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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear Hobie, The 1Cor 15:51-54 and 1Thes 4:13-18 scriptures are not teaching about the second coming of Christ when He spiritually converts an Elect believer. Those verses are teaching about the bodily resurrection from the grave which happens at the literal end of this age. The other...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear AuntyJane, You said: I used to believe my mainstream church’s beliefs too, until it dawned on me that most of what they had as their foundational beliefs, did not originate from Scripture, but from the Roman Catholic church.....a corrupt counterfeit created by the devil......nothing taught...
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    The mark of the Man/beast

    Dear Stewardofthemystery, I agree with your statement. Satan masquerades as Christ and copies Him. Satan --> man of sin/minister of Satan/Seven Headed Beast with Ten horns and Ten crowns --> indwelt by the spirit of anti-Christ Christ --> child of God/First Fruits/heirs/saints --> indwelt by...
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    The mark of the Man/beast

    Dear Stewardofthemystery, The Hebrew gematria is not a part of God's Word and should not be used to understand the meanings of the numbers used in scripture. This is how Paul says to understand Christ's spirit words: 1Cor 2:13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear Aunty Jane, I used to have a similar understanding of God's Word as most of the people on this forum have. I even taught end-time prophecy in the last church I attended. My understanding of end-time prophecy back then was in-line with the mainstream church teachings (like yours). But on...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    CONTINUED FROM THE PREVIOUS POST... As for this verse that you quoted: Mat 24:3 As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming,and of the end of the age?” The events being...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear Aunty Jane, The New Covenant teachings are spiritual and the spirit words that Christ uses carry meaning that are different than what mankind wisdom teaches. 1Cor 2:13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear Hobie, Christ will cause EVERYONE to repent of their "works" and turn to Him. No one will be lost. 2Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to...
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    The mark of the Man/beast

    Dear Stewardofthemystery, I read your posts and I agree with a good part of what you presented. It adds a little to what I presently believe. Here is my summarized understanding: Seven Headed Beast with Ten Horns (as in the beginning of Rev 17): This beast represents man. Seven Headed Beast...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear Hobie, Your understanding is not supported by the scriptures I posted. The only people who "overcome" are the Elect and they "overcome" only because Christ causes it to happen. Christ causes it to happen when He returns. If a believer dies before Christ comes a second time to them, then...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear Hobie, All new believers will be deceived and enter the apostate church. The apostasy began shortly after Paul death and is not some future "end-time" event. The spirit of anti-Christ entered the world before the Apostle John died. He even clearly said that the "last days" were already...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Dear Ritajanice, I want to leave you with three scriptures to consider: Jer 33:3 ‘Call to Me, and I will answer you, and show you great and mighty things, which you do not know.’ 1Sam 12:17 Is it not wheat harvest to day? I WILL CALL UNTO THE LORD, and he shall send thunder and RAIN; that ye...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Dear Ritajanice, Paul is talking about a person after they are converted - not after they have only received the Early Rain of the Spirit. Joe
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Dear Ritajanice, You said: Appear to us a second time? Heb 9:28 So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him. Christ appears to a person the first time "in the flesh"...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Dear Ritajanice, I agree with much of what you stated above. The issue between us is WHEN a person is "born again". Scripture says that there is a pathway that leads a person to their new birth and conversion. All the parables that begin with the phrase "the Kingdom of Heaven is like" are...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Dear Ritajanice, You said: Don’t agree, the Spirit will make there spirit Born Again....we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God....our spirit must be Born Again...has nothing to do with early rain of the Spirit, that is not how God says we are Born Again. Your statement is not supported...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Dear Ritajanice, You said: I believe truth is only given to us when we become Born Again , only the Holy Spirit by divine revelation can witness that truth to our hearts / spirit...when he testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children/ Born Again. Truth is given to us in TWO parts at two...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Dear Ritajanice, I have no power to force anyone to believe as I do. I merely do as God's Word commands and present the truth of what Christ teaches. It is SOLELY up to Christ if He will cause the person to accept it. Mankind has no say in the matter even though they think they do. There...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Dear Eternally Grateful, I never accused him of anything. I pointed out that the pathway to salvation goes through the apostate church. Everyone will experience it. To deny that truth is to deny the truth of God's Word. As for knowing what He believes, I do. I have had several discussions...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Dear Taken, Your foul language and insulting posts show your "denial". I have presented you with the truth of the New Covenant teachings of Christ and supported it with many verses of scripture. I can do nothing more. Since Christ has not made you receptive to His truth, I will move onto more...