The Mark of the Beast Has Arrived
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The mark cannot arrive until satan has been kicked out of Heaven and arrives here on this earth live and in person , with his 7000 angels...
quietthinker
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He's been kicked out of heaven a long time.
Luke 10:18
“I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven"......Jesus
.....and he is here with his demons going around like a roaring Lion seeking who he may devour
1 Peter 5:8
Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.
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lilygrace
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No ,he ,(satan)gets kicked out at 666 ,Christ returns at 777
so my question to you, have you seen him, have you seen the miracles that he will perform in the sight of men, have you seen him on the temple of God claiming to be God ? No you haven't because he's not here yet
Revelation 12:7 "And there was war in heaven: Mi'-cha-el and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,,"
Revelation 12:8 "And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven."
This is prophesy that will come in the very near future.
Revelation 12:9 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Sa'-tan, which deceived the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
This has yet to happen, yes his evil spirit is here just like the Holy Spirit ,yet Christ is not here ,for every positive in God's Word, there's a negative
The below is when he (satan)is here on this earth
Revelation 13:13 "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men."
Revelation 13:14 "And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles [signs] which he had power [it was given him] to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live."
This is the whole object for the great tribulation. "DECEPTION"! Satan is going to make an image of this "one world system" [religious beast] and breath life into system. Their will be something symbolic created within the system that will cause the whole world to bow. This reminds me of the "image" created in Babylon's "one world government" under king Nebuchadnezzar, in Daniel 3. At that time there were only three that would not bow to the image.
Now please study what the mark of the beast truly is
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As for the below verse that you cited
Luke 10:18 "And He said unto them, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven."
This now is a new subject that Jesus is teaching us. This is Jesus speaking to His followers and it is prophetic, and refers back to the time of the garden of Eden, and Satan's fall from the first earth age. It also applies to Revelation 12: 7-9, when when Michael will cast Satan out onto the earth, and his fallen angels will come with him. So in the word "fall" indicates that Satan will be here in person because he was kicked out of heaven, and not on his own accord. The plan is set in motion, and it will take place exactly as it is written. Satan came in the first place as a deceiver, to destroy the seed line that the Christ would come through. The second time he will come as the false Messiah, to deceive all the people of the earth. It will happen exactly as it was prophesied.
Heck while we at it let's do the mark of the beast
Revelation 13:16 "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:"
This is the "Mark of the beast" which is confusing to many today. This mark is in your hand, and in your forehead. Can a electronic chip be put in your hand, and forehead change your beliefs? I don't think so.
"In your hand" is an idiom that means to do Satan's work. You do the work of Satan [the Antichrist] when you bring others to him, or help in his system. This mark in the hand is speaking in a spiritual sense. "In the forehead" is referring to your mind [brain]. Being deceived by Satan in your mind is when you think he is the true Christ, and in ignorance you worship him. No computer chip will condemn you, for it is your faith that you will be judged by.
As for the below verse that you cited
Luke 10:18 "And He said unto them, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven."
This now is a new subject that Jesus is teaching us. This is Jesus speaking to His followers and it is prophetic, and refers back to the time of the garden of Eden, and Satan's fall from the first earth age. It also applies to Revelation 12: 7-9, when when Michael will cast Satan out onto the earth, and his fallen angels will come with him. So in the word "fall" indicates that Satan will be here in person because he was kicked out of heaven, and not on his own accord. The plan is set in motion, and it will take place exactly as it is written. Satan came in the first place as a deceiver, to destroy the seed line that the Christ would come through. The second time he will come as the false Messiah, to deceive all the people of the earth. It will happen exactly as it was prophesied.
Heck while we at it let's do the mark of the beast
Revelation 13:16 "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:"
This is the "Mark of the beast" which is confusing to many today. This mark is in your hand, and in your forehead. Can a electronic chip be put in your hand, and forehead change your beliefs? I don't think so.
"In your hand" is an idiom that means to do Satan's work. You do the work of Satan [the Antichrist] when you bring others to him, or help in his system. This mark in the hand is speaking in a spiritual sense. "In the forehead" is referring to your mind [brain]. Being deceived by Satan in your mind is when you think he is the true Christ, and in ignorance you worship him. No computer chip will condemn you, for it is your faith that you will be judged by.
