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@35:40 God’s Providence in Christ’s Burial JMA claiming it was Crucifixion day still:

<<Joseph of Arimathea knew the Jews wanted Jesus and the others dead, he knew their tradition, he knew they wanted them down before sundown, down before Sabbath, so he asked for the body>> --- BEFORE SABBATH!!

Really, the man never stops swindling, twisting, making Scripture lie and every believer of the two days of the Crucifixion and Burial of the Passover of Yahweh, a swindler and twister.
 

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@ 38:24 God’s Providence in Christ’s Burial <<Joseph isn’t hurrying…>>

Who said Joseph hurried? He did not hurry, but patiently, wisely, carefully, bravely, waited his opportunity to enter and ask Pilate for the body “after this .. the Jews” who before him had asked Pilate to get the bodies removed. Joseph had confidence in the Providence of the God and Father of the Passover Lamb of God. He had nothing and nobody to fear or to be in a hurry over.

Again JMA ADDS WORDS AND MEANINGS that are not there, with the clear intention to create the FALSE idea that it was the day of the Crucifixion still while the Sabbath of the week was FAST nearing and Joseph had LITTLE time -- <just then>. False, false, false!

Joseph had “That Whole Day BONE Essential Day”, “having already started” that “no leavened bread would be eaten”, before him. “It was evening already” on it, and “This That Selfsame NIGHT to be solemnly observed” presented itself to Joseph miraculously, God-sent, for the exact purpose of to bury of the passover “that which remained” – the body of Jesus. Joseph had That Day PROSPECTIVE before him in Mark 15:42 when no passover lamb would be slaughtered BECAUSE THE LAMB OF GOD OUR PASSOVER had already been killed and hanged the PAST day of Abib 14, and on Abib 15 when the sacrifice normally would have been EATEN-BURIED “That Night solemnly to be observed”. “This (wa)s That Night” in which Joseph stood before Pilate and asked for Jesus’ body “to bury as is the law-of-custom of the Jews”. Exodus 12 Leviticus 23 John 19:31-38-40-42.

But Joseph also knew that the body would “NOT HANG ALL NIGHT”— if any trust could be put in SCRIPTURE that says that “HE SHALL NOT HANG ALL NIGHT THAT SELFSAME WHOLE DAY BONE DAY, SO HE SHALL BE BURIED ON THAT SELFSAME WHOLE DAY BONE DAY IN THE DAYLIGHT FOLLOWING!
 

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@36:20 God’s Providence in Christ’s Burial JMA: <<Pilate not even has received word from the soldiers whether Jesus was alive or dead>>

What is so strange about that? Does that say it was Crucifixion day still, fast nearing its end, and that the body had to have been buried before day’s end with sunset? Nonsense. JMA told us how long crucified could survive on the cross, two to three days, he said. So whether Pilate has received word from the soldiers whether Jesus was alive or dead is a groundless meaningless supposition proving nothing about nothing, e.g., that Joseph had to hurry to get the body in the tomb before the day was over. .

So, just because it is JMA who is worried over the day that allegedly was running out, it is JMA who pretends it was Joseph who was worried because the day – according to JMA – was running out.
 

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At 10:30 JMA God’s Providence in Christ’s Burial <He was on the cross for six hours>. Luke says He was finished buried “mid-afternoon as the Sabbath of the week was nearing” (Friday “late afternoon”). JMA states emphatically <He was on the cross for six hours> viz., not a minute after “the ninth hour” on Friday!

So WHEN was his body removed? When and how was His Body “prepared” and when and how was Jesus buried, <that day the Preparation>, still?

JMA BLUFFS with trying to prove John 19:31 is the immediate continuation of “That Selfsame Day” Jesus DIED ON, and is the immediate continuation of verse 30!

With that JMA BLUFFED when (@6:40) he <<referred to all four Gospels>>. And instead JMA IGNORED all three the other Gospels. He does not refer to Mark 15:41,42 or Matthew 27:54-56 or LUKE in 23:47-49!

