Amen. Now, whether Peter was baptized by then in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of his sins or not is irrelevant.
He simply practiced what he preached.
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He simply practiced what he preached.
Sure it was. In John 4:1-2.
I have said that a man can be saved through faith alone apart from water baptism but that water baptism will seal the deal so that a man can have absolute assurance.
This has always been my position since even before coming to these boards to teach.
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No, they received the Holy Ghost to lead them to baptismal salvation per Acts 2:38.
@Behold's argument is that if Peter was not baptized before, he had the Holy Ghost and the gift of tongues before he was baptized.
I agree that the remission of sins was accomplished when Cornelius and friends were baptized.
That is possible that Peter had not yet found remission of sins until he was baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of his sins.
As long as he took care of it, he practiced what he preached.
@Behold I agree with you that new birth comes before baptism. And that being baptised either as a baby or adult means nothing without previously having the new birth experience. I was baptised a good few years after I experienced spiritual re-birth. I know the ideal is to do it soon after being born again but the fact that I wasn't able to did not mean I wasn't a new Christian and also was first baptised in the Spirit and spoke in tongues before I was able to get baptised in water.
It should be clear that Jesus will confess you before His Father and the angels as the result of the fact that you received baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.
JesusLovesYou
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5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except one be born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God!
This is the verse from John 3. The water in this case symbolizes dying to self and rising again as a new creation, or as Jesus said, being born again. This is what baptism is, a symbol of one’s rebirth. Most importantly, from the moment one is born again, the Holy Spirit begins the transforming work, which yields the fruit of the Spirit. The fruit of the Spirit is the evidence that what happened in the water is something meaningful. This is what the Word of God says, and whoever says otherwise does not have a biblical faith.
Going underneath the water and coming up out of it to "walk in newness of life" (Romans 6:4) is an identification with the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ; and as such it is a confession of Jesus before men.
Read Matthew 10:32 to determine whether or not such a thing has the power to save a person.
While I will also say that if a person merely calls on the name of the Lord, they shall be saved (even apart from water baptism)...Romans 10:13.
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I suppose that if I retreated to start another thread every time that I was defeated logically, I still would not be starting a bunch of threads (because I am not defeated logically very often...hardly ever, in fact).
But that seems to be what you do. You don't follow through and win the battle. You go somewhere else and take it up in a different thread.
That is what I used to do when I didn't have the truth on my side.
These days, I stick to the thread that I am battling in until the battle is done.
I am not on your threads to learn from you but to combat the false doctrines that are taught by you.
And that is not going to change.
Peter and the 120 were not water baptized, and they still "spoke with tongues " and were born again, = Acts chapter 2.
So, the water cult doctrine of devils, that says that WATER Baptism causes "the infilling of the spirit" and that we are "born again by water", didnt happen to Peter or the 120.
mailmandan
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I appreciate that you are a Junior Catholic in training........i'm really impressed.
Can you tell?
But here is the reality..
= Peter and the 120 were not water baptized, and they still "spoke with tongues " and were born again, = Acts chapter 2.
So, the water cult doctrine of devils, that says that WATER Baptism causes "the infilling of the spirit" and that we are "born again by water", didnt happen to Peter or the 120.
Look carefully at the verse.
He that BELIEVES NOT.......= Shall be damned.
Notice that it does not include the water baptism........
Why is that?
Because Salvation is God using the BLOOD of Jesus, to save you, when you BELIEVE.
So, if you dont BELIEVE, you are a CHRIST REJECTOR, which is the UN-BELIEVING that DAMNS You.
Water has nothing to do with this..
Yet just yesterday you are going to "pray for you Behold", because you decided that because i dont trust in water, i must not be saved.
So, as i said, everytime you are caught inside your ridiculous self saving by abiding, or now its, by water, you come the next day and pretend you never said any of it, and you are trying to agree with me.
Its pathetic to watch you, and how you behave on a Christian fourm.
You are like the wind.......you blow east then you blow west, never knowing how you will blow next.
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