JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

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Describes your doctrine perfectly!
Sure, God is a plurality of his OWN-SELF, hence his ONENESS, as the EQUAL Share of himself in Flesh, which was "TO COME IN THE END TIMES.
and the term "ORDINAL", certifies these two dispensation in "TIME", "PLACE", RANK", and in "ORDER". and these two dispensation is amalgamated in this LAST DAY, where is the Spirit is Glorified in Flesh and bone, the "HOLY GHOST".

so in conclusion, the Ordinal "First", JESUS, the LORD, is Father, and Maker of all things, and he was "ALONE", and "BY HIMSELF", Genesis 1:1, until these "LAST" Days, coming in flesh and blood as a man, "Lord, the Ordinal Last, Jesus, the Son, starting at John 1:1. and the Revelation of him to come..... Revelation 1:1.

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ps, the only difference between "Diversified Oneness", and the "Trinity" is this....... "the Share one person" vs "Three Distinct separate Persons".
 

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Sure, God is a plurality of his OWN-SELF, hence his ONENESS, as the EQUAL Share of himself in Flesh, which was "TO COME IN THE END TIMES.
and the term "ORDINAL", certifies these two dispensation in "TIME", "PLACE", RANK", and in "ORDER". and these two dispensation is amalgamated in this LAST DAY, where is the Spirit is Glorified in Flesh and bone, the "HOLY GHOST".

so in conclusion, the Ordinal "First", JESUS, the LORD, is Father, and Maker of all things, and he was "ALONE", and "BY HIMSELF", Genesis 1:1, until these "LAST" Days, coming in flesh and blood as a man, "Lord, the Ordinal Last, Jesus, the Son, starting at John 1:1. and the Revelation of him to come..... Revelation 1:1.

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ps, the only difference between "Diversified Oneness", and the "Trinity" is this....... "the Share one person" vs "Three Distinct separate Persons".
More smoke screen to hide your rejection of Jesus the Son of God! Your doctrine is antiChrist!
 

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Listen to the scripture, Matthew 27:52 "And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,"
Matthew 27:53 "And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many."

did you see the KEYWORD ..... "appeared", not resurrected. and there are many ways to appear. now G money, when God ... "appeared" to abrahsm.... was he resurrected, or even dead? thank you, but he ... "appeared". now listen closley, "many bodies of the saints which slept arose". 1 Corinthians 15:38 "But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body." NOW THINK, WHICH BODY ROSE? read it again.

look, you fellas ask question, but never grasp anything. think, put things together.


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"appeared" is not the question. The question is what kind of a body did they appear in? You cannot tell me and I have no evidence to complete a full argument. However, if a grave suddenly opened in front of me and the body I saw was not corrupted with worms and maggots etc., then I would think this body is a resurrected body. That is all I can say.
 

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"appeared" is not the question. The question is what kind of a body did they appear in? You cannot tell me and I have no evidence to complete a full argument. However, if a grave suddenly opened in front of me and the body I saw was not corrupted with worms and maggots etc., then I would think this body is a resurrected body. That is all I can say.
ok tell me this, what body did God have when he appeared to Abraham? Genesis 18:1 "And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;" now don't lie ok, now think before speak. because the LORD can appear in a dream, or a vision and it can be as real as in person, just ask Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, who in the vision was picked up by his hair... (smile), now tell us G money what body did God have in "APPERANCE" to Abraham? cain't wait to hear this answer.

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The Body, the Body, The Body of Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?"
1 Corinthians 3:17 "If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are."

who is the Temple and who dwells in it?

