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The Problems With End Times Prophecy

Your multiple attempts to appeal to past atrocities do nothing to weaken the case that morals are not absolutes that come from a deity as opposed to being something that naturally arises due to the fact that human peers coexist. This is not hard, so I will repeat the point once again. Because...

No mention of evolution of species, just the ever changing beliefs of what is and is not right as depicted on our collective moral scorecards.

The buck rests with those that have decision making influence and authority. Those in authority tend to change over time. No, I think the authority CAN be those that have decision making influence and authority. What you attempt to minimize, my values that hold that it is wrong to bring about...

Wow, let's break this down further. Things I find abhorrent are not allowed in my house. Things my neighbors and I find abhorrent are not permitted in our neighborhood. Things our city citizens find abhorrent are not permitted in our city. Together we've developed a moral code that is at...

Seems we've got some eschatology to unpack as well as some prophetic details to examine.

No who is being invoked and no appeal to authority is being made. In order to progress the conversation I'm asking you to define what you mean when you say right so that when we discuss the term, we are talking about the same thing, otherwise we'll talk past each other both thinking the other is...

Yes, you've caught what I was throwing! Individuals and the societies they are a part of determine what is behaviors are acceptable. Those acceptable behaviors have proven to be dynamic thus proving that the moral behavior humans are willing to accept are subjective.

Isn't government "a thing?" Wrong. Governments can. Laws for people's supposed well-being and for what people can and cannot do are made by people. No need for any agency that is not of this world is required.

The idea that we have conscience is generally agreed upon and I'll put forth no argument against it existing. Is it always right? That's were we get a little iffy. As far as scripture is concerned what is prescribed therein is a might makes right philosophy where God = might.

A real exploratory inquiry would be how could we best determine what is right and moral in a given situation. Religions and philosophies have been trying to come up with answers for 1000's of years. I wonder what we would come up with? In religion, right is basically defined as that which is in...

You realize that what you are basically saying is that if I don't know there to be be an objective moral standard that is "transcendent", then I am not allow to have a moral standard of my own that I hold myself to and judge others by. That logic makes no sense. In my view, it SHOULD have been...

Tom, please objectively define wrong outside of saying it's contrary to the andates of the authority. The facts that the concepts exist doesn't mean they are objective. Why is that hard to swallow? Emphatically YES! Wrong again. I can say that their actions were wrong in my estimation as from...

Articles like this that place a mirror to the world's face goes to show that the mantra that "All Lives Matter" is not the reality we live in. In striving to reach the status of having all lives matter and have there be liberty and justice for all, we'd do well to recognize where the shortfalls...

Your "take" is the problem here, not what I said. It's a fact that as concepts, right and wrong exist. It's also a fact that many things that are considered as either right or as wrong depends on who is answering the question of whether a thing is right or wrong. That proves the subjectivity...

You basically answered your own inquiry. In my opinion, which is influenced by values I structure my subjective morals to it was totally despicable and wrong. The fact that history happened as it did backs the claim that morals are subjective. What trumped the 3rd Reich's tyranny was the fact...

To an oppressor, being stripped of the power to oppress is oppression.

In my current understanding, no moral absolutes exist and the idea of OBJECTIVE righteousness is not a reality. Right and wrong are subjective, entirely. Your above example of history proves that fact. Practicing racists throughout history (whites to blacks, Jews to Samaritans, Nazis to Jews...

The moral arbiters, be it a collective group, or those with influence within a group, construct the group's moral framework. Whatever they develop becomes the moral law for their group and time. Morals are virtually always subject to some POV which makes them entirely subjective.

Thanks for starting a thought provoking thread. I happen to fall into the camp that asserts that morals are wholly subjective. To go a step further, I'd point out that both right and wrong are terms humans derived to describe concepts that are either socially acceptable and in accordance to the...