Tares Reveal Themselves by what they DON’T Say...And They Are With us Here .How to Identify Them...

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justbyfaith

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Amazing ....almost everything he says is a Lie....and we have sparred long enough for him to KNOW that they are lies......
I might refute some of these obvious lies later on, but don’ t hold your breath....it’s been done 50 times or so already..... I got better things to do —- my Spice Rack needs rearranging.....

Actually the opposite is true....I have refuted @Blood Bought 1953 time and time again; while all he can do is resort to ad hominem attacks for the most part. He also will appeal to what popular Christianity teaches as if that were authoritative, instead of quoting or referencing the word of the Lord.

I have been refuting his statements with the word of God for what seems like eons...because this conversation has come with much persecution being leveled against me by him.
 
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If born again, it is part of our new heart and mind to do God's will, even though we fail continually as Paul said.

Yes we are going to sin and yes we will be forgiven.
But none of this is about being a homosexual, child molester for your entire life. You cannot repent what you will keep doing.
By this reasoning homosexuals are in heaven. Child molesters will be in heaven. Cannibals will be in heaven.
What will heaven be like with every type of evildoers being there? If heaven is for the evil, what is hell for? And wouldn't the good people of Christianity feel uncomfortable with heaven over run with evil? Would God feel comfortable with that? Would He have to move out?
 

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Amazing ....almost everything he says is a Lie....and we have sparred long enough for him to KNOW that they are lies......
I might refute some of these obvious lies later on, but don’ t hold your breath....it’s been done 50 times or so already..... I got better things to do —- my Spice Rack needs rearranging.....


But remember, repentance does not have to be a verbal pronouncement. It can come from the heart without saying a word.
 

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not necessarily. Cults stand by faith.
No, they do not stand by faith. If their doctrine isn't sound, and if they depart from sound doctrine on essential issues, they are not saved; so they do not stand by faith.
 

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They stand by the faith of what they believe. If the faith is erroneous they fall.
"fall". they do not stand by faith because they fall over the fact that their faith is erroneous.

Therefore your previous contention is false; and Romans 11:20-22 is about born again believers.
 

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Now there are people on this form that have been molested by straight people and homosexual people. Ask them. They know the feeling of evil that are in these people. And what this new denomination believe is that these people can do this their whole life and as long as they believe in Christ they will be in heaven with you and the people they molested. There are some of them that do not even believe they need to repent or that repenting does not obligate them to change from their evil lifestyle. That homosexuals that marry, sign a contract, and vow to sin the rest of their lives will go to heaven.

Satan's intent is to normalize all this. Not to condemn it, but to tolerate it, so it is ok for them to be around your children and grandchildren. Teachers, coaches, scout masters...etc.
 

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It is more widespread, this new denomination, than what you may think. Again this is a list of churches that support LGBTQ and marry them and some support abortion.
List of Christian denominations affirming LGBT - Wikipedia
And in one form or another they are here on this forum.
It is an attack on Christian morals.
The subtle snake...Oh you don't want to condemn homosexually as a sin, God has forgiven them and they are going to heaven too.
 

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Sounds just like me....I don’t live a lifestyle Of sin.....why would you think otherwise? When you point-your finger at me , you have three pointing back at yourself!
See how OSASers accuse others of exactly what they do constantly! Judge others!
 

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What are the dangers of this new denomination.
1. It undermines Christian morals.
2. It undermines Christian cultures.
3. In the United States, some of these are in with the counter cultures groups that want to destroy everything that the United States stands for.
4. It can be appealing for some young Christians and new Christians that have sinful lifestyles but want to be accepted in Christian churches and communities. This new denomination preaches they can maintain those sinful lifestyle and still be Christians and make it to heaven. Satan's gateway. Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. But this is not what this new denomination preaches...They preach that any lifestyle leads to heaven as long as you believe in Christ...morality is an option.
5. The desire to shutdown the Christian voice, even invalidate parts of the Bible. People should only quote the scriptures they support and scriptures they believe forgives sinful lifestyles. If you quote scriptures about morality and those scriptures that speak against sin and immorality, they try to label you as condemning, mean, unforgiving!...when it is biblical scriptures you are quoting. And the technic has become the whole whining thing...Oh you offend me! You should not preach morality, it hurts peoples feelings! I am hurt! I am persecuted! I am so sad that you pointed out sin! I have been rejected! I am just going to leave and go eat worms!

They can believe in Christ, but you cannot repent a sinful lifestyle that you continue. They will arrive on Judgment Day as evildoers and Christ will judge them according.
Matthew 7:22-23
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’


IS THERE A NEW DENOMINATION FORMING? Yep, it is here!
 

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So, I guess that means that you don't subscribe to @Behold's doctrine that you don't have to continue in the faith to be saved.

Listen deceiver, i dont "teach" that you should not try to continue in faith..
What i teach is that God has accepted your FAITH, which is why a person is Born Again. = "Justification BY Faith".= ONCE.
So, this PROOF that He accepted your Faith, ONCE, to SAVE YOU< is the only Faith that mattered, regarding Eternal life.

We dont continue to do anything to be saved, after God has SAVED US.

Salvation is not "if i do this, God keeps me".....which is what legalists like you and ferris bueller teach as the Devil's gospel.
Listen....
Salvation is : "God SAVED ME, and GOD keeps me ONLY because of What Jesus has accomplished for me, 2000 yrs ago, that is APPLIED TO ME".
= Blood Atonement

Understand this, Legalist?
No you dont., as if you and ferris bueller understood it, you would not try to be resisting Grace by teaching "I keep myself saved".
 

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If it Talks like a Tare, and if it Walks like a Tare.....
Most likely, you are a Tare.....
“ You doth protesteth too much” me thinks......

There is hope for Tares.....pray to God that He would show you how to actually BELIEVE the Gospel Of Grace found in 1Cor:1-4.... Especially that first part where Paul says that “ Jesus died for your sins” ......THAT is your problem .....If you BELIEVED it , the Proof would be that you REST in that Truth instead of Adding to the Gospel with “ Lucky Repentance”...... that Perverted Doctrine That says you either Repent of all your sins before you die or you wind up in Hell.....It’s a False Addition to Paul’s Gospel , and Paul clearly states in the Book Of Galatians That those who teach Gospel Additions( no matter how well they “ tickle your ears” ) are “ ACCURSED!”
Some Tares are simply Agents Of Satan , planted in churches to ruin them , like they did in Paul’s Day ( “all the churches in Asia have deserted me,” he lamented) ......They can’t be helped

Other Tares just got hood- winked by Confused, Legalistic Jack- Ass Preachers that had been mislead by other “self- called” Preachers ,( as opposed to “God-Sent” Preachers ) like I suspect some in here are. They need to Repent Of their Legalistic, Stiff-Necked ways and ask God to open their eyes so that they can follow God’s command to REST in the Gospel Of “ Jesus Saves—- Plus NOTHING! Time is running out for some of you.....

There is no hope for the tares for they are the true children of the devil by way of Cain.
1Jn_3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
Jud_1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
 

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I was told when I was 17 that if one was born again, they would not sin. After trying to be sinless for a time, I realized that I couldn't do it. I decided to go back to my hedonistic lifestyle and enjoy life as much as I could. Though I never stopped believing John 3:16. I wasn't able to.
One is born-again of the Spirit of incorruptible material...this means sin comes from somewhere else. Teachers need to be prepared by God so they don't screw people's lives up.
Luke 9:23 talks about a process of sanctifying one's soul. The teaching of instant sanctification is one of the heresies in the church and is responsible for many of the scandals.
 
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