Cry on The Cross

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Christina

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Why did Jesus cry out on the cross My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? It was to lead you to psalm 22 which was written 1000 yearsbefore Christ and prophesied exactly what would happen, right down to the casting of lots for his clothing.
 

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I also like to think that it had to do with the fact that at that moment, right before his death, he took upon himself all of our sins. And being sinful, God turned his back on him for a time, after which, his death was the ultimate sacrifice, which brings us into a new covenant. So, When he says, My God, Why have you forsaken me, it is because he feels empty and alone for the first time in his life, and it is awful. That is what I think.
 

Christina

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You may be right sevverbut if so wasn't it wonderfull that even feeling those emotions he took time to still teach us to the end.
 

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The entire symbolism of Christ's sufferings upon the cross is so profound that it birthed in my faith in the assurance that such a story could not have been written by a man.I am certain the previous posts are accurate in reference to Christ's quote of the psalm which prophesied powerfully of His sufferings upon the cross (it is important to mention this is the only recording of Christ addressing the Father merely as God)...And that in the moments of His sufferings, took upon Himself the separation that comes with sin, when He bore the judgment of our sins upon Himself.How both of these theories can be accurate deals with the many deities and offices that Christ fulfilled in coming in the flesh.As the Son of God and the Son of Man, He is our perfect example and contrast to the fallen nature of Adam. As the Son of Abraham and the Son of David, the Jewish Messiah, He through His offering grants the blessings of Abraham upon those who accept Christ's lineage through Betrothal/Adoption. As the Word of God He is the manifestation of the doctrine of grace and heart of God (Matt 12:34, 15:18) and by “becoming sin for us” He illustrates the severity of the judgment of God.I find great poetic justice in the aspect of the story relating to the deity of Christ as the Word of God. For just as in the beginning God ALONE created the heavens and the earth, speaking those things into existence by His Word according to His perfect will, showing Himself openly triumphant over vanity, chaos, darkness, and nothingness by the "spoken" Word, just as He is victorious over sin, hell, death, and the grave by the manifestation of His Word in the flesh, Jesus Christ. ALONE God did these things, both creation and salvation, and shall stand exalted alone in the day of Judgment! (Isa 44:24, Matt 26:56, Isa 2:17, 63:3). Simultaneously did God  condemn the wickedness of man for the false accusation and trial of an innocent man (particularly those that professed righteousness through following the law of God yet proved hypocritical in their dealings with the people of God, even the prophesied Messiah.) condemn the perverted government of man that could allow this man to be put to death by such evidence (for the Gentiles were too easily swayed by the turning of the tide of politics that swiftly and purposefully moved against this man,  manifest the fulfillment of the law through grace through the doctrine of the prophesied Messiah. Manifest the necessity of God’s love and grace toward us, and, being manifested to us through our example, the necessity of our love and grace toward each other (John 13:34-35, 15:9, 10:17, 14:21+31, Matt 22:37-40) Take upon Himself the judgment befitting sin, that by that same measure of perverted justice that should accuse Christ of sin, might justify a sinner through Christ. (Rom 5)Surely the condemnation of the sinner is to refuse to examine such a history as this (John 3:18). He who can so refuse is due the same judgment borne by our Lord Himself. Sadly, Christ bore such, that man might not be forced to bear such judgment in vain, but rather that man might offer himself up to God in such self sacrifice as we have witnessed of God through Christ. Echoing another quotation of our Lord from the Psalms upon the cross; “Father, into thine hands I commit my spirit!” (Psalm 31, Luke 23:46, Rom 12:1).
 

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Kriss was right. Here is something my brother in law learned from seminary and shared with me. He said that the Jews read the scripture in the synagogue, starting from Genesis and would read it chronologically until they finished, and then they would start over again from Genesis. He said it took them something like a year to get through it all, although i dont remember the exact amount of time. In the synagogue at that time, the scripture was read from scrolls instead of a book. They would call up a scroll to be read by using the opening sentence of the scroll. I dont remember if it was because they didnt have verse numbers at that time or if that was just their tradition. So jesus saying "My God, my God, why have You forsaken me?" was like him calling up the scroll containing Psalm 22 which is a prophecy about Jesus. Psalm 22 is very discriptive and even talks about them casting lots for Jesus's garments.. Imagine being one of the Pharisees witnessing the crucifixion and seeing lots cast for his garments, and hearing Jesus call up that scroll... Next time they heard that scroll read or read it themsevles you could bet that they realised Jesus was who he said he was.I'm not saying that Sevver was wrong. Jesus could have said it after he felt the seperation and used it as a dual purposed sentence.
 

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I believe that is why Jesus said in Matt. 26:39, ""O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me." He knew that the Father wouldn't be able to look at Him once He took our sin upon Himself. That would cause Him more pain that what He was going through. He didn't ask for the cup to pass from Him because He wasn't willing to die for us, but because of that moment that the Father would turn away.
 