And JMA ignores and discards Matthew in 27:51-53 AND THE IMPACT AND THE CONSEQUENCES the catastrophic event had. Or was it not such a “GREAT earthquake” and “THICK darkness” it “was felt”—painfully as the darkness in Egypt at the “Passover of Yahweh” then?


REGARDLESS the Law and the Prophets who spoke “concerning the Christ”, “concerning .. THAT SELFSAME BONE-ESSENTIAL DAY” of “THREE DAYS IMPENITRABLY SOLID DARKNESS” of Jesus’ Last Passover Suffering “ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES” the Passover of Yahweh Scriptures, “EATEN IN THAT NIGHT after .. and the daylight following THAT WHICH REMAINED was BURNED with fire!”


NO SCRIPTURE BUT TRADITION gets <accomplished exactly .. to the day> according to JMA, and CORRUPTION is <fulfilled perfectly .. to the minute> by JMA! (@5:46; 6:00)

So what are you trying to prove?

Jesus died c. 3 pm was taken down and lain in Joseph of Arimatheas' tomb, not buried. Early sunday the women came to anoint the body.

The term "even" in two of the passages refer to the time before the first three stars appeared in the sky which started the next day. Typically this was the time from 3-6 PM. I don't know what MCCauthur preached, but jesus spent three days in the tomb, six hours on the cross and removed before teh Sabbath began which would be around 6:30-7PM
 
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@38:00 God’s Providence in Christ’s Burial JMA: <<Joseph isn’t hurrying because... but rather, he..>> Joseph, according to JMA, is hurrying, because <<..he is moving to, on God’s time, get Jesus in the grave on Friday because He, Jesus, has to be there three days>>.

First. Joseph did not and needed not to hurry. That’s another Roman Catholic, false, tradition.

Next. Jesus did not have to and never did say that <<He had to be there in the grave, three days>>. That’s not even a Roman Catholic, false, tradition; that’s JMA’s, false, story.

Then thirdly and more important, It for nobody is an issue that Joseph <<had to get Jesus in the grave on God’s time on Friday>> “the Preparation which is the Fore-Sabbath”— Luke 23:54-56 and John 19:41,42 are more than enough to establish that, an indisputable point of historic fact.

The only point of difference between the general catholic church claim and Gospel truth, is, A:- WHAT TIME in all four Gospels ON “that day the Preparation”, “IT HAD BEEN”, and FOR WHAT it had been that “Joseph had come there”; and B:- WHAT TIME in all four Gospels ON “that day the Preparation”, “IT HAD BEEN”, and FROM WHAT it had been that “Joseph had LEFT there and gone home”.

And the FULL answer to both questions is – and here people introduce their disputes – FOR and FROM the BURIAL of Jesus; NOT from and for, or, for and from, Jesus' Crucifixion!
 
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@42:00-04 God’s Providence in Christ’s Burial JMA: <<verse 39 … verse 38 just to set the stage>>

@44:45 <<so that takes us back to Mark fifteen, and… together now the lay Jesus in the tomb, the spices are placed on Him,>>

Nicodemus is mentioned in John only. It is impermissible to read on from Mark 15 as if Joseph and Nicodemus – <together now> in fact –, placed the body in the tomb IMMEDIATELY, that is, directly after John 19:39 where it tells of the ongoing preparations of the body made for the actual interment – placement – of the body, nine and more hours LATER! (“mid-afternoon” – ‘epephohsken’ Luke 23:54). So Nicodemus’ new birth <<between John 3 and 19>> does not does not from John 19:39 <<take us back to Mark fifteen>>. Tricks like this only set you up for falling into the pit you dug for others.

And JMA for sure is going to land on the very bottom of his own pit – in fact is already shouting up from there for help which will never turn up however.
 
