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  1. PinSeeker

    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Because the Gospel was only revealed to the nation of Israel then; with the coming of Jesus, the Gospel was opened to all (Jew and Gentile). God allowed Satan the ability to "deceive the nations" ~ prevent the spread of the Gospel ~ in Old Testament times. Think of it terms of a "lesser...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    I think you’re missing half my point, Mr. E. Or, alternatively, you’re missing one of my two points. I don’t mean to argue, or sound antagonistic. To your question, I’ll just say that the physical, in and of itself, is good. Along with the rest of God’s creation, God, in Genesis 1, of course...
  3. PinSeeker

    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    I’ve heard a lot of different things in my day, but that’s the first I’ve heard of that position. Hm. Grace and peace to you. Well, from spreading to other nations besides Israel… I say it is. :) Well no, people are saved the same way, through faith, regardless of the time in which they...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Hmm well, of the flesh, meaning of man, which equates to having a sinful nature and therefore the natural proclivity toward sin and away from holiness. Right? But then again, not always, in Scripture; it does refer to the physical body… sometimes (i.e., John 1:14). Sure. But I think ~ and me...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    LOL! Never heard that before... Me? No. :) Hmmm... I guess to this, I would say there are two senses to understand the coming of NHNE: in the sense you are saying, and... in the sense that it comes down to us after Jesus's return and the final Judgment, with all in very short order. And...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Okay, I mean, points well taken. But... and this is just me... if you say you don't think you've studied this particular issue enough. and not understanding the Millennium itself, and can't argue very well for one position or another, then how can you say you're firmly Premillennial? Just...
  7. PinSeeker

    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Right, but that's not the only context that 'flesh' and/or 'of the flesh' is used in the Bible, and that gives some posters on here a hard time (though of course they don't think so). :) Grace and peace to you, Mr. E.
  8. PinSeeker

    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    I... see a lot of, um, creative :) posts/thoughts on this board from a number of posters concerning the soul, and the spirit, and hell, and the flesh (among other things). :) Regarding specifically what you state here, though, Jesus's physical body was certainly in the tomb three days and...
  9. PinSeeker

    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Okay, well, we disagree on that. Hm, well, the heart of the person is not literally in the center of his/her body... :) And when the Bible speaks of one's heart, the actual bodily organ we know as the heart is not what's in view. Grace and peace to you, David.
  10. PinSeeker

    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    His body was indeed in the tomb. Sorry; you weren't addressing me, but... :) Just... interjecting. Apologies. Grace and peace to you, David.
  11. PinSeeker

    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Hm. Interesting post. I see a lot of humility in it, which is... awesome; we don't see enough of that on this forum... :)... and I would even apply that to myself. :) So here's how I would answer you on this, Randy: Maybe the thing to do is to understand Christ's coming as to the church ~...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Agreed, and I would equate this coming back down 3 days after His crucifixion with Revelation 20:1-3. :) Grace and peace to you, Mr. E.
  13. PinSeeker

    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Actually, I'm not sure anyone here could even be labeled a partial preterist. I'll just say what I believe, and then people can either agree or disagree with it... I believe that at least most of John's prophecies are in the process of being fulfilled ~ which is to say neither some of them...
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    Does anyone want to compare Old Testament Prophecy to Revelation?

    Sure. I didn't assert "sleeping" as such, although I can see how you might get that idea. All I said (chuckles... as if it is some mere thing...) was that it was a dream ~ in this case a vision; in John's case actually a series of visions ~ which God has given several times in many ways in...
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    The False Doctrine of Infant Baptism

    Choice has nothing to do ~ initially speaking ~ with our salvation, either. That's another issue. Absolutely untrue. :) See above. They are acting in faith, bringing and dedicating their child ~ publically ~ to the Lord, and promising to bring the child up in the Lord's nurture and...
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    The False Doctrine of Infant Baptism

    The "argument from silence" ~ that there is nothing in Scripture stating (or implying) that infants are not to be baptized ~ is a good one... one of the best, actually. But, couple with the fact that in Scripture (Acts 2) we are told to be baptized, we and all our households, for the promise is...
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    The False Doctrine of Infant Baptism

    Of course not. This. like pretty much everything you see any disagreement or even angst over on this board, is neither damning nor salvific. Grace and peace to you.
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    Does anyone want to compare Old Testament Prophecy to Revelation?

    I understand; you’re certainly not the first and certainly will not be the last. I certainly believe the things in John’s visions do and will have very real manifestations, for sure. But the visions given to John are dreams, much like Joseph’s, Jacob’s, Pharoah’s, and Nebuchadnezzar’s, and...
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    Does anyone want to compare Old Testament Prophecy to Revelation?

    Well, I do agree that Scripture ~ Peter, there ~ is very clear. :) But even we speak of "elements" in the context of those things being in their basic, natural, unrefined state, about things "passing away" (Paul, in 2 Corinthians 5, says of we who have been born again of the Spirit, that we...
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    Does anyone want to compare Old Testament Prophecy to Revelation?

    Insofar as you go, here, Truth7t7, you and I are in agreement on all of this... except for the "dissolving of this existing earth by fire" (I'll return to that in a moment). But yes, there is a millennium, for sure, and there is a millennial reign by Christ. It has been and is now a present...