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  1. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    The person who becomes the beast-king of Revelation 13 for the last 42 months of the 7 year 70th week evolves through four previous stages. 1. beginning as the little horn person - leader over 10 EU leaders. 2. then as the prince that shall come into the middle east following the Gog/Magog...
  2. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Identifying who the person is who will become the Antichrist will indicate how close the world is to the beginning of the 7 year 70th week. If a person is not interested in the time of the end prophecies in the bible - then I agree it would be of no interest to them.
  3. Douggg

    The Rapture Cover-up

    No, that is not what the rapture/resurrection doctrine and futurism teaches. Daniel, for example, his body will be resurrected at the time of the rapture/resurrection. Daniel's soul is presently in heaven with the Lord. During the three days that Jesus's body lay dead, Jesus descended into...
  4. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    The rivers of living water in John 7:38 is referring to the Holy Spirit, that had not yet been given to believers in Jesus at that point. verse 39. John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the...
  5. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    What ? Why would you possibly think that ? It has nothing to do with the time when Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation act in 2Thessalonians2:4. In verse 4, Jesus stands on the Mt. of Olives and splits it in half. Zechariah 14 is at the end of the 7 years when Jesus...
  6. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    My younger brother in Christ (I am 75, you are 64, not dad to me) You are taking from the New Testament, after the Antichrist has become the beast, the last stage of his evolution. To be the Antichrist, the person must be anointed the King of Israel, thought-to-be messiah. You did not give...
  7. Douggg

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    Tim, copy and past the verses, when you make a statement. Satan is not any of the 7 heads. The seven mountains are where the woman, turned prostitute sits. It is a location, not kingdoms. The location is Rome. And the 7 kings in Revelation 17:10 are 7 sequential kings of the Roman...
  8. Douggg

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    John 1:1-3 is saying that God has always existed and has no beginning nor end, before anything was created. And Jesus being God was with God, and came forth from God to create all there is. "In the beginning was the Word" - is simply say that nothing existed but God. Jesus stated Who He...
  9. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    The living waters do not flow out of Jerusalem until after Jesus returns. The Dead Sea will be full of fish in that day.
  10. Douggg

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    Tim, Jesus is not a kingdom. And Jesus is not the 7th king of Revelation 17:10. The 7 heads in Revelation 17:10 are 7 kings, not kingdoms Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short...
  11. Douggg

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    Tim, copy and paste the verses of Revelation 13 you are referring to. The false prophet verses don't begin until Revelation 13:11. Tim, copy and paste what specific verses that say that Israel does not stay on earth during the 42 months. 42 months is not in Revelation 12. When Satan is...
  12. Douggg

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    Jesus is not a Kingdom. The 7 heads are 7 kings - not 7 kingdoms. Revelation 17:10 says 7 kings - not 7 kingdoms. Satan is not a head on the beast. And there is no 8th kingdom. The seven heads are 7 king - not 7 kingdoms.
  13. Douggg

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    Tim, Revelation 12, verses 1-5 are a historic vision of events taking place at the time of Jesus's birth. Verses 1-5 identify the woman in the rest of Revelation 12 as being Israel. Revelation 12, verses 6-17 are about the 7 year 70th week. Revelation 12:6, 1260 days being the first half...
  14. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Revelation 12:10 is future. Revelation 12:6 the 1260 days is the first half of the coming 7 year 70th week.
  15. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Zechariah 14:2 is right before Jesus returns.
  16. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    What specific verses ? What are the specific verses in the Tanach (old testament) that say the messiah will be a great politician ? What are the specific verses in the Tanach (old testament) that say the messiah will have military ability ?
  17. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    I wrote.... "The Jews believe that the messiah will be a great politician and have military ability, to fight the battles of God in defending Israel." Jesus is the true messiah. Was Jesus a great politician ? No. Did Jesus demonstrate military ability ? No. Differently, the person who...
  18. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then shall the LORD go...
  19. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    "have come" meaning that they were not believers in Jesus nor the gospel of salvation before then.
  20. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    No, you are just simply not understanding those Scriptures. From one end of heaven to the other, is the same language used in Deuteronomy 30:1-6, verse 4. Some of the Jews in Israel will flee right away to the mountains when the abomination of desolation is setup, Revelation 12:14. The ones...