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The Church doesn't represent God as a tyrant, that would be the UR! God is serious about giving up His Son to such cruelty and man ignoring it.

Although I strongly disagree with your perception of Scripture, I did enjoy having conversation with a gentleman. That is rare and I will take to note your self control, and will look forward to having conversation on other subjects in the future.

Throughout the past 20 centuries the UR has kept bringing back this heresy, and time after time the Church has voted it out. It's time for the UR to put the Scripture where their mouth is, but wait, they can't do that!

Don't you think it's time for the UR to come up with the Scripture that proves the doomed are let of the Lake of Fire? The Scripture plainly places them in, so where is the Scripture that shows they get out? Until you can do that, I'll stick with sound doctrine, not this wishful thinking!

Oh, yea! When all else fails go to plan "B" spiritualize everything to get out!

God will save anyone who wants to be saved. Rom. 10:13 "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." The problem is, and what the UR will not admit is that some men refuse to be saved for whatever reasons. God can't save anyone against their will, neither does He want...

The UR states that the "everlasting" translates to an "age" that comes to an end. The translation plainly states that "everlasting" referring to an "age" can be translated as an age coming to an end, or an age into infinity, depending on the context. We can go to the Greek to confirm this if...

So if you believe that God has placed in His Word that He will lift that Judgment on man, then present your Scripture for it and let's see if it holds water. The title "damnationist" is not offensive to me, i think it's silly!

Steven likes to call us who oppose the UR, "the damnationists." He accusing us of wanting the condemned of God to be sentenced. But that's not true! We want what God wants, and His desire is "that all men come to the knowledge of the truth." As we see in Scripture, all men will not accept that...

Steven, are you angry with God that He has declared judgement on man, and you disagree with that judgement?

The difference in the OT times and the New is the amount of knowledge given to man. That knowledge of God came over time, ever progressing. God knew man would fall and the only answer to man's problem would be a price that fallen man could not pay. The sin debt of man had to be paid, a Holy God...

I don't know where you guys come from! But I do know that you all completely ignore the Word of God for an agenda! In Matt. 7:13-14 Jesus plainly tells us that the majority of mankind is not going to make it to heaven. "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the...

Man must learn that the Holy Bible is God's written Word. It doesn't matter what man thinks, what matters is what God said in His Word. Man dooms himself, God doesn't do it. God has plainly provided a way of hope for man, a way that man has hope and joy even if his world is falling apart around...

"The draw of all men" is the hearing of the Gospel, it draws man and demands a response, some will accept some will reject. So don't take Scripture out of context implying that God will save all men, that's just ignorance, Steven.

I wish it were true also, Steven. But we don't have the authority to teach something from God's Word that has no foundation. The UR teaches this stuff as a fact, it is not a fact but wishful thinking.

The crime is shouting from the rooftops that the Wrath of God on unbelievers is not permanent, but that man will at some point be released from this wrath and brought back into fellowship with God. Not one single thought of this exists in the Scripture, although that doesn't stop the UR from...

I can't see how it's possible for man to read the Scripture and not see the Love and yet the Wrath that God has promised unbelieving man. It can only be one thing, some have ignored, just don't believe God when He says, 2 Thes. 1:7-9 "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord...

Then you have no excuse, you know as well as I, God gave His Son as the only way out of this mess mankind has created for himself. "For God so loved the world ....." He also makes it perfectly clear, if man rejects that way out, His wrath is unquenchable.

Today Christ wants to be your Saviour, or tomorrow He will be your Judge! You know as well as I what He said about Hell and the Lake of Fire, if you want ignore that, it's between you and Him. Don't drag me into it.

I suppose you would have to reason that for yourself. One good example of judging another is when Job's 3 friends judged him by what God allowed to happen. They claimed that Job was a hypocrite with God, he got what he deserved, etc, etc. But they had no idea of what God was doing in the life...