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    The Church is Not the Source of Truth

    Hi Jiggy, I believe you mean Eusebius? Not Erasmus, right? Eusebius (260-340 A.D.) was trained at Origen's school in Alexandria and was the editor of two Greek manuscripts (mss.) named Vaticanus and Sinaiticus. These two mss. were discredited and abandoned by early Christians as being...
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    Sabbath

    [/color] But what about people that live in a cabin or village in Africa and actually have to kindle a fire to cook their food because it is raw and they don't have any refrigeration? Ok, so which day is the Seventh day? The Jewish Calendar was lost for awhile so how did they get back on...
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    Sin?

    I think I understand what you are saying. Lucifer never knew evil and had no example of it or no one to tempt him like Adam and Eve did. Adam and Eve were deriving their life and purity and righteousness from God who is life and purity and righteousness. But, in comes One who is evil and...
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    Sabbath

    Ok, Raeneske, I think I'm tracking with you. And you are tracking meticulously with the words of God in the OT. So, let me take it further for you. How was the Sabbath observed? Exodus_16: 5-23 tells us that there was no cooking of food or preparation of food. You can’t use the microwave, you...
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    The Narrow Way

    I'm sure you will agree Episkopos that through your writings I really don't know how far you take the "Body" and you can't possibly know how far I take the "individual". Without talking past one another, I and others are speaking of one particular valid subject and I grant that you are, too...
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    Great Awakening

    I agree, Jesus did say, "My Church". And that is still the case, today.
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    Great Awakening

    Jesus did not "leave" a Church. He is with the Church as it's AUTHORITY and PRESENCE and HEAD. To your analogy, that would make the RCC the "drug lord" of a world-wide cartel. Joh_14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. Heb_13:5 Let your conversation be without...
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    The Narrow Way

    If we discern Christ and His Life flowing through a person, then surely that is what is most important; not the many things we perceive to be wrong with them. His ways of dealing with us and exposing our flesh are perfect and right for us, and how He deals with us will often not be how He will...
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    The Church is Not the Source of Truth

    Thank you for paying attention, dragonfly. Your elucidation is appreciated. If the Head is not present then the discerning of the Body results in a discernment of death. How do we discern a body in the physical? We see, hear, touch and sometimes smell and it is exactly the same in the...
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    Hurricane Sandy

    May the Lord bless and keep you and all the residents of Philly.
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    The importance of works.

    I am agreeing.
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    Sabbath

    So, Raeneske, how do you "Keep the Sabbath" so that you do not join the "wicked" and are put to death. I assume you are implying "end up in hell".
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    The Church is Not the Source of Truth

    True, true, true. Management has a BIG Jesus and the laity have a little Jesus.
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    The importance of works.

    Well, I don't know Kepha, maybe you should put me back on ignore. You are not making any sense, now.
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    The importance of works.

    But, Kepha, you do acknowledge that the Bible is a not a religious rule book where we then commence to check off all these things that you have listed. Correct? But, the Christian, must be led of the Spirit. This keeps us from judging one another with a clipboard and pen, questioning others...
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    God Has Called Us To Be The Church Outside Of Church

    Ok, let's try this. Let's proclaim the obvious, that Jesus Christ is the Authority over His Church. Now, how about you and me gather around that? I can do that, can you? I mean that is pretty much Peter's confession. Peter is simply saying what every true believer has confessed in their heart...
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    Mark 16:9

    Wasn't the Jewish calendar lost for a time? I thought I read about that. So, no one knows if Friday today is Friday 2,000 years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_years_(Jewish_calendar)
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    The importance of works.

    If someone would be so kind to copy my message to Kepha (below) into their post so Kepha can see my response to his post, I would really appreciate it. Kepha has me on ignore so he cannot see my posts. Kepha, I am actually very happy you are here. I hope you stay. I had really not had the...
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    The importance of works.

    Amen to that, Sabitarian.