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The bible does not put obedient works AFTER salvation but before, consider the order of Acts 2:38 or Mk 16:16 that put obedience BEFORE salvation. Paul in Rom 6:16 said you serve either one of two masters, you either serve: 1) sin unto death or 2) obedience unto righteosness I serve...

Diversion from the topic does not help your position. I can be the world's biggest heathen and do all kinds of evil works, but that does not change the fact that one cannot be saved without doing works. Consider the good works listed in Matthew 25 and what happens to those who do those good...

But you have backed nothing up with scripture, at least not accurately with scripture. Examples: (1) I explained that in 1 Cor 13 and Eph 4 Paul was speaking about hose gifts Christ gave and that those gifts would last till there was a unity/perfection of God's written revelation. You have...

"The truth" they had quit obeying was Christ's gospel truth. Christ said "And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations" Rev 2:26. The verb "keepeth" being in the present tense showing an ongoing, sustained action. So there is no way...

I'll repost my OP again for it has book, chapter and verses to back up my argument: It takes obedient works of belief, repentance, confession and submitting to water baptism in order to become a Christian, Jn 8:24; Lk 13:3,5; Mt 10:32,33; Mk 16:16. After becoming a Christian, there are good...

Note what Paul said to the Galatians in this passage..... They had quit obeying the truth, (Christ's gospel) by returning back to the OT law. Says as much in Gal 5:7 If the Christian quits his obedience he falls from grace, Gal 5:4 ......no works = no salvation.

God saves but God will save those that obediently obey His will and do good works, Heb 5:9 Eph 2:10. So for that reason James could say a man is justified by works. So God's requirement for the works means God causes works to save. Faith/belief is a work, [1 Thess 1:3, Jn 6:27-29] since...

Matt 25:31-46 lists some good works and the context plainly shows judgment will be based on whether a Christian did good works or not. Those that did good works to fellow Christians/church was the same as doing good works unto Christ. Those that denied, mistreated Christians/church was the...

Christ never said "do nothing and thou shalt be saved". There are obedient works Christ gave in order to become saved and pre-ordained good works to remain saved. It therefore is impossible to be saved without works.

Eph 2:10 God pre-ordained Christians to walk in good works. Since what God has pre-ordained cannot be changed, voided, ignored then how can a Christian remain saved and not do as God preordained? There cannot be such a thing as a 'deedless Christian'.

It takes obedient works of belief, repentance, confession and submitting to water baptism in order to become a Christian, Jn 8:24; Lk 13:3,5; Mt 10:32,33; Mk 16:16. After becoming a Christian, there are good works God has before ordained the Christian to walk in, Eph 2:10. One must be a...

The purpose of miracles was for revealing Go'ds word and confirmation of that word. So when the word had been completely revealed by the end of the first ventury, then the signs were no longer needed. As the analogy of signs as scaffolding which is used to construct a building but taken away...

I simply do not read in Rom 1-3 where Individuals are mentioned but groups/races Gentiles and Jews are the topic.

That is the consequence if man has no free will.

If this is true, then God is a sinner. If God preordained people to sin (as Hitler) and they have no choice in what God forces them to do then God is the one culapble and accountable for all the sins committed for God is actually the one that committed the sins. SInners cannot be held...

A group is made up of individuals but Paul is not talking about individuals, he is giving an essay on justification in Rom 1-3. Before the law of Moses, the Gentiles as a whole, as a group could not be completely justified without the blood of Christ. It was not just specific individuals that...

Proper exegesis requires one to know who is speaking, who is being spoken to and what is being said. In that context Jesus was speaking to His apostles. God said "Make yourself an ark of gopherwood" but everyone is not building an ark. Jesus does not decide for men which ones will be saved...

THe type of works God has made HIs gift of salvation condtional upon are obedient works, not works of the flesh. Belief, repentance, confession and baptism are obedience, not works of the flesh. As Peter said in Acts 10:35 "But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness...

Rom 3:9 "What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;" "All" refers back to "they" and "they " refer to the two groups Jew and Gentiles. Paul in this context is not talking about individuals but talking about...

You posted "Was not Esau Jacob's brother?—Have I not shown a greater partiality to the Israelites than I have to the Edomites?" So in the context, God was speaking to Israel (not the individuals Jacob and Esau for both had been dead for centuries) and God had partiality, more favor for Israel...