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  1. GodsGrace

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    You might be interested in the following: Or maybe not... In other words, God is not a single, isolated person, as unitarian forms of theism like Islam hold; rather God is a plurality of persons, as the Christian doctrine of the Trinity affirms. On the unitarian view God is a person who does...
  2. GodsGrace

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    I'm kind of tired of this Mono. Sorry you came along so late. No such thing in Christianity outside of Trinitarianism. If you want to call that being judgemental...so be it. If you want to be defined as CHRISTian... then you MUST believe Jesus is God. If you believe Jesus is God,, then the...
  3. GodsGrace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    GP I used to be on a Forum where the above was possible. That was a few years ago. These forums have become rather contentious and I find that they are not edifying at all. I come here for fellowship due to where I live... I don't really like arguing and I find that sometimes I get so frustrated...
  4. GodsGrace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    I read all of the above GP. NO. I cannot accept incorrect doctrine. I'd like to wish you a joyous Christmas. May God bless you always. GG
  5. GodsGrace

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Oh. So write JEWISH under your avatar. Bye Wrangler
  6. GodsGrace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    Doesn't every Christian trust God? You're not understanding me. Listen carefully. I NEVER said that a person that believes OSAS is not in right standing with our Lord. This is what I said: It could lead a new Christian, or even an older one, to begin to live a life of sin that would, indeed...
  7. GodsGrace

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Wrangler,,, I thought you were pretty intelligent. Your ad hominum remarks cause me to do two things: 1. I wanted to post more since what you're talking about has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY or of CHRISTOLOGY being that your discussion comes hundreds of years AFTER the...
  8. GodsGrace

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Excuse me Wrangler... I NEVER said it didn't exist as an idea. YOU said it was believed by the Christian church of the time, which would be the CC. It was A HERETICAL IDEA that was NEVER accepted by the church. You can spin it how you want... but that's the history.
  9. GodsGrace

    DOES BELIEF THAT ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED MEAN WE CAN SIN?

    @mailmandan THIS is your reply to Luke 9:23? OK...not the correct answer, but I'll ask you this then: What does following Jesus mean? Sweet replies Dan. But what does it mean to ACT on the words of Jesus as Matthew 7:24-27 states? WHY is one a wise man and one is a foolish man? This is...
  10. GodsGrace

    DOES BELIEF THAT ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED MEAN WE CAN SIN?

    What is a nominal Christian? A person is either a Christian or they're not. If they're a nominal Christian,,,then they're a Christian that may not be very mature. If you mean IN NAME ONLY....that would have to be discussed and I don't have time to do that. Paul stated that we cannot be saved by...
  11. GodsGrace

    Earning Knowledge of God / Eternal Life

    What are the ends? This is the question. Is it to convince persons that they will be saved no matter what? Is this what the NT teaches.... or are there many ifs, caveats, and conditions to this life Jesus gives us? Did Jesus say that we are to dwell with Him and He with us? Or did He say we...
  12. GodsGrace

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Like I said. Posting the title of a book is NO PROOF at all. It just proves there are other heretics such as yourself roaming around calling themselves Christian. Find out what heretical means...since most don't know what it means.
  13. GodsGrace

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    You don't want to believe that Jesus is God? You want to believe some heretical belief? That is your right. Just don't state that arianism was accepted by the early church. It was always a controversy.... It was declared heretical by the church.
  14. GodsGrace

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    You think posting the title of a book proves something or other? Let's see: Maybe you posted a book by someone that agrees with you? What does that prove? As I've stated.... POST SOMETHING HISTORICAL FROM THE EARLY CHURCH. HISTORY OF THE EARLY CHURCH. Let me repeat: ARIANISM WAS NEVER PART OF...
  15. GodsGrace

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Excuse me SS Were ANY of the gospels written while Jesus was still living? Do you not know when John said IF THEY WERE OF US THEY WOULD NOT HAVE LEFT US.... Try 1 John 2:19 and then do a small study on WHY he made this statement.
  16. GodsGrace

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Uh no! The creeds are NOT scripture? Well, the Nicene Creed, to which you agreed to believe in posting Christian under your avatar... IS SCRIPTURE. Which of the following statements do you NOT agree with? And maybe you should remove the word Christian from below your avatar? The Nicene Creed...
  17. GodsGrace

    DOES BELIEF THAT ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED MEAN WE CAN SIN?

    @Eternally Grateful last of 4 pages These doctrines have been argued among Protestants for several centuries. Presently there are Christians who call themselves "3-point, "4-point, and 5-point Calvinists. Some denominations (e.g., many Baptists) could be classified as "1-point Calvinists...
  18. GodsGrace

    DOES BELIEF THAT ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED MEAN WE CAN SIN?

    @Eternally Grateful The Historical and "Scriptural Basis For Eternal Security The doctrine of eternal security is generally attributed to John Calvin, whose followers are called Calvinists or members of the Reformed tradition. But even Calvinists acknowledge that much of their doctrine...
  19. GodsGrace

    DOES BELIEF THAT ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED MEAN WE CAN SIN?

    @ElectedbyHim Now this "if is an "if and only if. The promise is that you will never fall and you will receive a rich welcome if and only if "you do these things. This rules out the possibility that you will never fall and you will receive a rich welcome without doing "these things. It must be...
  20. GodsGrace

    DOES BELIEF THAT ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED MEAN WE CAN SIN?

    Oh. This is sweet. Matthews seems much better: Why Eternal Security Is Not a Biblical Doctrine By Philip A. Matthews Eternal Security is the doctrine that simply states, "Once saved, always saved (OSAS). This doctrine teaches that once a person has been born again by trusting in Jesus as his...