Ephesians 2:16 "And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:"
Ephesians 2:17 "And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh."
Ephesians 2:18 "For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father."
Ephesians 2:19 "Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;"
Ephesians 2:20 "And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;"
Ephesians 2:21 "In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:"
Ephesians 2:22 "In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit."

wait a Minute, the apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?"
and now in Ephesians 2:21 "In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord?"

lets get an understanding,
Hebrews 3:6 "But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end."

wait another minute, we're Christ House, I thought we're God's House/Temple? and he God dewlls in us. ....... well he do, John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." abode here means to dwells. BINGO, because the Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of God, Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.". Romans 8:10 "And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness." well How is christ in us? by his Spirit. so if the Spirit of christ is not the Spirit of God, then one have two Spirit which is polytheism by definition.

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ok tell me this, what body did God have when he appeared to Abraham? Genesis 18:1 "And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;" now don't lie ok, now think before speak. because the LORD can appear in a dream, or a vision and it can be as real as in person, just ask Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, who in the vision was picked up by his hair... (smile), now tell us G money what body did God have in "APPERANCE" to Abraham? cain't wait to hear this answer.

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I can tell you what I believe.

I believe that the Lord that appeared too Abraham God the Father, because I believe that God the Father has a body of flesh and bone and spirit. This Lord that appeared to Abraham was able to eat and drink with Abraham, which a spirit cannot do. Therefore this Lord could not have been Jesus because I believe at this time before his earthly ministry, Jesus was only a spirit and could not have eaten mortal food.

Remember, God the Father created men and women in his own image and likness. Therefore since men and women have bodies of flesh and bone and spirit, so must the God that created them.

Therefore the Lord that appeared to Abraham on the plains of Mamre was God the Father. This is confirmed when you look a little further in the scriptures:
Genesis 19:22-24 King James Version (KJV)
22 Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do anything till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.
23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;

Here the same Lord that appeared to Abraham is having a conversation with Lot, who is trying to escape the destruction, and the Lord on the earth is telling Lot to get into Zoar because he cannot do anything until he does.
Then after Lot gets into Zoar, the Lord on earth called down fire and brimstone from the Lord in heaven. This is one of two famous 2 Lords scriptures, where is proven that there are 2 Lords, one is God the Father, who has a body of flesh and bone and spirit and visited and ate and drank with Abraham, and another Lord who was in heaven, Jesus, who was only a spirit at that time. The Lord, God the Father, on the earth, called down fire and brimstone from heaven and the Lord in heaven sent the flying destuction.

Does that answer your question?
 

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I can tell you what I believe.

I believe that the Lord that appeared too Abraham God the Father, because I believe that God the Father has a body of flesh and bone and spirit. This Lord that appeared to Abraham was able to eat and drink with Abraham, which a spirit cannot do. Therefore this Lord could not have been Jesus because I believe at this time before his earthly ministry, Jesus was only a spirit and could not have eaten mortal food.
who said a spirit cannot eat mortal food? lets see, Luke 24:39 "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." ok, lets see if the Lord Jesus ate anything while a spirit IMMORTAL, like himself.... lets contuine, Luke 24:40 "And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet."Luke 24:41 "And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?"Luke 24:42 "And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb."Luke 24:43 "And he took it, and did eat before them."
well that eating as an IMMORTAL spirit, with a GLORIFIED BODY, or any body ... in apperance, just went down the tubes.

you're thinking in the NATURAL FLESH... LOL, LOL, LOL, listen up. 1 Corinthians 15:35 "But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?"1 Corinthians 15:36 "Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:"1 Corinthians 15:37 "And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:"
1 Corinthians 15:38 "But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body."

understand just because something "APPEAR", but as WHAT? hear the scriptures, God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him. and what did 1 John say, "we shall be as, as, as, he is", same "APPERANCE", but as God pleased. you might want to brush up on your knowledge of "Apperance", and "Manifestation".

understand G money, God used .... Hosea 12:10 "I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets.". BINGO..... see an Image is only another similitude which is The quality or state of being similar to something meaning not the same thing, that why one is to be RESURRECT, or "CHANGED"... BINGO. see G money that Natural thing that our mother's and father's produce, (our bodies), will be done away with... :oops: oop's .... lol. what's natural is not spiritual, did you not get the e-mail... listen, 1 Corinthians 15:44 "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body."
ONLY IN "APPERANCE" .... my GOD this is basice bible study. come on G money, have you not read 1 Corinthians 15:44? Oh well one have to meet people where they are.