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@45:15-45:37 God’s Providence in Christ’s Burial JMA: <<they wanted to protect his body .. this was the most trusting, loving, careful, honourable Burial the two men could offer One they loved. But behind it was this, God was moving to be sure He was in the ground, Friday, before sunset.>>

Again, Who disputes this? No one! But the best, the only way, for whoever like JMA and the universal Church of Christ, to NOT answer the crux of the Real issue-of-Faith, is to beat around and about the bush PRETENDING there is no life-threatening danger lurking in the heart and centre of the Faith. JMA just goes on and on hammering on his hollow drum of urgency and fear for an ENDING day, creating a soul-devouring haste due to the shortness of time between <3PM> and <right then .. before the end of Friday>-- REFUSING to hear the four Gospels’ full blast of the shofar as one announcement, of the START of the passover “High-Day- of-sabbath” : “EVENING COME ALREADY”, and “That Selfsame Whole Day Bone-Essential-Day” in the Providence and Eternal Purpose of God in Christ FORETOLD, FOR, that very BURIAL of the Passover Lamb of God, AT HIS DISPOSAL, all the twelve hours a night beginning “At That First Night”, plus all the twelve hours in a day following BEFORE, ENDING of “That Day” of Scripture, in that year of our Lord’s Death, Burial and Resurrection, on “the Preparation”, “which is the Fore-Sabbath” of the Jews—‘Friday’.

Don’t worry Professor, every detail happened exactly to Prophesy, Promise, Providence and Eternal Purpose of God Eternal. Joseph didn’t worry, why should we?
 
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@45:55-57 God’s Providence in Christ’s Burial JMA: <<and He would be there, three days, in the heart of the earth.>> @47:20-33 <<and now He was buried, in a rich man’s grave, and he would be there, three days.>>

JMA presupposes and says so much, that <right then .. Friday, before sunset>>, after Jesus had been crucified and had died, <<on the Preparation Friday ... He now was buried, He was in the ground, Friday, before sunset>>:- the same day, Friday, which, according to JMA, Jesus was also crucified and had died. Which makes the ‘three days’, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday on which day JMA says Jesus rose from the dead.

JMA’ ‘proving’ the same women the same day one circumstantial variant in distance, still the same EVENTS OF CRUCIFIXION, DEATH, AND, BURIAL BEFORE SUNSET THAT FRIDAY BEFORE IT WAS OVER... @47:00-49 <<The opening verse confirms the Friday Burial the Preparation Day verse 42 the day before the Sabbath. Verse 47 and closes out Mark’s record in this chapter Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses were looking on to see where He was laid. They were following Joseph of Arimathea – remember they were standing at the cross and then they backed off and they were farther away. Luke had Joanna and some others. The disciples were scattered but the women were there, where’s Peter … the rest … they were gone, but the women were there.>> JMA’s ‘proof’ it was the same DAY the same women the same one circumstance, the same EVENT-OF-CRUCIFIXION-DEATH-BURIAL, BEFORE SUNSET THAT FRIDAY BEFORE IT WAS OVER!


JMA’s trademark strategy. Divert attention to irrelevant data and so MAKE bygone and pertinent, ONE piece of perverted parsing. It’s delusion, corruption of the text, twisting of the facts, mangling, mongrelising the beauty of honesty and innocence, abusing and raping of virgin truth.


ALL through a scholar’s improvement on Mark 15:42. Professor John MacArthur:- Quote@22:30-40 Verse 42 of Mark 15, When evening had already come… which means it’s in the afternoon… because it was the Preparation Day… Again it tells us that this is Friday, that is the Day before the Sabbath.QuoteEnd
 
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@47:49 to 49:44 God’s Providence in Christ’s Burial JMA: <<Luke chapter 23 gives us the next important picture… verse 54 Again… Luke, verse 54 it was the Preparation Day which was Friday and the Sabbath was about to begin. Now the women who had come with Him out of Galilea, followed, saw to the tomb and how his body was laid. They were watching as we read in Mark. Then they returned to their homes and prepared spices and perfumes. And on the Sabbath they rested according to the Commandment. So He’s in the grave on Friday. On Sabbath Saturday they rest, they will not be outdone by strangers.>>

Which <<strangers>>?

