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Agreed. Let's just clarify that this grace is available to all.... Some call it prevenient grace.... God makes the first move but man must reply. Where does Romans 4 speak of God's righteousnes? I don't see it. Romans 4 speaks of Abraham being made righteous through his faith BEFORE he did...

We shouldn't be confused. And I don't understand what you mean by God's Righteousness. There are some that believe that we're saved by the righteousness of God and not our own. They say that our righteousness is as filthy rags to God. This is incorrect. The NT teaches that God does indeed see...

Paul meant works as understood by Jews at that time. Works meant the works of the law. Paul stated works are necessary in every letter of his.... What he meant is that if we work without acknowledging God, our works are useless.

There was a flood - seems to have been world-wide. Yes. If not, we're all lost. God created the heavens and the earth...in the beginning. 6 days? I doubt it. I'd be willing to post some links or videos by John Lennox. But I doubt you'll want to see them. If your faith in God depends on the...

You sure do have some strange ideas, and yet it states Christian under your avatar. 1. Jesus did NOT come into existence as the 2nd Person of the Holy Trinity, or as He is also known. The Son. Jesus always existed. If you think Jesus was created,,,and you call yourself a CHRSTian, then you're...

I agree with your last sentence. Which is exactly what Paul was teaching against, and also Jesus of course. But I wish someone would explain to me what you all mean by God's righteousness. What does righteous mean to you? This should not be a difficult conversation but indeed it is.

Wow Windmill yes this is rather shocking!! So happy to learn of this. So do you think that those that don't believe as you do are somewhat dumb? I'm not a liberal. And I don't really know what you're speaking of. What do you mean that a Greek influence is not found in the bible? The Apostles...

I suppose we will all have to decide which parts of the bible are literal and which parts are put there to tell a fact, to explain something that is real but may not have happened exactly so. I trust the entire bible: The OT and the NT because it was inspired by God. I can't say the earth...

OK, I see. But I wouldn't recommend reading into scripture ideas that we ourselves have. The Genesis story tells exactly why the cherubim were stationed at the entrance to the Garden: Genesis 3:24 24So He drove the man out; and at the east of the garden of Eden He stationed the cherubim and...

I don't know what's so difficult. God gave us a way to save our souls. Jesus explained HOW we do this. Paul was writing to Jews that understood about THE LAW.... Seems pretty simple to me: A person believes in God And obeys His rules and regulations. It's up to US to obey....it's not up to...

A problem with Christianity these days.... It's as if we speak different languages.

Hi GracePeace, This is also for @Grailhunter because I'm having difficulty understanding what the two of you are discussing but will have to sign off till tomorrow. This is what I don't understand and am getting a little tired of hearing... :pensive: The idea that we don't live by our...

I hear about oneness churches but clearly you don't belong to one. Agreed. There are verses about how we are to have the same mind and show love for each other. Absolutely this is what Jesus wanted. We here on these forums need something to discuss... so we'll discuss, at times, the most...

LOL Agreed. And everyone on this thread probably knows what you just stated. I think that, yes, what we're all saying is how dumb this is. So we agree with you. I've been worrying lately about food. Will there be food in the future? I'm beginning to have my doubts. Yeah. Fiat money.

Thanks for the reply. I think we're on the same wavelength. I plan on being on this forum for a long time so I like getting to know other members that post frequently and seem to have my own interests on subject matter. Indeed love covers a multitude of sins and is, I believe, the basic...

Agreed on all. Being lost in this crazy world. Taking on your fears, facing them, and being grateful later in life that you did and that you succeeded. Good things to look back on. And how can anyone be so lost as Kamala is and all the woke persons. What do they think can come out of such sick...

What do you mean by CONSUMED? (the flaming sword CONSUMED their sacrifices). Weren't the two angels placed at the Garden entrance to keep A and E out lest they eat from the Tree of Life?

The JWs witness because they HAVE TO. It used to be that they were required to go door to door to hand out Awake and that other magz, can't think of the title right now. Whether or not they witness to save souls or to get more members is questionable. I know a woman that continually called me...

OK, you're right. Sorry. Here's my simple question: Are you one of those persons that believes that no matter what you do you'll be "covered by the blood"... or are you one of those persons that believes that we must BELIEVE and OBEY God in order to receive salvation at the end of our life...

BTW, the OT does NOT pretend to be literal historical fact... although it DOES contain historical facts. It is NOT a science book, although it does contain facts of science.