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Really, Episkopos, it's not difficult.....what don't you get about God calling those things WHICH BE NOT AS THOUGH THEY ARE? What's not to get?.....Paul tells us there plain as day, what imputation in the context he is using it, means. You can try and dance the cha-cha around it all you want...

Amen. He died for our sins, to atone for them in our stead. Not that hard of a concept but Epi likes to confuse and convolute what is simple. God is not the author of confusion, but that comes from elsewhere.

Still no ears to hear I see. God hides things from the wise and learned but reveals them to little children.

Amen, and thanks brother. God bless all you who are contending for THE FAITH!

Nope. We are following apostolic doctrine....CLEARLY. And if you think it's a bad thing that "reformist ideologies" of such things as salvation by faith and imputed righteousness caught on, that is a dangerous place to be. In spite of the faults of some of those who led the reformation...

I can't keep up to parse everything that is being said and am only spot reading here and there, but here is something more to put on the table in case it helps. Below are some scriptural usages of the Greek word that is translated as “imputed” in case it helps @Episkopos with his understanding...

Call me whatever you want, farm team, little leaguer or whatever.....and you don't have to listen to anything I say....but I think you might consider whether you are making the same mistake that forms "denominations". Taking one 'revelation' and making a ministry out of that....instead of...

Greetings to you. I don't know much about Eastern Orthodoxy.....may I ask what do you think of the doctrine of needing to be born again (born of the spirit) which Jesus spoke about...? Is that preached in the Eastern Orthodox church......or do you believe that you are saved by being baptized...

The gospel is not a delusion. To call those basic but vital foundational tenets of the faith (the cornerstone no less!) the strong delusion is heresy. "Reformist theology"...."the failure of man-made reform systems"......oh you mean that theology and 'system' that actually freed souls from...

Yes. Sometimes "accepting" Jesus is just a manner of speaking...we know it is a work of God, much more than mere mental assent. Maybe all we did was to not harden our hearts and resist His Spirit when He came calling. (Problem is that nowadays some don't seem to realize it's just a manner of...

Amen...think Epi has trouble with things that "passeth understanding", and imputed righteousness is one of them. If we judge by outward things then the peace that passeth understanding wouldn't make sense either. Things of faith transcend facts on the ground. Walk by faith, not by sight.

Yes, think we did that when we came to faith, didn't we......which wasn't about us "accepting" Jesus, but was a work of God by His Spirit to give us faith that is not of our own. (Though still I believe we need to have faith to believe for "more".)

Nothing wrong with the free/gift or anything that God does....He does all things well.....the problem is always with the vessels He pours into. Yes, people certainly can be led or go astray...happening in spades these days. There is a need to grow, for sure. Not put down stakes and camp out...

Many toils and snares along the way....it can be a messy journey with the Lord rescuing and correcting us now and then along the way. We can come out stronger and wiser, after inadvertently having been in the enemy's camp "spying" out what he is up to.....we learn from it. Just as long as we...

Thank God we have this wonderful treasure in our jars of clay. Yes I think I do know what you mean. Jar of clay, feet of clay...I so often lament...the older I get the more I realize what a stumbling bumbling fool I am and have been in my life.

His sheep hear His voice. We are not to quench the SPIRIT. But test all things since there is also a deceiver running around. Since it can easily be turned into an idolatrous commotion it makes some people afraid of things of the Spirit....but this is why the Lord said if we ask for bread He...

No....just divine beings....spiritual beings....like the angels. But this is where some go wrong....we are not equal with God/Christ and never will be. Scripture says clearly there will no God after Him. But we will be and are like a bride/wife in union with and in submission to her Husband...

Well, it generally takes humility to accept a free gift/charity, doesn't it? Your broad sweeping assumption that all who accept the gift are somehow necessarily being arrogant and self-righteous is simply not just. Some are like that yes, but it is in their own heart to be like that and not...

Can't remember if I already commented on this post or not, but "gods" are divine beings....aka spiritual/heavenly. Angels are "gods" and "sons of God"......and Jesus said we shall be like the angels. Bible says all of creation waits for the sons of God to be revealed - that's us! But this is...

Loosed and freed from your debt = forgiveness. And crying can still be imputed/attributed to the baby whether it's crying or not. Pointed this out before but God calleth those things which be not as though they are. Check it out.....need ears to hear. But you'll keep on ignoring that passage...