church condemns the worshiping of graven images. If there are some members of the flock that are doing that they are in violation of Church teaching. So it sounds like you are in agreement with The Church.
 

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I didnt write the Acts of The Apostles.
So, what happned there, is not my opinion.
Why dont you just open the NT, and not in a corrupted Douay Rheims version, and read the Acts of the Apostles.
You'll find out soon enough, if you do this, that every time you find a water baptism in the ACTs, you will read that the person BELIEVED first= and THEN was water baptized.
OK....I will throw out the rest of Scripture and only adhere to Actso_O....Thank You

And....once again...show me where i have written or The Church teaches that one doesn’t have to believe before they are baptized. I never said it and The Church doesn’t teach is so your allegation is false.
 
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The water in Genesis didnt "save Noah"..
THe Ark saved Noah.
The Water killed the people, outside the ARK.
Water was the judgment, not the savior.
= Think
Some may fall for un-biblical teaching that Protestant men taught you but I won’t.

Here is what scripture says: eight souls, were saved through water. That IS completely opposite of what you just said.

Think before you type kiddo....read scripture before you comment on it.
 

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Show me where i said that water baptism "has to be public".
I never said this..
So, ether learn to read more carefully, or next time try to be honest.
You decide that one.
You failed!!! Looks like I’m not joining your cult.
 
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By your body language. If you are kneeling, that is bowing down to it. Forbidden. Even angels correct someone who kneels in front of them to stand up. Kneeling is the same as worship.

One of the ten commandments:

you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,

As I've shown you in the letter from Jesus to the church age of Thyatira (Rev. 2), your focus on Mary is the only thing He has against you. Can't you take the sacraments, and just not keep worshiping (and DON'T tell me you don't as you kneel before her) statues of Mary? No more rosary! Please. You seem like you want to obey Jesus, so obey Him. It is not hard.

when you knell by your bed to pray are you committing idolatry?

no adoration!
No offering of sacrifice!
No worship!
No idolatry!
 

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Thanks Lady,

What I would ask you to recognize is that their is a distinction between thinking a piece of stone or plaster is a god/goddess. Desiring to visually remember Mary by making statues in her honor is different. The making and use of religious statues is a thoroughly biblical practice. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know his Bible.

God commands the making of statues. For example: “And you shall make two cherubim of gold [i.e., two gold statues of angels]; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end; of one piece of the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends. The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be” (Ex. 25:18–20).

During a plague of serpents sent to punish the Israelites during the exodus, God told Moses to “make [a statue of] a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and every one who is bitten, when he sees it shall live. So Moses made a bronze serpent, and set it on a pole; and if a serpent bit any man, he would look at the bronze serpent and live” (Num. 21:8–9).

One had to look at the bronze statue of the serpent to be healed, which shows that statues could be used ritually, not merely as religious decorations.

Bowing can be used as a posture in worship, not all bowing/kneeling is worship. A person can kneel before a king without worshipping him as a god. In the same way, a Catholic who may kneel in front of a statue while praying isn’t worshipping the statue or even praying to it, any more than the Protestant who kneels with a Bible in his hands when praying is worshipping the Bible or praying to it.

The most important thing to remember is that The Church condemns the worshiping of graven images. If there are some members of the flock that are doing that they are in violation of Church teaching. So it sounds like you are in agreement with The Church.

It is the body language that determines whether you are worshiping or just remembering. You cannot kneel before a statue of Mary, even in remembrance. Nor can you use your rosary.
 
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