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who said a spirit cannot eat mortal food? lets see, Luke 24:39 "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." ok, lets see if the Lord Jesus ate anything while a spirit IMMORTAL, like himself.... lets contuine, Luke 24:40 "And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet."Luke 24:41 "And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?"Luke 24:42 "And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb."Luke 24:43 "And he took it, and did eat before them."
well that eating as an IMMORTAL spirit, with a GLORIFIED BODY, or any body ... in apperance, just went down the tubes.

you're thinking in the NATURAL FLESH... LOL, LOL, LOL, listen up. 1 Corinthians 15:35 "But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?"1 Corinthians 15:36 "Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:"1 Corinthians 15:37 "And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:"
1 Corinthians 15:38 "But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body."

understand just because something "APPEAR", but as WHAT? hear the scriptures, God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him. and what did 1 John say, "we shall be as, as, as, he is", same "APPERANCE", but as God pleased. you might want to brush up on your knowledge of "Apperance", and "Manifestation".

understand G money, God used .... Hosea 12:10 "I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets.". BINGO..... see an Image is only another similitude which is The quality or state of being similar to something meaning not the same thing, that why one is to be RESURRECT, or "CHANGED"... BINGO. see G money that Natural thing that our mother's and father's produce, (our bodies), will be done away with... :oops: oop's .... lol. what's natural is not spiritual, did you not get the e-mail... listen, 1 Corinthians 15:44 "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body."
ONLY IN "APPERANCE" .... my GOD this is basice bible study. come on G money, have you not read 1 Corinthians 15:44? Oh well one have to meet people where they are.

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Answer this question, when the Lord Jesus Christ visited his apostles, after he was raised from the dead, did he visit them with a body of flesh and bones and spirit, or did he visit them as just a spirit? Please answer.
 

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Answer this question, when the Lord Jesus Christ visited his apostles, after he was raised from the dead, did he visit them with a body of flesh and bones and spirit, or did he visit them as just a spirit? Please answer.
RESURRECTED flesh and bone, no BLOOD, did you get that ... NOT Natural FLESH and BONE, but CHANGED, not natural, but in "APPERANCE".

see Natural Flesh require BLOOD, which he he don't have.... :eek: YIKES!

this is just unbelievable,

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RESURRECTED flesh and bone, no BLOOD, did you get that ... NOT Natural FLESH and BONE, but CHANGED, not natural, but in "APPERANCE".

see Natural Flesh require BLOOD, which he he don't have.... :eek: YIKES!

this is just unbelievable,

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Simmer down 101G.

Of course it was not natural flesh and blood, I never, ever said that.
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So you say it was resurrected and changed flesh and bone? Yes, you are getting close. You forgot the spirit. Jesus's make up at the time he visited his apostles after his resurrection was resurrected flesh and bone and spirit.

Do you agree that the apostles were able to feel his resurrected flesh and bone and spirit body?
Do you agree that the apostles witnessed that Jesus ate with this reurrected flesh and bone and spirit body?
OR do you think Jesus only 'appeared' to have a resurrected body of flesh and bone and spirit? But he really didn't because he was only a spirit when he visited his apostles after his resurrection?

Which is it? A resurrected body of flesh and bone and spirit that was felt by the apostled and which he ate food with the apostles, OR was Jesus just a spirit and just 'appeared' to have flesh and bone and spirit? Which is it. Tell me.
 

