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Completely not true Christina. Catholics, and some of your Protestant brethren, honor Mary for whom she is; The mother of God who is full of grace and blessed among women (Luke 1). We do not worship her and to call her the "Satanic queen of heaven" is concerning. Do you honor her?

Matthew 18:17

Who are your teachers? I found a passage in Scripture that The Church speaks Gods Truth (1 Timothy 3:15). Is there a passage in Scripture that says YOU speak Gods truth? I also found a passage that warns me of men like you; 2 Peter 3:16. Mary

I don't reject the Truth. I just reject YOUR truth. Thanks for your time Keiw. Mary

I think it is, but we are debating the history of the teaching of the Trinity......Not if the teaching is dogma. I wonder if debating the history of the teaching is banned? :IDK: None the less.........I can't figure out why talking about the oldest teaching of Christianity would be banned...

Oh WOW.....I didn't know all of this "history". o_O Teach me more!! PLEASE? on pins and needles....Mary

Really? I can't seem to find that on page 299. Can you provide a link to that? I found this: “The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the OT. In the NT the oldest evidence is in the Pauline epistles, especially 2 Cor 13:13, 14 and 1 Cor 12:4-6)” (New Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume 14...

I think you are confusing the FACT that The Church taught and talked about the Trinity BEFORE 381AD when it was officially put into doctrine by The Church. But I get the gist of your argument. Mary

Well, I was being serious and wanted a serious answer, but I can see you are not being serious so thank you for your time.

Brakelite, I have never said that there were not any sabbath keeping churches in early Christianity. Historically we know there was, but a majority were not. The Church, via Church Councils, addressed that issue. But you already know that. Also, you said, "here are the footnotes of just one...

Responded too does not = answered

Sabbatarians challenge from Scripture: John 20:1 Acts 20:7 1 Corinthians 16:2 Revelation 1:10 Sabbatarians ignore (twist) Scripture. Sabbatarians challenge from Christian history: The Didache The Epistle of Barnabas Ignatius of Antioch Justin Martyr Sabbatarians ignore the writings of the...

7 Refers to testifying about the true humanity of Christ and His crucifixion. The three witnesses affirm the significance of Christ’s atoning death, which the secessionists apparently denied. In the Bible, two or three witnesses are required to validate testimony (e.g., Deut 17:6; 19:15; Matt...

One cannot always believe words from others. Whose words are you relying on Keiw to call someone else wrong?

Hey RedFan, Thanks for challenging me to think and do research. Here are some Church Fathers BEFORE Tertullian referencing the Holy Spirit and alluding to the Trinity: Justin Martyr "We will prove that we worship him reasonably; for we have learned that he is the Son of the true God himself...

I agree Keiw: One cannot always believe words from others. Who are the "others" you believe? And why do your men's teachings (Donald) trump the teachings of Tertullian? "Considering the possibility of God being a trinity"? confused He wasn't considering the possibility; he flat out said it in...

Your sarcasm aside I, unlike you, didn't obtain my "Celtic church" history from an anti-Catholic historian to learn the real history of the "Celtic church". I researched multiple, reliable and unbiased historians. You should try it sometime and put your sarcasm and degrading quips in the trash...

Thanks Redfan, I learned something thanks to you....You are right about the addition/change/clarification from Nicaea to Constantinople. It does not change the FACT that The Church has always taught the Trinity. So I am adding @Keiw to our conversation so that they can see that technically I...

Hey Brakelite, This post about the Celtic church and your theory that they did not submit to papal authority etc got me doing a lot of research the last several weeks. I started off with the book you mentioned by d'Aubigne's. There was no or very scant evidence in it that supports what you...

Hey Keiw, Did you look at the link I provided? If you had, you would see that you are wrong and that the Apostolic Fathers did speak of the Trinity. As a matter of FACT an Apostolic Father used the word Trinity in 181AD. If you knew your Christian history, you would know that. The Nicaean...