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"The real God"? There it is, you don't believe Jesus is GOD! The Father had to turn away from looking at His Son on the cross as He suffered. I would go as far to say that once Jesus was arrested the night before, no communication from His Father ( that he normally had all the time) was...

Jesus said He was the son of man but He was also the son of God. God became flesh and dwelt among us. So no mere man can do this. He became sin. Do you fathom what that entails? All the sins for all time present , past and future - trilions were cast upon Him. What does that mean? He had to know...

For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.’ Lev. 17:11 Actually His first blood sacrifice was with Adam and Eve. After they sinned and were naked, God sacrificed an...

I am thankful for Christ's blood sacrifice, am washed with it and born again. Faith is a gift. I am under grace, not the law. And He died so I can live eternally. I do not desire blood ... other than the sacrifice of animals. I like chicken, steak, bacon, a little turkey. They die so I can...

The main thrust of the Bible message is that God sent a Savior to die for our sins . It was His blood sacrifice that was required by the LAW. He fulfilled the Law for us. The Gospel summed up in one sentence is: Jesus died for our sins and rose on the third day. Therefore take heed to...

What then is your Christianity based on bro?

Gilligan got ship wrecked on that island, remember? He's just lost, cut him some slack. God is trying to teach him something. He can't figure out if God will get him off that island or if He only has His free will to author of his own destiny.

I can and have numerous times. But do YOU mean that after 33k posts you never quoted one single time that Jesus died for your sins or that God required a blood sacrifice for them?

We disagree ... no need to pursue this futile argument. Go your way. God Bless

I was just thinking to delete the thread since there is not much interest. I'll give it a week and then poof it's gone. Not many have the time to listen - I understand.

Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?" Romans 9:21 The answer to that question encompasses all knowledge, and cannot be fully ascertained by humans. Predestination is beyond our menarl capacity to fully grasp. I...

Predestination is plain in all the texts, He chose us and ordained us. And we reap the benefits we ask and we receive. Faith is a gift! Why are you avoiding the word that is used, PREDESTINED. Don't substitute the word to make yoir argument. You must deny the word to do so ... and you are. Many...

Christ blood covenant was a fulfillment of the Law. Craig isn't teaching legalism. He is just teaching how this blood covenant was foundational throughout scripture. Did you listen to the 48 min. audio? I am only interested in sharing something that I believe really seals the doctrine of OSAS...

I quoted the Pastor when I used the phrase, "scarlet thread". He used it figurarively to point to the blood covenants in the OT that lead to Christ's sacrifice. It flows through like a thread that is part of a fabric. Blood is red. This teaching has nothing to do with the Zarah and Pharez...

God is not everything! Jesus is #1, but not everything. If He was, then there wouldn't be two commandments: Love God AND Love your neighbor. My wife and daughter grandaughter and the rest of my family are not God. God isn't nature, He created it but is not part of it. It's beautiful too and I...

I shared many scriptures and pages of detailed interpretations on the topic and after all that, you tried to sum up what you label "a fatalist" perceives how God saves us and you are wrong. I don't ever refer to myself as a fatalist because not everything is set in stone as I pointed out very...

That is your perception of the matter, not mine.

I am not implying that we are robots. That is the argument you guys always use as if we are all totally programmed. That would imply no real intellegence or will or emotions, just a machine computing what it was programmed to compute. But take this into consideration, animals are programmed by...

Being a slave to God or a slave to Satan and sin doesn't sound like you are free. How can God's sovereignty allow and be in sync with 8 billion people who act freely and work it all into a perfect plan? It is God who causes all things to work together for good ... The Bible says He predestined...

You are talking to Christians on this forum. That is a violation of forum rules ... but then again, who can mess with Elijah? Save the lava lake and fire raining down for unbelievers.