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So you say it was resurrected and changed flesh and bone? Yes, you are getting close. You forgot the spirit. Jesus's make up at the time he visited his apostles after his resurrection was resurrected flesh and bone and spirit.
LOL, as you said, "I know this"... :rolleyes: YIKES.
Do you agree that the apostles were able to feel his resurrected flesh and bone and spirit body?
LOL, you are nearly tickling me to laugh.... I know this too, did i not already posted this? well lets do it again, Luke 24:39 "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."Luke 24:40 "And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet." .... (smile).
Do you agree that the apostles witnessed that Jesus ate with this reurrected flesh and bone and spirit body?
OR do you think Jesus only 'appeared' to have a resurrected body of flesh and bone and spirit? But he really didn't because he was only a spirit when he visited his apostles after his resurrection?
see what you think is real is nothing but a creation, but Jesus is REAL, as his body. and many beside the apostles witness this. listen,
1 Corinthians 15:5 "And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:"
1 Corinthians 15:6 "After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep."
1 Corinthians 15:7 "After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles."1 Corinthians 15:8 "And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time."
over 500 at one time.... BINGO.
OR do you think Jesus only 'appeared' to have a resurrected body of flesh and bone and spirit?
CORRECTION, the Spirit is never resurrected, it do not "die".... :p YIKES.
Which is it? A resurrected body of flesh and bone and spirit that was felt by the apostled and which he ate food with the apostles, OR was Jesus just a spirit and just 'appeared' to have flesh and bone and spirit? Which is it. Tell me.
see above. and see, can I believe this, below from kcnalp.

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1 Corinthians 15:44 (NKJV)
44 There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

G money you got to improve your game, no put down, but just an observation.

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LOL, as you said, "I know this"... :rolleyes: YIKES.

LOL, you are nearly tickling me to laugh.... I know this too, did i not already posted this? well lets do it again, Luke 24:39 "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."Luke 24:40 "And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet." .... (smile).

see what you think is real is nothing but a creation, but Jesus is REAL, as his body. and many beside the apostles witness this. listen,
1 Corinthians 15:5 "And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:"
1 Corinthians 15:6 "After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep."
1 Corinthians 15:7 "After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles."1 Corinthians 15:8 "And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time."
over 500 at one time.... BINGO.

CORRECTION, the Spirit is never resurrected, it do not "die".... :p YIKES.

see above. and see, can I believe this, below from kcnalp.

now a schock


G money you got to improve your game, no put down, but just an observation.

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C'mon, confess that Jesus is the Son of God. You can do it. Believe in Jesus, the Son of God. It's not too late, yet.

Romans 10:10-11 (NKJV)
10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame."
 

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C'mon, confess that Jesus is the Son of God. You can do it. Believe in Jesus, the Son of God. It's not too late, yet.

Romans 10:10-11 (NKJV)
10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame."
"C'mon, confess that Jesus is the Son of God." what do you think I have been doing all of this time?

no, it's not too late.... I hope not... Revelation 22:11. now re-read this post.

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"C'mon, confess that Jesus is the Son of God." what do you think I have been doing all of this time?

no, it's not too late.... I hope not... Revelation 22:11. now re-read this post.

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So, here and now, confess that Jesus is the Son of God and "God the Father". If can't then your doctrines are antiChrist!

1 John 2:22 (NKJV)
22 He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.
 

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You still haven't confessed Jesus is the Son of God. Another smoke screen! Your doctrines are antiChrist!

1 John 2:22 (NKJV)
22 He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.
No scripture, thought so.

see those titles, Father, son, and Holy Ghost are 3 titles in ONE PERSOS... BINGO. :D YIKES.

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No scripture, thought so.

see those titles, Father, son, and Holy Ghost are 3 titles in ONE PERSOS... BINGO. :D YIKES.

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Are you now denying 1 John 2:22 is Scripture?
22 He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son, is Scripture?

Wouldn't surprise me whatsoever!
 
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Are you now denying 1 John 2:22 (NKJV)
22 He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son, is Scripture?

Wouldn't surprise me whatsoever!
watch is only in one verse, Isaiah 35:5... :eek: YIKES!.
ain't God GOOD, and he's the GREATIST.

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