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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Huh? Show me where I said being filled with the Holy Spirit is bodily resurrection?! Else, you are lying.
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Very unlikely. I did not deny that the Holy Spirit (living water) did go to the Old Testament! Zec 14:8-9 (8) And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Yes it does! Not at all. It's you who are denying the Scripture. You just do not get it on what Revelation 20:4-6 actually talks about. Those filled with the living Water have the first resurrection in Christ.. after Christ has glorified. :-) John 7:38-39 "He that believeth on me, as the...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    I think I have explained clearly that the mark of the beast HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SHOPPING FOR FOOD or THINGS. The mark of the beast is SPIRITUAL MARK signify being owned by Satan as long as they are buying and selling the false doctrine of the false prophets and christs that are now running...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Oh yeah...if you have spiritual discerned. :-) I disagree, but its okay if you don't fully understand the nature and purpose of "THEE" mark of the beast on people. The 42-month period is not when the mark of the beast was created. The mark has existed for some time, but in the end times...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    So...and? BTW, do you have a problem answering the following question? Really? Okay, tell me what do you believe the mark is? A physical mark or a spiritual mark?
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Really? Okay, tell me what do you believe the mark is? A physical mark or a spiritual mark? I am a pure Historic Amillennialist. I am against ANY Preterist doctrines.
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    I understand and know where you come from on this. The problem is the mark of the beast is not "end-time phenomenon. The mark of the beast has been since Cain. To receive a mark simple illustrate a spiritual branding or etching upon as a sign of ownership by Satan. For example, as you name is...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    I shared Scripture that details how saints were beheaded for their witness during the Great Commission, which spans from Pentecost to the Second Coming, represented by a thousand years. Where is your biblical evidence with Scripture supporting your definition of martyrs in your concept of a...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Rev 20:4-5 (4) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their...
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    HELLUCINATIONS

    Say, do you both understand exactly who are the 24 elders? Really?
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    What are you implying here? Did your think Jesus was a witch who calling up the spirit of Moses and Elijah? Poorly comparison on your part.
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Listen... in Matthew 17:9 about Moses and Elijah...appeared and spoke with Jesus Christ at the Mount of Transfiguration. Peter, James and John saw them. What were their bodies like? Was it "temporary" before Christ went to the Cross? Or are you going to deny this altogether by saying it's just...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    (Continued from previous post) But here is the truth of the matter. We should understand that everything in this Revelations chapter 20 is going along in a logical chronological progression. Christ, The Messenger of the Covenant, comes down from heaven with this Key (Christ is the one with the...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Revelation 20:4 "And I saw thrones, and they set upon them, and judgment was given unto them. And I saw the souls of them which were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the Word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither has received his mark upon their...
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    Huh? You are saying that we, amills have been taught by men that "being born again of the Holy Spirit is the first "bodily" resurrection of the dead" as is shown in Revelation 20:4-6? I think you are babbling and confused because that was not what "I" teach. I have been teaching the false...
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    You don't get it. You may ask me when I was in the grave and when I was resurrected. It is when Christ was in the grave and when He was resurrected! As Christians, we died WITH HIM, were buried WITH HIM, and were raised up WITH HIM free from our sins! Selah! This is the corerstone of...
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    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    Well, DUH! This is what the first resurrection is about! The spirit under the body of death have been renewed, regenerated, and made alive in Christ. Christ was not talking about change with our fleshy bodies the moment when we were born again. The first resurrection is NOT a body...
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    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Misapply of scripture and reading into scripture out of context.