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You know, the more I learn, the less I’m inclined to be dogmatic on certain issues. Like this one, for instance.
I don’t believe the 1000 to be referring to a literal time, simply because of the book its within and how numbers are primarily used in that book. But as to how Christ will choose to display his Kingdom and reign once he returns? I’m not sure it’s entirely within our power to grasp. We argue, we ponder, and we each take our stances based on scripture. And it’s entirely possible that one ‘school’ of thought may be correct and all others wrong. But I cannot help but remember how, when Jesus came the first time, despite all the biblical references that seemingly pointed to everything he did ‘clearly’, he confounded everyone. Back then they had conflicting verses speaking of a suffering servant and a conquering King. Now we have those pointing to passages that seem to speak of the Kingdom being now, but we also have others arguing for texts that seem to show a time that is ‘better’ than what we have now, but still not eternity.
I’m not done wrestling with these things, I don’t believe we ought to, just because they are difficult. I had thought I was done, but now...not so sure, and not willing to be dogmatic.
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Let me answer your question. Just like the Jews believed when their messiah would come he would set up an earthly kingdom. They even asked Christ when the kingdom would come. They were looking for a literal kingdom. Christ told them the kingdom does not come through observation but the kingdom was within us. The kingdom is the body of believers in Christ. It is the Church. When Christ returns, he returns with his Church which is the kingdom. He does rule the nations with the saints for a thousand years. At the end of the thousand years the end will come and judgment will be set. And when that is over and we go to the new Heaven and earth Christ will give them kingdom to the Father. Submitting himself unto the Father so that it is only God that is worshipped. Paul explains this very well in a letter written unto the Corinthians.
As for it being an everlasting kingdom it is. It is the church. The Lord took Abraham into a high mountain and showed him a land and in that land was a great city whose builder and maker was God. The Lord told Abraham the unto him he would give him and his seed this land and great city as an everlasting possession. Paul also explains the seed to be Christ. Abraham not having understood what he had been told didn’t realize what he had been shown was a heavenly country. So Abraham travel throughout the area his entire life looking for it. Even today the Jews proclaim an earthly land and city. Abraham did not travel in the promised land but only in the land where he received the promise. The Lord also told Abraham that he would come into possession of the land and city as an everlasting possession. We know that this Heaven and earth will be utterly destroyed. Read what is written in Corinthians and also Hebrews. Naomi25 always remember this. Once you have received Christ as your savor you no longer have to depend on man to give you understanding. If you will ask the Lord for understanding he will give it to you.
Let me answer your question. Just like the Jews believed when their messiah would come he would set up an earthly kingdom. They even asked Christ when the kingdom would come. They were looking for a literal kingdom. Christ told them the kingdom does not come through observation but the kingdom was within us. The kingdom is the body of believers in Christ. It is the Church. When Christ returns, he returns with his Church which is the kingdom. He does rule the nations with the saints for a thousand years. At the end of the thousand years the end will come and judgment will be set. And when that is over and we go to the new Heaven and earth Christ will give them kingdom to the Father. Submitting himself unto the Father so that it is only God that is worshipped. Paul explains this very well in a letter written unto the Corinthians.
As for it being an everlasting kingdom it is. It is the church. The Lord took Abraham into a high mountain and showed him a land and in that land was a great city whose builder and maker was God. The Lord told Abraham the unto him he would give him and his seed this land and great city as an everlasting possession. Paul also explains the seed to be Christ. Abraham not having understood what he had been told didn’t realize what he had been shown was a heavenly country. So Abraham travel throughout the area his entire life looking for it. Even today the Jews proclaim an earthly land and city. Abraham did not travel in the promised land but only in the land where he received the promise. The Lord also told Abraham that he would come into possession of the land and city as an everlasting possession. We know that this Heaven and earth will be utterly destroyed. Read what is written in Corinthians and also Hebrews. Naomi25 always remember this. Once you have received Christ as your savor you no longer have to depend on man to give you understanding. If you will ask the Lord for understanding he will give it to you.
Eternally Grateful
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The millennial kingdom is for 1000 years, it is a time when messiah rules with a rod of iron and Satan is bound for 1000 years
at the end of the thousand years, Satan is released, another rebellion is created as people follow Satan, that rebellion is crushed, this heaven and earth is destroyed, and a new heaven and earth is created in its place. With new jerusalem
We should not question why God does things, we should just take him at his word and when he says it will come, believe it
at the end of the thousand years, Satan is released, another rebellion is created as people follow Satan, that rebellion is crushed, this heaven and earth is destroyed, and a new heaven and earth is created in its place. With new jerusalem
We should not question why God does things, we should just take him at his word and when he says it will come, believe it
Eternally Grateful
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As I look at the world and see the chaos, sin and deplorable situation, and see how bad it is and co to use to be
do I think Jesus rules with a rod of iron and Satan is bound? Not for a second, if this is Jesus ruling then Jesus is not a very good ruler he must have lost his rod of iron
Lk 1:32-33
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Randy Kluth
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It's called the Millennial Kingdom not because it isn't part of God's eternal Kingdom, but only because it represents a final period of mortal humanity after Christ's Coming.
the church is the new heaven
The heavenly Jerusalem our mother
Holy mother church gal 4
Eternally Grateful
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Randy Kluth
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I explained that it is. If you don't want to respond to my explanation, you're wasting your time repeating yourself.
This does not show a contradiction of a 1,000 year reign.
The 1,000 years....ENDS Jesus "reign OVER MORTAL MEN"....Jesus' "reign OVER Converted men, (IMMORTAL), shall continue For Ever.
The New Jerusalem is A holy city, without corruption, and seat of Government, of a holy king (the Lord), where His holy Throne is Established.
Did you not READ?
His Kingdom has NO ENDING.
The occupants who are MOTALS on Earth, have an ENDING after 1,000 years.
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