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where is this verse that tells you this in the bible? How does the little horn of Daniel 7 and 8 play into your end time discussion?

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that there will be this mythical supernatural creature that everyone identifies as the "anti-Christ" and this fellow takes the world by intrigue, etc. Is the number of this fellow 666? If so,then he must be a "man" and not a supernatural fellow? Help...

I really don't want to get into this discussion because it has moved off of the topic a little, but let me ask you the following: The 4 and only 4 kingdoms that are identified as being called out of the sea by God are Babylon, Medes-Persia, Greece and Rome (although everyone agrees that "Rome"...

That is fine… but as I mentioned to you much earlier, there really is no need to continue this… we just have different interpretations.

Thanks for your comments, but I am comfortable with my interpretations, the details that I have already given you, how they tie into the rest of the relevant verses in Revelation as well as in both the New and Old Testament.

I believe I was more than clear that these are end time evangelists chosen by God to preach the Good News for 3.5 years before His return. There is nothing wrong reconciliation needed - unless one is committed to your theory. Again, there are many very different interpretations and views on one...

I don’t agree with your understanding of what I said… or how you have interpreted it. Example- never said the 144,000 are national Israel! But God will use the symbols of the 12 tribes and the 12,000 to get His point across. There is nothing wrong with having a very different interpretation...

I don’t believe I said or implied the things you say I said in my comments. But that is okay.

No problem… I think we are done here.

Thanks, but I am quite comfortable with my interpretation of the 144,000 at the time of the end. There is not much further support I could give you... I have been as detailed as I could possibly be. But I do see that you have developed a very strong opinion of the source of these 144,000 and...

I certainly agree with most of what you are saying! But I find the 144,000 are literal Jews at the end of time for a specific end time mission. But God is also giving us a vision through John of what will be … the 144,000 and the multitude… the 24 elders, etc., are future scenes of God’s...

Thanks for your thoughts......

Of course I understand what they represent. Look forward to hearing your interpretations.

Why don't you tell me what you believe they represent and why in these texts.

I hope you agree that in Revelation as well as in Daniel, there are verses that shift between the heavenly realm and the earthly realm. In this case, regarding the 144,000 we have both. From a literal point of view, we see in Revelation 7:3-4, "Do not harm the earth or the sea or the...

Part 2. Revelation 14:3-5 And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. 3 They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and no one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth...

Part 1. Revelation 14:1-2 1 Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder...

I believe there is enough biblical and historical information on this.... it cannot be any other. So, who do you think could possibly be the 4th kingdom? Rome was certainly the most dominate power after Greece. There are also perfectly symbolized as the iron kingdom. They conquered the entire...

The sealing of God’s servants in Revelation 7:4-8 strongly parallels the final plague in Exodus and finds echoes in other Old Testament passages. These connections highlight God’s consistent pattern of mercy and protection for His faithful. In the final plague of Exodus, God commanded the...

Matthew 24:14, Zechariah 8:23, Isaiah 66:19, Revelation 7:4-8, Romans 11:25-26... I think you might be able to fill in the blanks here...