Do you understand that this vaccine is not a traditional vaccine? They are about to force the whole world to undergo gene therapy. This is not Godly. You are deceived. I beg you to please pray on this. We will soon be imprisoned for not taking this vaccine. Wake up.
It is big tech. They already can make fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. Wake up brother..
Stumpmaster
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Nothing in those posts to satisfactorily answer the question I'm asking you, which is what effect having or not having the mark has according to Scripture.
quietthinker
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People get imprisoned for not paying speeding fines and in some countries they deny certain ethnicities domicile without serious harassment.....and some are imprisoned in a mental illness....either one of their own making or no.
Do we put a spin on that as well? Is it not clear that the enemy's territory is oppressive to all its inhabitants?
I understand re the vaccines you might get imprisoned for not taking the vaccine but you might also get imprisoned by being framed because you fit into somebodies agenda. Global politics encompasses shifting the blame....religious politics is not that different.
Any persecution large or small for God's people will be because they hold the value of moral righteousness...of the Kingdom of God....of keeping Gods Commandments....of shinning like lights in a sick and sorry world.....because it is this that sets them apart.
quietthinker
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God's people will be harassed in some form if righteousness is the priority with the harassment increasing. The priorities of the world are to feather ones own nest to the exclusion of all and any who become a hinderance.
The overt opulent displays of many religious and secular systems in the face of grinding poverty are testimony to where their values are. The unashamed practice of parading the titles they give each other and the pride in displaying them further indicts them.
Yes, they have a mark alright....that of a/the beast.....but are oblivious to it!
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Stumpmaster
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How does that equate to:
- the prohibition on buying and selling
- the wisdom of counting the number which can be done by those with understanding.
quietthinker
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Stumpmaster
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Evasive reply from you but direct Scriptural answer from me.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
The ancient wisdom associated with counting the sum of numbers from 1 to 36 with pebbles in a triangle is rich in significance for those with understanding.
quietthinker
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Not intending to be evasive but wanting to draw you out so whatever answer is supplied is comprehended. Ok, sooo, let me ask this, where is the wisdom the scripture speaks of if it tells us 'the number'?? That's hardly wisdom at all if 'the number' is literal and is volunteered/supplied.
It is speaking in code, that's what's happening..... as is 'buying and selling' ....as is 'number of a man'
How one arranges that (understands) the code is where the wisdom lies. A clue: its connection has to do with the Gospel....but further and rather, the lack of it.....it has to do with a counterfeit gospel.....it has to do with man (corrupt)
Six is mans number....six reiterated three times is a repeated underscore of six.....its saying, take notice, I'm telling you three times.
The Gospel is God's unexpected, over the top unfathomable gratuitous gift.....it is a gift so comprehensive and free it takes one's breath away and not just mens but that of the angels and all in the Universe who watch this controversy/drama unfold.
A/the counterfeit gospel is one that offers advice.....one that sets all manner of obstacles and hoops to jump through in the path of God's free gift.....redefining 'free' and 'grace' and 'gave', putting a spin on it to get men to focus on their pious practice; their theological rightness and 'their neat and tidy processes' all the while eclipsing the breathtaking gift of God. It offers junk food and pedals it as 100% wholesome.
This....is the nature of the deceit of the enemy.....and the majority love it!
Nothing to do with big tech, satan is a super natural entity who will arrive on this earth ,in living color ,with his angels , just like in Gen 6
Are you deceived already with mere mortal men, not talking down, just curious .
Yes man can manipulate certain things , but not like the scripture I shared with you , you addressed one part of my reply but not the rest ,the main one being have you seen him (satan)?
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The spiritual effect is that you are one of God's people.
He has promised to protect His own and He will do that by taking them to a place of safety on earth. Revelation 12:6-14
But many must endure more trials and testing; Daniel 11:33-35, Rev 12:17 and some will be killed. They will be resurrected when Jesus Returns. Revelation 20:4
................ Wow if this is the mark....
Life must have been good during the medieval ages..
The SDA keep waiting for the Sunday Laws too according to their prophet. But they haven't shown up in a hundred years... unlikely to do so either.
Vaccination cards are going to be popular and useful for a while because of people like you that they want to keep out of places.
And by places I mean places of employment, places of gathering, and places of worship.
There is no really new technology being used with the vaccines... just because it's new to you doesn't mean that it is new. It's been a standard care practice with cancer patients.
Let me guess... you think blood transfusion is wrong too...how about organ transplant?
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