Jordan

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Considering Christ is God in the flesh, it makes sense that He was teaching them. Quoted from Psalm 22:1 ... That they could see that they are crucifying their Lord.
 

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Hello, When Jesus said the words: My God,my God, why have you forsaken me, he was not wondering why God had forsaken him. Jesus was with God when He created man, Gen 1:26-28, and Jesus was there when God gave the first prophecy, at Gen 3:15, about the seed that would be brusied in the heel and the seed that would be bruised in the head. Jesus knew that he was the one who would be bruised in the heel, which turned out to be a death of parts of three days. Jesus knew that he was DESTINED to come to earth to provide the Ransom sacrifice that would take away the sin of the world, John 1:29, Matt 20:28. Jesus was really asking: And WHY are you taking your spirit from me, because Jesus was sinless and the only way he could ever die is for God to take away His spirit from Jesus, Ps 104:29.
 

Christina

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Some what true however that's pretty much a given general reason but it was more exactly to teach and prophisize that he was the one prophesiesed to come It was to lead you to psalm 22 which was written 1000 yearsbefore Christ and prophesied exactly what would happen, right down to the casting of lots for his clothingPsalm 22: 1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
 

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QUOTE (Christina;65631)
Some what true however that's pretty much a given general reason but it was more exactly to teach and prophisize that he was the one prophesiesed to come It was to lead you to psalm 22 which was written 1000 yearsbefore Christ and prophesied exactly what would happen, right down to the casting of lots for his clothingPsalm 22: 1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
Psalm 118:22 - The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.Psalm 118:23 - This is the LORD's doing; it is marvellous in our eyes....Matthew 24:42 - Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?Mark 12:10 - And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:Mark 12:11 - This was the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?While it's true that Satan wanted to destroy the lineage of Christ to come through, his seedline doesn't even realize because of their pride that by crucifying Christ on the cross, that they did the Lord's Work instead of their father Satan's work... and even if they finished the most awesome God's Work, they are still blind to see that...
 

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Could it be Jesus said out loud "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" for a good reason shown below. He could have said this without verbally expressing it. Could He have said this out loud for our benefit? Because we know God did forsaken Jesus and knowing this we know His being forsaken means we will not be forsaken. This must happen for his full substation death to save us.Ken
 

Christina

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It may have some other meanings to some But the fact is Christ was teaching us on the cross that he was our hope the only way the prophesized messiah told of some 1000 years before hand . It was to lead you to psalm 22 which was written 1000 years before Christ and prophesied exactly what would happen, right down to the casting of lots for his clothing. Christ was teaching us he was the Messiah he was not talking to God he was speaking to us Read the first Words of the Psalm Psalm 22 1My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
 

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QUOTE (Christina @ Mar 11 2009, 02:54 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=70602
It may have some other meanings to some But the fact is Christ was teaching us on the cross that he was our hope the only way the prophesized messiah told of some 1000 years before hand . It was to lead you to psalm 22 which was written 1000 years before Christ and prophesied exactly what would happen, right down to the casting of lots for his clothing. Christ was teaching us he was the Messiah he was not talking to God he was speaking to us Read the first Words of the Psalm Psalm 22 1My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
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Psalm 118:22 - The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.Psalm 118:23 - This is the LORD's doing; it is marvellous in our eyes....Matthew 24:42 - Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?Mark 12:10 - And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:Mark 12:11 - This was the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?While it's true that Satan wanted to destroy the lineage of Christ to come through, his seedline doesn't even realize because of their pride that by crucifying Christ on the cross, that they did the Lord's Work instead of their father Satan's work... and even if they finished the most awesome God's Work, they are still blind to see that...
 

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That is one of the most awesome things I've ever read ever! I've always wondered why he said that! All the churches I've been too and all the preachers I've heard and all the Christians I've talked to and all the foot notes. In my entire life I have never read or heard anything about the reading of the scrolls!
 

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In my younger days I was taught that at the moment of Jesus' death He took all the sins of the world upon His shoulders.And since God is not able to look upon sin, He had to turn His head away at that moment.Hence, "Eloi, Eloi, Lama, Sabachthani."
 

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The Jews also read each book in the bible at certain times. Supposedly it was this time for Psalm 22. Also, "It is Finished" points to another psalm (I don't remember the number) But, this was the same psalm the Jews said each night before bedtime. That's what I heard from John MacArthur, although I'm not fond of his teachings, I thought this was interesting.Another point, was that Jesus Cryed out in a loud voice. If you were being crucified you wouldn't have the lung capacity, so at that time Jesus was far from dying. Thus also proving that since He could cry out, then it was his choice to lay down his life, and not that the nails or the suffocation of being hung on a cross.Edited to add)---- Sorry, I didn't notice a previous post that said almost the same thing....... didn't mean to copy you Ryangrom
 

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This is just my beleif but maybe it was to comfort the supporters of jesus watching him being crucified.