I really wish that you would-be Greek experts would toss that Strong's dictionary out of the nearest window. It causes more harm than good when those who do not know Greek use it.
That is your opinion as you are likely already corrupt [theologically] with the traditions of man. If one wants to understand the Word of God, one uses Strong's. If one wants to have a corrupt understanding, one can try another source.
Here we have case in point.
'Ek' is a preposition that means 'from' or 'out of' hence 'denoting origin.' It does not mean 'of' in the sense that you have in mind.
Well, you are in error [again]! Those who want to claim that the phantom 'spiritual gifts' originate [are 'out from'] from the Holy Spirit use the English rendering word 'of' as the basis for their claim. If you have been paying attention to this topic, you would have seen the following scriptures raised:
1Co 12:7
But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
Here, the biblically illiterate claim that the 'manifestation' is the same as 'spiritual gifts' and they use the word 'of' to claim that the manifestations are 'out from' [given by -- originate] from the Holy Spirit.
Heb 2:4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
Here, the biblically illiterate claim the word 'gifts' is the charismata and that the word 'of' means that the charismata originates [out from] by the Holy Ghost.
The real problem is not Dr. Strong's work. After all, his concordance is inextricably linked to the existing English rendering [King James Version]. In essence, the real problem is the KJV translation itself, whereby the rendering 'of' was made both for the Greek
EK and for the implied
of in the genitive case. If the KJV translators had never rendered the Greek
EK as 'of' and had reserved 'of' for the genitive implied
of only, much confusion could be avoided. When one uses Strong's properly, one can spot these mistranslations within the English rendering.
You misunderstand your Rom. 1:3 example. Proper names and words borrowed from other languages are 'indeclinable' which means they do not change form regardless of the role they play in a sentence the way nost nouns do. 'David' which is indeclinable is preceded by the preposition 'ek' followed by a noun in the genitive case meaning literally 'out of seed.' If 'David' were a declinable like most nouns it would be in the genitve case meaning 'of David.' Our English translation here is not the result of a translators whim. The use of the word 'of' is required.'
Also, the vast majority of times you see 'of' in your English translation it's a translation of a noun in the genitive case which means 'of' is not going to have its own Strong's number. Again, 'of' is part and parcel of the genitive case and is a required translation.
If you read what I wrote directly above herein, I don't think that we are in disagreement.
If you want to make arguments from Greek I suggest you put down your Strong's and get yourself a basic Greek grammar.
You misconstrue Dr. Strong's work. Dr. Strong is not stating that the Greek
EK is properly rendered as 'of'. In fact, you have agreed with his definition of the Greek word. The only reason that 'of' is included therein the listing under G1537 is because the KJV translators rendered it such way. The Strong's Concordance is not a Bible Commentary, but is simply a listing of the rendered translations and the meanings of those words in the original languages.
That is just plain old wrong. The Greek word 'charisma' can be rightly translated 'spiritual gifts. I don't know where in the world you got the idea that it can't.
That is your religious indoctrination [brainwashing] speaking and not your knowledge of Greek. You have already been brainwashed into believing that 'charisma' is given by the Holy Spirit; whereby, in actuality, there is no such evidence to support your position. Check it out in Strong's -
G5486
χάρισμα
charisma
char'-is-mah
From G5483; a (divine) gratuity, that is, deliverance (from danger or passion); (specifically) a (spiritual) endowment, that is, (subjectively) religious qualification, or (objectively) miraculous faculty: - (free) gift.
At best, one can claim it to mean a 'divine gratuity', but, there is no way one can get 'spiritual gift' out of it. If Paul intended to say 'spiritual gift', it was certainly in his vernacular to do so, as he did here -
Rom 1:11
For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;
What would you like to do with the following verses?
1Co 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Co 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit. . .
I would do nothing with them -- they are perfectly clear to me. In v. 4, Paul is stating that there are many skills and abilities, but one Holy Spirit. In v. 9, you have to go back to verse 8 first for understanding -
1Co 12:8
For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
The operative wording for understanding is 'given by'. If Paul meant that the items listed actually originated from the Holy Spirit, the Greek word
EK would have been utilized. But, instead different wording is used -
1Co 12:8
ForG1063 to oneG3739 G3303 is givenG1325 byG1223 theG3588 SpiritG4151 the wordG3056 of wisdom;G4678 to(G1161) anotherG243 the wordG3056 of knowledgeG1108 byG2596 theG3588 sameG846 Spirit;G4151
It is G1325 in Strong's -
G1325
δίδωμι
didōmi
did'-o-mee
A prolonged form of a primary verb (which is used as an alternate in most of the tenses); to give (used in a very wide application, properly or by implication, literally or figuratively; greatly modified by the connection): - adventure, bestow, bring forth, commit, deliver (up), give, grant, hinder, make, minister, number, offer, have power, put, receive, set, shew, smite (+ with the hand), strike (+ with the palm of the hand), suffer, take, utter, yield.
There is nothing therein to suggest 'origination' like the Greek EK.
G1223 in Strong's -
G1223
διά
dia
dee-ah'
A primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; through (in very wide applications, local, causal or occasional). In composition it retains the same general import: - after, always, among, at, to avoid, because of (that), briefly, by, for (cause) . . . fore, from, in, by occasion of, of, by reason of, for sake, that, thereby, therefore, X though, through (-out), to, wherefore, with (-in). In composition it retains the same general import.
It becomes clear that the Holy Spirit channels the skills and abilities that all have been given at birth.