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    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    You must understand that with noah and lot which are Jesus examples of the rapture, there is not even the slightest hint of a 2 part trib/wrath. Plus you are misplacing the innumerable number. There is nothing there placing them in your timeframe. They had dirty robes and needed washing The...
  2. rebuilder 454

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    The only place Jesus descends in power and great Glory is in Revelation 19. which when he returns ,he ends the 7-year Great Tribulation. The ones that are the innumerable number came out of the Great Tribulation Jesus said after the Great Tribulation he would return in power. The whole 7...
  3. rebuilder 454

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    I agree in part because Jesus called the entire trib " great tribulation." Plus the innumerable number came out of the great trib. They had dirty robes. They are the foolish virgins left behind. So the innumerable number are in heaven right away. It all has to fit, otherwise things are just...
  4. rebuilder 454

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    In the parable of the wedding feast the Jews do not attend. The gentile church is the bride.( plus a small section of messianic Jews.) The Jews are the wife gone awhoring.( The wife nonetheless) In the virgin parable the bride is taken from earth directly to the wedding chamber. ( not saying...
  5. rebuilder 454

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    The great multitude CAME OUT OF the GT. Pretty much so except you are putting the wrath / GT dynamic in terms of days and maybe you are basing all that on "7th trump" or something? The return on white horses ends the "wrath"/7 yr gt, or whatever you call it nowadays. That is at the arrival of...
  6. rebuilder 454

    The KJV of the Holy Bible is based on what? A question for all the KJO folks.

    That is truly a nothing burger In no way does that have anything to do with any mistranslation. KJV is ok with "patterns/copies" No foul even remotely associated
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    THE 6TH TRUMPET ONLY REPRESENTS "GREAT TRIB" TIME

    the AC kicks off the trib, GT, 7 YR TRIB or what ever you want to call it.. He arrives and establishes the one world system, which requires the mark. Massive martyrdom right from the start of the GT...or trib, or whatever the modern terminology calls the 7 yr GT. Those that over emphacise the...
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    THE 6TH TRUMPET ONLY REPRESENTS "GREAT TRIB" TIME

    """So if you don't study the Book of Joel about the locusts, then you will miss a lot of what God is loosing them upon the earth for, and He reveals in Joel 2 that the locusts represent an army He sends upon the earth. For modern events of our day, the locusts represent the world controllers...
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    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Rev 7 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; If you keep reading we get context and chronology. ".....These...
  10. rebuilder 454

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. He only comes in power and great Glory after the wrath ( actually post 7 yr tribulation...
  11. rebuilder 454

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Where do you find 45 days of wrath? What your model seems to be is Jesus returns before ( whatever it is you want to call the 7 yr gt) ...is over. You seem to have Jesus returning during the "wrath".
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    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Noah returned AFTER the flood. I do not see where Jesus returns, and is on earth during the 7 yr GT ( trib then wrath as you would say) He returns in power after the 7 yr GT. Rev 19. No return prewrath. Rev 14 is 2 gatherings to heaven. No return to earth.
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    The KJV of the Holy Bible is based on what? A question for all the KJO folks.

    hmmmm, For some reason I got a smile on my face when I read this. A+ for style. Lol
  14. rebuilder 454

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Not sure, but appears we agree on this
  15. rebuilder 454

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Where in that chart is the rapture "before the flood/ Sodom destroyed?"
  16. rebuilder 454

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    Are you saying Jesus is on earth during what you call the wrath period?
  17. rebuilder 454

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    If I remember correctly we do agree on several things. I think we differ on the Matthew 24 ,( the after the tribulation coming in great power and Glory). I think you're trying to say that that's pre wrath or something like that,? However I don't think that's true, I think that Matthew 24...
  18. rebuilder 454

    The KJV of the Holy Bible is based on what? A question for all the KJO folks.

    Yes I have to believe my God is able to put into my hands His word. The TR.
  19. rebuilder 454

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Stop dodging and tell us the position of watchtower. Is Jesus Michael the archangel. So simple and you struggle with a nothingburger
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    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    ...as if they are not in here deceiving and lying. All my posts are spot on. That is what you can not refute.