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  1. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    Didn’t say God was useless, but talking about the existence of God is. We are talking about something completely outside of space and time. Neither an atheist or a Christian can win in that type of argument. The Christian can’t prove God and the atheist cannot disprove God. However, the atheist...
  2. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    I truly think that it is Christians who are blind to the evidence that contradicts their beliefs. This is evident in the Bill Nye vs Ken Ham debate where Ken said nothing would change his mind about the existence of God whereas Bill Nye said he would only need a simple shred of evidence. I have...
  3. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    The ontological argument for God by Anselm is deeply flawed because it is tautological. It’s basically saying, God exists so God exists. It only works for a Christian who already believes in a God by providing a rational basis for their belief. God exists only if you accept the premise that he...
  4. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    If God could be defined, then that would make God exist within space and time. I am not the one defining God, you guys define God and I am simply pointing out how you contradict yourselves. You say God is the is, God is that…and then you turn around and say God is beyond space and time. One guy...
  5. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    The main difference between Christians and atheists is this: a Christian would never change his mind, an atheist would. This is evident in the debate between Bill Nye and Ken Ham when asked the question of what would be needed to change their mind. Bill’s response: evidence Ken’s response: no
  6. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    I read your thread actually and despite how much you think it’s the final nail in the coffin for atheism, it’s not. You started the thread with already shifting responsibility from yourself by saying you are not required to prove that God exists. You are also misusing the argument fallacy of...
  7. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    I thought that the devil was responsible for division. Why would Jesus say he would divide? Revelation gets brought up in every time period. The world is always coming to an end for Christians, essentially. And if it isn’t, it will soon. Of course there is no specific date because just like...
  8. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    You misunderstood, it was under the context of people claiming there is a god without actually seeing one. Now to your claim of seeing God, so have many others who have taken strong hallucinogens. The problem now is that you are turning God into a subjective experience that’s very private...
  9. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    Dark matter would also be able to be tested with consistent results, just like gravity. God can’t be tested. Prayer is inconsistent at testing for God’s existence, so that already wouldn’t count.
  10. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    Consider the opposite possibility that atheists could be correct and theists wrong after death as well. Most nihilists assert that there is no god, without evidence either. I don’t see the issue with me accepting a god once I have the evidence of one. I have no issue with the possibility of a...
  11. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    Of course the deficit is mine regarding evidence. How else to take responsibility off yourself for failing to provide evidence? It’s a cheap victory. What if I told you the exact same thing about my invisible dragon in my garage that you need to be born of since it exists on a higher plane than...
  12. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    False. Catholics do see Protestants as heretics because Protestants cut out the middle man aka the Pope is traced all the way back to Peter who was given authority by Jesus according to Catholics. By that same token, Protestants see Catholics as heretics for worshipping saints and statues...
  13. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    Yes and no. I said there is no evidence of a god and if there was…well then it wouldn’t be God because by definition God is outside of space and time, making God an unfalsifiable claim forever. If science actually found evidence of a God, believers would deny it…
  14. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    Just to be clear, I never said there is no God. I said there is no evidence of one. I ask for evidence and what do I get? The run-around. “Your criteria for evidence is flawed” “God doesn’t have to prove himself” “I cannot prove God exists” If I ask you to show me proof of a tree, you can...
  15. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    “The Catholic Church was the first of this and that”…until I introduce a Protestant. They will only unite against an atheist, but when left alone…they’re heretics to one another. It’s funny how religions cause so much division between one another and within. Have you ever seen atheists argue...
  16. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    A step by step guide to becoming an atheist: 1. Think about any religion other than your own 2. Think about three reasons that you don’t believe that religion to be true 3. Apply those reasons to your own religion
  17. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    “As a Christian, I can’t prove it to you. The Bible is the word of God, I admit that’s where I start from.” Problem is, all of these people who ultimately say they cannot prove God, talk as if there is evidence and proof, they outright claim there is evidence. Why does it always boil down to, “I...
  18. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    I meant that the black cat isn’t there, not the room itself.
  19. Romanov2488

    Why belief in a god is an unfalsifiable claim that serves no purpose

    Moving the goal posts and strawmanning. I never said there was no room, and I said there is no cat because those claiming to have found it have failed to provide the evidence for it. You failing to provide evidence of the black cat does not mean that I am correct and that you are wrong, that’s a...