<<They will have their own expressions of love by spending the last hours of Friday mixing spices to bring back to the tomb not on the Sabbath ‘cause they couldn’t take the journey, but on Sunday the First Day. So chapter 24 begins that way, On the First Day of the week they had early gone they came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared. They rested, on the Sabbath, they were obedient to God’s Word, they honoured the Sabbath this is by the way the last absolute legitimate Sabbath. From now on we don’t worship on Saturday we worship on Sunday the Day He blessed >>

NOTHING to do with on which day of the week Jesus was buried and crucified!

@49:45 JMA:- <<So we see the action of loving saints added to the actions of indifferent soldiers all demonstrating the action of God providentially as He has his Son buried on Friday!>>

WHO denied? I want to know when JMA says when the Son of God our Passover was killed or rather gave his Life a Ransom for many?

Because that would have given a different ending to JMA’s study sermon. It would have made John MacArthur close with Matthew 27:62 ALL THE WAY TO 28:1-4 and make him NOT OMIT THESE VERSES.

Why instead closes JMA with reference only to <<the hateful Jewish leaders and their cowardly actions of denial of the Christ and his Resurrection? Why does JMA conspicuously – and so exactly –, exclude the Providence of God recorded in Matthew 27 and 28 in the actions of his faithful messenger, “the angel of the Lord explaining to the women", the circumstantial evidences of Jesus' Resurrection and the <only legitimate> DAY OF RESURRECTION the only LEGITIMATE Sabbath in the Providence of the Almighty God through Jesus Christ our Saviour?

@49:50 JMA:- <<And that brings us to the third group that played a role in this burial, the indifferent soldiers, the loving disciples and then Divine Providence in the actions of the hateful spiritual leaders. Then let’s go back to from where we started reading Scripture Matthew chapter 27. That will wrap it up. God’s Providence in Christ’s Burial

@50:00 JMA: <<Matthew chapter 27 sixty two is the verse

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62Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, 63Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again. 64Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first. 65 Pilate said unto them, Ye have a watch: go your way, make [it] as sure as ye can. 66So they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch.

FINIS
 
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JMA https://www.gty.org/library/sermons-library/81-110 @5.30 John 19:30 read as if at same time the Jews asked Pilate the bodies to be removed!

GE:

This is FRAUD in idolatrous worship of SUNDAY!

KJ John 19:31 <bodies might not remain on the sabbath, for that sabbath day was a high day>
31 “The Jews then,
31 Οἱ οὖν Ἰουδαῖοι,
because / since
ἐπεὶ

(the) Preparation (Sixth Day)
Παρασκευὴ

(it) was / had begun,
ἦν,

so that
ἵνα

might not remain
μὴ μείνῃ

on the cross (of each of)
ἐπὶ τοῦ σταυροῦ

the bodies
τὰ σώματα

on the = on That sabbath (Day)
ἐν τῷ σαββάτῳ (Dative of relativity, interest or reference)

because / since (it) was
ἦν γὰρ

great
μεγάλη

the day of That (Day) of sabbath” [= the relative “Preparation” of interest / referred / inferred / referenced with the DATIVE “That Selfsame Day” cf. Luke 23:54 KJV.]
ἡ ἡμέρα ἐκείνου τοῦ σαββάτου

[which was / had begun - ἦν, cf. Mark 15:42 Luke 23:50 Matthew 27:57 “WHEN .. JOSEPH came there”, which was at least four hours after Jesus had died 3PM the day BEFORE—‘Thursday’ “the Preparation OF THE PASSOVER” John 19:14.]

he’s not an apostle he has no authority
 

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